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Medical school, dental school, or law school?

It just seems that a lot of people who want to do more schooling (beyond a Bachelors) seem to consider a wide variety of options in terms of what they want to study. Even though there is no relation in the professions, I found a lot of law students who considered medicine and the other way around on med student forums.

So, what made you decide to go with Psychology?
 
Medical school, dental school, or law school?

It just seems that a lot of people who want to do more schooling (beyond a Bachelors) seem to consider a wide variety of options in terms of what they want to study. Even though there is no relation in the professions, I found a lot of law students who considered medicine and the other way around on med student forums.

So, what made you decide to go with Psychology?

It's a strange road. I think there is a relation in the professions, especially with perceived (real or not) prestige and potential incomes.

I think there are financial and personal considerations. If you swing over to the medical forums, you can see students lamenting the lowering salaries for doctors. I'm not sorry to have taken a career path that left me with exactly $0.00 debt, even if my salary is lower than physicians. When I was thinking about medical school, really the only thing that interested me was working forever with doctors without borders, which doesn't seem to interact great with medical school debt. I'm very happy to spend all day doing exactly the things I love doing, and getting decent pay for it.

Law school is deeply misunderstood by most undergrads, I think (very similar issues to our profession, actually).
 
It's a strange road. I think there is a relation in the professions, especially with perceived (real or not) prestige and potential incomes.

I think there are financial and personal considerations. If you swing over to the medical forums, you can see students lamenting the lowering salaries for doctors. I'm not sorry to have taken a career path that left me with exactly $0.00 debt, even if my salary is lower than physicians. When I was thinking about medical school, really the only thing that interested me was working forever with doctors without borders, which doesn't seem to interact great with medical school debt. I'm very happy to spend all day doing exactly the things I love doing, and getting decent pay for it.

Law school is deeply misunderstood by most undergrads, I think (very similar issues to our profession, actually).

Thanks for your perspective.

How is law schol misunderstood?
 
Thanks for your perspective.

How is law schol misunderstood?

A lot of folks seem to think it's a path to an assured job at $200k right out of school, and don't understand law school rankings, student rankings, job market dynamics, etc., work. There are lots of good jobs for law school grads, but the thing people often seem to have in mind when they think of lawyering is far from the reality.
 
A lot of folks seem to think it's a path to an assured job at $200k right out of school, and don't understand law school rankings, student rankings, job market dynamics, etc., work. There are lots of good jobs for law school grads, but the thing people often seem to have in mind when they think of lawyering is far from the reality.

Very true. They also have little grasp on disparities between specialty areas and between average and outliers. I have friends who are lawyers. Most push paperwork all day for $60-70k/yr. The only area currently hiring AVERAGE lawyers is suing people for collections and bankruptcy law. Divorce is pretty good too. Try getting a job in the area you are passionate about and it can be very unlikely or poor pay (DA office, environmental law, etc).
 
Very true. They also have little grasp on disparities between specialty areas and between average and outliers. I have friends who are lawyers. Most push paperwork all day for $60-70k/yr. The only area currently hiring AVERAGE lawyers is suing people for collections and bankruptcy law. Divorce is pretty good too. Try getting a job in the area you are passionate about and it can be very unlikely or poor pay (DA office, environmental law, etc).

There are a lot of fresh law grads that are doing minimum wage type work.. There are a lot working for free in hopes of getting something better. People at the top of their classes are doing ok, but I think they are the minority. The average law grad has a TON of debt too.

In a way, a comparison can be made between the educational business of psychology and law. There are way too many lawyers being turned out from less than stellar schools, which, of course, is saturating the market. This is something that I don't believe is true for doctors. It costs so much to train them that slots/training ends up costing more than tuition, even at steep tuition prices (something that is not true for law school).


I considered med school. After volunteering at hospitals I decided it wasn't for me. I considered being a psychiatrist, but I have some serious moral disputes with the way medications are being dished out without exploring any other possibilities. I also love the brain/human behavior, and I think psychology encompasses the most when it comes to those areas of interest.
 
I wish I was into law a bit more (I was at one time) If it payed more, maybe.

But based on the rules of some of the schools, I could actually get in!! lol

I wish it was that easy with Psychology.
 
I considered med school. After volunteering at hospitals I decided it wasn't for me.

Pretty much my story as well. I worked in a hospital for a couple years in addition to shadowing, and after those experiences, I just decided that medicine wasn't really my cup of tea. Looking back on things now, I think I still could've been happy with it had I stuck with that route, but I definitely enjoy what I do day to day now more than I imagine I would've enjoyed being a physician.
 
Medical school, dental school, or law school?

It just seems that a lot of people who want to do more schooling (beyond a Bachelors) seem to consider a wide variety of options in terms of what they want to study. Even though there is no relation in the professions, I found a lot of law students who considered medicine and the other way around on med student forums.

I wouldn't say there's no relation among those professions. All fit nicely within the scope of classic middle class values. What's hoped for is high renumeration for specialized knowledge in an area of public service (vs something like finance or accounting. Though would guess dentistry probably draws more people who like the bucks).

And while I agree with those in the nontrad forum who feel that people from privileged backgrounds are much better placed to secure places in those programs, because entry to these professions is regulated, more-or-less transparent, and can (theoretically) be achieved through merit, it's a mechanism of social mobility for people who don't have the cultural capital required to gain a foothold in other sectors (e.g., 1st & 2nd-generation immigrants).

I like psych because I always have. Everything about it, the science and the art. I did my first project on the brain in second grade, read William James for fun in high school, & later, academic journals for interest, no matter what else I was doing in life. I was in no shape to pursue it formally my first go-round at university, but life circumstances have led to, I guess, an opportunity to try again.

The other profession I have been strongly considering is PT, which appeals to me for many reasons. (Among them is that PT offers the possibility of helping people achieve visible outcomes, & more flexibility & autonomy in terms of lifestyle than psychology can, given the latter's hierarchical training & licensing restrictions, & its location in the wider health economy). Recent developments in my own health are causing me to think again about the kind of longevity I could enjoy in this field, though. Successful clinical/counselling psychologists are able to practice in relative comfort into their older years.
 
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I could have gone top tier law or MBA (those of us that got into funded top tier clinical/counseling programs can easily meet the GPA and standardized testing medians for any top tier program). However, I was more interested in psychology at the time and getting funding from a reputable program sealed the deal for me. I'm pretty happy with my decision, although it does help to split bills/housing with a partner so I never fully suffered "grad school poverty." These days people work well into their 60's & 70's so I may opt for a second career. I may still get an MBA in the future or do some business/consulting work on the side to supplement my income. I also don't yet have children to support so I don't have the pressure to make more money.

My quality of life is decent for a postdoc. My only complaint is that i work pretty long hours and don't have more than 5 minute breaks every few hours. I see patients back to back and have many team meetings/supervision so I have to be "on" pretty much all the time. I'm pretty sure I would have the same level of intensity/pressure as a lawyer or MBA at a consulting firm. Being early career is tough in every profession.
 
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I could have gone top tier law or MBA (those of us that got into funded top tier clinical/counseling programs can easily meet the GPA and standardized testing medians for any top tier program). However, I was more interested in psychology at the time and getting funding from a reputable program sealed the deal for me. I'm pretty happy with my decision, although it does help to split bills/housing with a partner so I never fully suffered "grad school poverty." These days people work well into their 60's & 70's so I may opt for a second career. I may still get an MBA in the future or do some business/consulting work on the side to supplement my income. I also don't yet have children to support so I don't have the pressure to make more money.

My quality of life is decent for a postdoc. My only complaint is that i work pretty long hours and don't have more than 5 minute breaks every few hours. I see patients back to back and have many team meetings/supervision so I have to be "on" pretty much all the time. I'm pretty sure I would have the same level of intensity/pressure as a lawyer or MBA at a consulting firm. Being early career is tough in every profession.

No 1hr lunches? lol
 
No 1hr lunches? lol

Maybe once you are licensed and have a VA job 🙂

When you are on postdoc, you have to somehow magically fit in 10 hours of training/supervision into your schedule along with a full caseload.
 
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