Applied to the 6 that I met the prereq's for (didn't want to take oddball things like nutrition) and were in locations where I would be willing to live. Accepted at 4, declined 1 interview, rejected at 1. Major was Women's Studies. I'm non-trad, went back and took prereq's.
How many schools did YOU apply to?
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Applied to 8, accepted to 3, waitlisted at 1, rejected to 2, declined interviews to 2.
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Applied to 4. Rejected by 2 (including my IS) and accepted by 2.
I'm a non trad (Psychology/Political Science major) so I applied to schools based on what the pre-reqs were (since I've completed on a part time basis while working full time) and the amount of OOS they accepted.
Originally I was going to apply to more schools but financially it didn't make sense for me.
I'm a non trad (Psychology/Political Science major) so I applied to schools based on what the pre-reqs were (since I've completed on a part time basis while working full time) and the amount of OOS they accepted.
Originally I was going to apply to more schools but financially it didn't make sense for me.
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That's how I basically picked my 5. I didn't take genetics or animal nutrition, so that cut a bunch right there.
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First time applicant. I applied to 7 schools - I crossed out schools that had wacky pre-req's I didn't want to or couldn't take (no animal nutrition courses in NYC that I know of), those that took very few OOS students, and those that were in places my husband and I didn't want to live in. I'm a History major. I was accepted to my IS school first and promptly withdrew all my other applications. 🙂
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To echo what others have said, I think it's a good idea to: eliminate the schools that would require you to take expensive/hard-to-find/unnecessary pre-reqs (unless you want to take them); those that don't accept the kinda of test scores you have (e.g. the GRE was changed a few years ago and some schools will not accept the older version, even if technically the scores haven't 'expired' yet); and OOS schools that don't accept many OOS students.
I looked at my budget and capped my number at 7 the first cycle, 8 the 2nd. I eliminated several based on the above and then made pro/con lists to narrow down the rest. I applied to 7 last time and got accepted to 1; 8 this time and got 3 acceptances, 3 interviews (that I declined), and 2 rejections.
I looked at my budget and capped my number at 7 the first cycle, 8 the 2nd. I eliminated several based on the above and then made pro/con lists to narrow down the rest. I applied to 7 last time and got accepted to 1; 8 this time and got 3 acceptances, 3 interviews (that I declined), and 2 rejections.
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Applied to 6: waitlisted at 3, rejected at 3. This was my first and (hopefully will be) only cycle.
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out of curiosity, why did you apply again then?
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First cycle applied to 3, rejected from all. Second cycle applied to 9, rejected from 5, interviews at 4-- ended up with 3 acceptances and 1 waitlist. I basically narrowed down by schools that didn't need certain prerequisites (ie: nutrition), location, and programs that are geared toward my interests. In retrospect I probably should have paid more attention to the weight placed on last 45 units vs. GRE vs. sGPA as well.
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I agree with not applying to an over-kill number of schools, but this application process is such a crap shoot that its hard not too apply to several, just in case. I was accepted to several OOS reach schools and rejected right off the bat at my IS, where my stats/experiences were much higher than the average stats they accept. So while, I agree with really doing research, in the end, that research could mean nothing due to how random the selection process is. I hate that I had to spend so much money on applying, but INCREDIBLY happy that I decided to apply to more than just my IS,where based on their info, I should have been accepted with flying colors. There really is no way to know for sure based on school's stats, you never know where someone will see your potential.
Edited: I would agree that the most important school stat to look at is number of OOS accepted, if you are applying OOS. No reason to apply to those OOS schools with 1-2 spots, unless you are absolutely perfect!
Edited: I would agree that the most important school stat to look at is number of OOS accepted, if you are applying OOS. No reason to apply to those OOS schools with 1-2 spots, unless you are absolutely perfect!
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I applied to 5 schools this cycle and was rejected by them all. I'm still trying to figure out how many I want to apply to this next cycle. I've improved my application a lot and I think these improvements will put me in a really good place for my in state. That makes me think that if i'm going to get accepted anywhere, it'll be at my IS. I know this isn't always true, but my chances are best there. So I'm thinking about only applying to my IS and my dream school for this cycle... seems kindof scary to limit my options but at the same time it will be much cheaper to apply and those are the only two schools I really want to go to anyway.
I really want to limit my debt as much as possible which makes my instate the best choice. Everywhere else is just too expensive. I'll still be applying to my dream school though because it's not super expensive (comparatively) and that's the only place OOS I'd go anyway. Also, I'm ok with a third cycle so if this train of thought leaves me rejected again it won't be so bad.
To me, there are worse things than being rejected and applying again next year, and that is being saddled with a huge amount of debt.
I really want to limit my debt as much as possible which makes my instate the best choice. Everywhere else is just too expensive. I'll still be applying to my dream school though because it's not super expensive (comparatively) and that's the only place OOS I'd go anyway. Also, I'm ok with a third cycle so if this train of thought leaves me rejected again it won't be so bad.
To me, there are worse things than being rejected and applying again next year, and that is being saddled with a huge amount of debt.
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I applied to 7 schools (where I could apply based on my pre-reqs). I'm a career-changer and took the pre-requisite courses after completing undergrad in systems engineering.
Accepted at 4, declined interviews at 2, rejected from 1.
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AND to flip that around, you never know what you'll discover you see in a school. I applied to the schools I did (with the exception of UGA) based on the somewhat standard premise of, "hm, this place looks interesting and they take a decent number of OOS people, maybe I'll get in there." If I got in anywhere this cycle I knew I was going to vet school, but I never for a moment thought I would willingly decline at Texas A&M to go elsewhere, but KSU won me over.
Also, I didn't realize animal nutrition was apparently that uncommon of a course; seems like a lot of you didn't take it.
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👍 I only applied to Mizzou b/c large OOS group, IS tuition possible, and I had all the prereqs. It was only high on my list because of cost and then I visited and basically loved it.
I applied to 6 (2 acceptances, 3 waitlists, 1 interview decline) that I had prereqs for and would attend based on tuition/location. Sometimes I feel like it was too many because I obviously was only going to be able to attend one, but there's no way to know which that one is going to be that will accept you. Mostly those feelings just come from the cost of applying. There's definitely a balance between cost of applying and giving yourself more chances.
If you have one area of GPA, GRE, or experience much stronger than the others, know that, research schools, and apply smart, not broadly.
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I applied to 3, accepted at 1 (my IS) and waitlisted at the other 2.
When deciding on where to apply I first looked at all the pre-reqs at the different schools and determined which schools I had them for (or would by the end of this spring). After that I looked up the cost of attendance (tuition, living cost, etc) for each school and ranked them based off that. Finally, I looked at the schools and determined whether or not I would attend if accepted at that school. That's what narrowed mine down to three.
I don't think I can stress the last criterion enough, do not apply to the school if you won't attend if accepted. If that's the only school you get accepted to, you don't want to have to make the choice as to whether to accept at a school with a tuition you're uncomfortable paying, a location you don't want to be in, etc. or give up an acceptance to try again the next year.
When deciding on where to apply I first looked at all the pre-reqs at the different schools and determined which schools I had them for (or would by the end of this spring). After that I looked up the cost of attendance (tuition, living cost, etc) for each school and ranked them based off that. Finally, I looked at the schools and determined whether or not I would attend if accepted at that school. That's what narrowed mine down to three.
I don't think I can stress the last criterion enough, do not apply to the school if you won't attend if accepted. If that's the only school you get accepted to, you don't want to have to make the choice as to whether to accept at a school with a tuition you're uncomfortable paying, a location you don't want to be in, etc. or give up an acceptance to try again the next year.
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1 cycle, applied to 3: waitlisted to 2 (including a contract state, so basically IS) and accepted to 1
I second, or third whatever, not applying to schools that you won't go to. My home state of SC doesn't have a vet school, but has contracts with UGA, Mississippi and Tuskegee. I only applied to UGA and 2 OOS schools b/c I was moving with my husband, who would need to work. Anyone who has been to Mississippi or Tuskegee knows that there isn't much nearby. As it is now my husband drives 2 hours a day to and from work. Anything more that that would have been unreasonable to us and the locations of those 2 schools made that a real possibility. Thus it wasn't worth applying, since I wouldn't have wanted to/been able to attend.
The OOS schools I applied to 1-I met the pre req's for without taking classes much beyond my degree requirements and 2-were located either in or near a city (LSU, VMRCVM) and 3- were in the southeastern US (another husband requirement)
Also, I think Tuskegee has a phys ed pre-req, which irritated me. I didn't have the money to be paying a university to take yoga or tennis, much less the time.
Oh and I was a Classics and Bio major, who never took animal nutrition.
I second, or third whatever, not applying to schools that you won't go to. My home state of SC doesn't have a vet school, but has contracts with UGA, Mississippi and Tuskegee. I only applied to UGA and 2 OOS schools b/c I was moving with my husband, who would need to work. Anyone who has been to Mississippi or Tuskegee knows that there isn't much nearby. As it is now my husband drives 2 hours a day to and from work. Anything more that that would have been unreasonable to us and the locations of those 2 schools made that a real possibility. Thus it wasn't worth applying, since I wouldn't have wanted to/been able to attend.
The OOS schools I applied to 1-I met the pre req's for without taking classes much beyond my degree requirements and 2-were located either in or near a city (LSU, VMRCVM) and 3- were in the southeastern US (another husband requirement)
Also, I think Tuskegee has a phys ed pre-req, which irritated me. I didn't have the money to be paying a university to take yoga or tennis, much less the time.
Oh and I was a Classics and Bio major, who never took animal nutrition.
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1st cycle: 1 Same as another post, I'm a Canadian student, and as such, we're only allowed to apply to schools in which we meet residency requirements. I only have ever lived in one province so I was restricted.
2nd cycle: 4 - 1 being my domestic school and 3 being in the UK/Ireland. So far, I've been accepted at 1, rejected at 1 and waiting to hear from 2.
I agree with everyone else - just make sure you meet pre-reqs and it won't matter what your major is (mine was Animal Biology). I couldn't apply to any US schools because the ones I was looking at required English Lit and I wasn't willing to take that course.
I also agree that only apply to schools where you have the pre-reqs, are willing to move to and are willing/able to take on the debt.
2nd cycle: 4 - 1 being my domestic school and 3 being in the UK/Ireland. So far, I've been accepted at 1, rejected at 1 and waiting to hear from 2.
I agree with everyone else - just make sure you meet pre-reqs and it won't matter what your major is (mine was Animal Biology). I couldn't apply to any US schools because the ones I was looking at required English Lit and I wasn't willing to take that course.
I also agree that only apply to schools where you have the pre-reqs, are willing to move to and are willing/able to take on the debt.
It's a refreshing spin to hear many others tell their choices beyond a financial spreadsheet that isn't necessarily a 1 size fits all. I agree with not applying to a school you will not attend regardless of the outcome. While that was my initial perspective, I didn't want to slam the door on a possible opportunity (and perhaps the only opportunity) until having full disclosure and a conclusive view of assumptions. In this case, it took correspondence, the interview, and tour to realize my IS wasn't for me. Had that been my only option, I believe I would have tried again next cycle and avoided my IS altogether.
That's not to say my IS isn't adored by others on this forum.
That's not to say my IS isn't adored by others on this forum.
1 cycle: applied to 7, rejected by 5, waitlisted by 1, and accepted by 1 🙂
I originally had a list of 6 schools, but something didn't feel right, so I added a 7th. I'm lucky I did, because it was the school I was ultimately accepted to!
I originally had a list of 6 schools, but something didn't feel right, so I added a 7th. I'm lucky I did, because it was the school I was ultimately accepted to!
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This past cycle I only applied to 1 and got waitlisted. This cycle I'll apply to 6-7, all chosen based on cost of attendance, proximity to my boyfriend (he's going to grad school in NYC), and where I would actually want to live and attend school.
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My applications coincided with me having huge second thoughts about vet med, so when I got into one (ridiculously expensive OOS school), I declined and went into a PhD program instead. Grad school reaffirmed that vet med was the right path for me, so I re-applied.
My undergrad required that we take 2 phys ed classes. If you failed the required swim test, swimming had to be one of those classes. There was a wide range of classes to choose from (massage and wilderness survival training!), but yeah...waste of money.
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My undergrad had so many cool phys ed type classes... benefit of going to undergrad in the mountains and only about an hour away from the Grand Canyon... there was kayaking, hiking, rock climbing, scuba diving (and you would become certified at the end), swimming, yoga, kickboxing, self defense, fencing, horse riding classes (all different types), Grand Canyon wildflowers (not kidding), Grand Canyon wildlife (again, not kidding), etc, etc....
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TAMU has among many others, a snow skiing class. There's some sort of artificial ski surface (I haven't seen it) . They call it Mt. Aggie
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TAMU has among many others, a snow skiing class. There's some sort of artificial ski surface (I haven't seen it) . They call it Mt. Aggie
There were a bunch of skiing and snowboarding classes too.. which were always dependent upon how much it snowed for that year, there was a ski resort about an hour away from the campus.
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First cycle 2: VMRCVM, NC State = rejected from both, no interview at VMRCVM
Second cycle 4: VMRCVM, NC State, Kansas, and Florida. Accepted at 3, declined interview to FL after NC State acceptance (but not before buying nonrefundable plane ticket...oh well, mini vacation to celebrate 😎)
I met a girl at one of my interviews who applied to 17 schools and had actually flown over seas to tour one of the international schools she was interviewed at. I would like to think up some awful thing to say about her but I really am just so jealous I could barely even speak to her after that. I'm a hater.
Second cycle 4: VMRCVM, NC State, Kansas, and Florida. Accepted at 3, declined interview to FL after NC State acceptance (but not before buying nonrefundable plane ticket...oh well, mini vacation to celebrate 😎)
I met a girl at one of my interviews who applied to 17 schools and had actually flown over seas to tour one of the international schools she was interviewed at. I would like to think up some awful thing to say about her but I really am just so jealous I could barely even speak to her after that. I'm a hater.
So I've been reading everyone's comments and some of y'all have been saying that y'all couldn't apply to certain schools because you didn't have the pre reqs for them. Well I'm going to mississippi state in the fall as an UNDERGRAD and my concentration is listed as pre vet. Since I'm listed as pre vet shouldn't that give me all the pre reqs to apply to any school in the country? I'm visiting the school Friday but I thought I'd ask here first.
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No, you will not necessarily have all the pre-reqs just because your major is pre-vet. Some veterinary schools require additional courses such as animal nutrition or public speaking which are not offered as part of the standard pre-vet program at many undergrads. So be sure to start researching which schools you want to apply to ahead of time, that way you'll be able to take those kinds of classes if you need to.
For example, Oregon State (iirc) requires you to take public speaking before applying. At my undergrad, public speaking was not a required course for pre-vets. You did not need to take it in order to get your degree. But I wanted to be able to apply to Oregon, so I took public speaking as an elective in my senior year.
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Public speaking was a gen-ed requirement at my undergrad school so while not all classes might be part of the standard "pre-vet" program, you're probably going to have to take most of them along the way to your bachelors degree (same goes with most english requirements). Animal nutrition being the biggest exception to this that I can think of.
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My IS allowed me the choice of either calc or statistics, but I know some vet schools will only accept statistics as a prereq.
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It definitely depends on the school. All of the primary pre-reqs were required in order to graduate as a pre-vet at my school, but I did have to take Animal Nutrition and Public Speaking as electives. Plus taking as many upper level science electives as I could to boost my application.
Some schools have a much more lax pre-vet program though. One undergrad I applied to had a pre-vet major in the loosest sense of the term. The advisor for the program was a math professor whose only experience with professional programs was that his daughter had once applied to med school. 🙄 The pre-vets there were on their own when it came to choosing which courses they needed to take and making sure they got all their pre-reqs, the same way that anyone who applies without a science degree does.
In the end, no matter where you go or what your major is, it's your responsibility as a student to make sure you take all the required pre-reqs for the veterinary schools you want to apply to. So it's a good idea to look over those requirements now and compare them to your undergrad's pre-vet program, so you'll know exactly what courses you need.
Be careful with this! I am a pre-vet major for my undergrad degree, and my biggest limitation when applying was not having public speaking (currently taking it) or the right humanities courses. Most of my breadth requirements were fulfilled using AP credits, but that meant I didn't have the English composition classes required by most vet schools. I filled out substitution forms to get around this, but it's probably easier to just complete all of the pre-reqs in the first place.🙂
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What Blackdog said: In the end, no matter where you go or what your major is, it's your responsibility as a student to make sure you take all the required pre-reqs for the veterinary schools you want to apply to. So it's a good idea to look over those requirements now and compare them to your undergrad's pre-vet program, so you'll know exactly what courses you need.
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I agree with the others that I would make it your responsibility to look into what schools you might be interested in applying ahead of time to make sure you take all of the required pre-reqs. Pre-Vet is one of the top 5 majors at my school (along with regular animal science, Equestrian Majors and pharmacy..) so we're a big science/animal school. My program requires or highly recommends every pre-req required by any of the US schools, but I wouldn't bank on that. I still looked up every school I liked to make sure I took the right classes. I do know of one person from my school who had trouble with Texas A&M's english requirement (apparently ours wasn't quite what they wanted) but I'm guessing she got it figured out because she got in and didn't have to take any additional classes.
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Obtaining a degree in Biology at my undergraduate college was sort of a pain when it came to meeting requirements for veterinary school, my degree, and gen ed. In hindsight, I should have just gotten my degree in Studio Arts because it would have been easier to complete requirement wise and taken a lot less time.
I had to take courses like Evolution, Ecology, and Calculus II for my degree. Additionally, I never had to take English Composition (instead I was required to take English Literature) so I was stuck taking I and II this year.
It's definitely important to think about requirements for veterinary school and requirements for your major. Perhaps if I had chosen another school to study Biology at there would have been more flexibility or greater crossover.
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You also don't need to do a pre-vet major or track. My school doesn't offer a pre-vet track, so I did bio/pre-med and it fulfilled the vet school requirements. I just made sure to supplement with animal focused upper level classes.
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My school doesn't offer a specific pre-vet major or track either. I think I was the only History major in my organic chem classes 🙂
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I should have done that! Four years with pre-meds was torture! You should have seen how many pre-med gunners wore white coats to labs.... Even Bio 1 lab.
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👍 I was the psych major.
Animal nutrition is one of the common pre-reqs that only certain schools require, but there are other school-specific pre-reqs or things that your pre-vet track might not include. One class I didn't take that seriously limited my application choices was Genetics, and I had to take a summer class in public speaking for my IS. Some schools require stats...Penn claims to only accept math or bio stats, but I got in with my psych stats (I also did their summer program, so I might have a little more leeway than most applicants). Those are the main ones I ran into, but it's definitely a school-specific thing on both ends: what the school you're applying to asks for and what your pre-vet program requires.
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Eh, this happened to me. (Although I did do some research and I did end up attending.) I think a little part of me hoped that I would have more than just the one choice (international to boot) which is where I assume most people are coming from when they get the one acceptance and say oh sht, do I really go there?
I applied to eight schools, interviewed and accepted to one. I had a really low GPA, though; if it had been more solid I think I would have probably applied to fewer.
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Mine was the other way around - I minored in English, and I was almost always the only science major in any of those classes. Liberal arts majors at my undergrad (particularly English) tend to be really easy too, so whenever I started talking about the things I had to do for my other courses, all my classmates were like: 😱😱😱
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YES. The difference in work for my liberal arts classes compared to my sciences courses was huge. I took a literature class this semester "just for fun"
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YES. The difference in work for my liberal arts classes compared to my sciences courses was huge. I took a literature class this semester "just for fun"
My roommate through most of college was a Classics/English double major. She had 3hr/week lecture classes vs my 4hr/week lecture + 3hr labs and tried to convince me that the workload was the same. Yet I'd be in class or lab or researching papers or studying for exams while she'd be having TV marathons. Her justification was that they had to write essays and read books, but I still don't buy it. It wasn't that I was trying to make her feel bad about her major, but the fact that she could double major and still have a lighter workload than I did just bothered me when she tried to tell me they were equivalent.
My undergrad also had a RIDICULOUS credit system where my Organic Chem 4 hr lecture + 4 hr lab/week was the same amount of credits as my Science Fiction 3 hr lecture course. It was "one class one credit" and I now realize it was the dumbest system I've ever seen. So my roommate and I could technically be taking the same number of credits yet I'd be in class 2-3 times as long during the week (I was also an Art minor and each of those studio classes were 6 hours a week).
All this to say, I wish the people I'd associated with understood the differences in workload. 🙂
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Regarding the English composition issue--my undergrad granted me 6 credits of composition I and II due to AP credits. I then got BA in English literature--will my literature classes not count for composition credits? Seems a bit silly given they were all writing intensive...
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forjunior it's also important to look at the # of credit hours/subject each school requires. For ex, Texas requires 5 hours of biochem lecture only, so if you take only one semester and get 3 or 4 credits for lec + 2 or 3 for lab....you still need more biochem lec hours. Some schools are more flexible with letting you substitute, but definitely ask far enough in advance to plan your schedule accordingly.
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It killed me when my 3 hour liberal arts classes were 3 credits but my 7 hours of science lecture + lab + recitation was only 4.5. Not fair... 😕
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You'll have to check with the veterinary schools that you are interested in applying to. In my case, it wasn't accepted even though I had previously taken a ton of writing intensive classes. Additionally, I believe some schools accept AP credit where as some don't. Sorry there is no tidy, universal answer.
I think Fine Arts majors get a bad rap. I can honestly say that I worked my butt off as a Studio Art major. Once I declared my major, the Art profs demanded so much more of me than my non-major peers. I could easily work for hours. One professor even suggested we sleep in our studios. He would come "check" on us at 1am to make sure we were working. That said, I definitely understand what it's like to live with a roommate who does minimal work. My roommate would watch her favorite TV shows or be online all the time. She'd also sleep in until 10am everyday. Still got straight A's.
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I have nothing but respect for our design/art students at my undergrad. The amount of hours you guys put in is obscene. I definitely classify that differently than social science/humanity majors... which I was a double major in and can definitely say took way less time than science work (although was very differently rewarding!)
(Oh, and on the initial question - I only applied to one school).
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I completely agree. I have a Studio Art minor (and would have tried to double major but I just really could not fit the hours in with all my labs). I still wonder sometimes how I managed to fit all the hours of class into a week and still have time for homework and studying etc.
