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There is a lot of societal pressure to conform to an idealized body image/type. (Psychology)

In the 1930's 2,4-Dinitrophenol was used as a weight-loss drug. (History)

It interferes with ATP synthesis in the mitochondria. (Biology)

Instead of producing ATP, the energy is lost to heat. (Physics)

Companies halted production by 1938 and lost revenue. (Economics)

All of that is pharmacy.

I'll take your word for it since you're a Pharmacist... but I'm just so damned angry I got to learn about the American Revolution and write an essay about the cause of Westward Expansion etc.

 

[JohnFe]

To the OP please have an open and understanding mind, some of these people are trying to help you and open your eyes.

Pharmacy schools are getting competitive. Minimum requirements are not going to cut it anymore. More than 60~80% of the applicants already have degrees. Also, here in California, a BS/BA degree are semi-required/mandatory.

Anyway, I'm going to attempt to put some sense into you. I finished a Pharmacy Tech certificate (600 hours of in class instruction and 330 hours externship). In this class, I learn basic pharmacy operations, pharmacy math and basic pharmacology. It gave me an insight on what to expect working in a pharmacy. In my externship, I worked at an inpatient hospital. I compounded medications, filled prescriptions, etc. It gave me that experience to work with staff and clinical pharmacists at the hospital. It may seem irrelevant as a pharmacist knowing these tech duties but it is NECESSARY. You as a pharmacist will check the tech's work. You have to make sure they do everything correctly or you will kill a patient!

Basic knowledge of the sciences is NECESSARY! It gives you an overview on how things work in molecular and tissue level. You as pharmacist will be learning about drug interactions and molecular biology and biochemistry will come into play. I think health care professionals should know these basic things to be understand what they are doing. Again, it may seem unnecessary but it gives you KNOWLEDGE to know what your doing and to EDUCATE others.

PS: I was working as an inpatient pharmacy tech and received a BS in Microbiology. I'm currently working at BBraun (Medical/Pharmaceutical company) as an industrial microbiologist.

 

[zelman]

I'll take your word for it since you're a Pharmacist... but I'm just so damned angry I got to learn about the American Revolution and write an essay about the cause of Westward Expansion etc.

That's the difference between vocational training and a college education. If you want to perform a task, you get trained. If you want to learn enough to have versatile competence, you get educated.

 

[JohnFe]

There is a lot of societal pressure to conform to an idealized body image/type. (Psychology)

In the 1930's 2,4-Dinitrophenol was used as a weight-loss drug. (History)

It interferes with ATP synthesis in the mitochondria. (Biology)

Instead of producing ATP, the energy is lost to heat. (Physics)

Companies halted production by 1938 and lost revenue. (Economics)

All of that is pharmacy.

👍

 

[VP_Pharm2004]

I applied to one program and was accepted on the first try. Apparently there were 1,200 applicants to my school that year.

 

[Skrumpy]

Well whatever you think, I'm gonna end up growing cells and and making gels for a good 1 year or two and apply to Pharmacy again.

Just to troll those applicants with a pharm tech certificate.

"HMMM SHOULD WE TAKE THIS GUY WITH A PHARM TECH LICENSE?! OR THAT GUY WHO GREW CELL FOR 2 YEARS!?!?!"

lolololol.

I feel pretty trolled.. it is pretty hard to get a pharm tech license. I mean I had to walk into a pharmacy and ask for one. Pretty difficult. But if trolling you keeps you "making gels" or w/e you plan on doing for 1-2 years that is another 1-2 years that one of us in the real world won't have to be exposed to you in a pharmacy setting. Troll on!

 

[ForumHangout]

I feel pretty trolled.. it is pretty hard to get a pharm tech license. I mean I had to walk into a pharmacy and ask for one. Pretty difficult. But if trolling you keeps you "making gels" or w/e you plan on doing for 1-2 years that is another 1-2 years that one of us in the real world won't have to be exposed to you in a pharmacy setting. Troll on!

"one of us" hmmm? you sure are making lots of friends. I wonder why people like you soo much!

 

[Skrumpy]

"one of us" hmmm? you sure are making lots of friends. I wonder why people like you soo much!

I think it's because I have a tech license.

 

[rxtech2012]

"one of us" hmmm? you sure are making lots of friends. I wonder why people like you soo much!

Thanks for the entertainment 🙂

 

[BidingMyTime]

They should have scrapped everything and put JUST the 2 general chemistry classes and the two Organic Chemistry classes in there if they wanted to test me. Infact, make this 4 class the ONLY prerequisite. If I get A's in them then I surely possess the "ability to learn processes, memorize facts, and synthesize information and apply in novel settings".

...why are they wasting my time with Physics, Economic, Biology, History, Psychology and stuff like that?

Isn't it better to test my abilities with 2 general Chem and 2 Orgo chem? these other thing are just unecessary IMO.

No, because being a pharmacist in almost any practice setting involves the ability to multi-task efficiently. If you can't handle more than one class at a time, you don't have the right mind processing power to be a pharmacist. Perhaps you would be better off going into research...a job where you can potentially single-mindedly focus on a subject. Nothing wrong with that, not everyone has the ability to multi-task, not everyone has the patience or depth to do research.

 

[BidingMyTime]

You know what? to rub salt in ya'll people faces... after I get my bachelor degree, I'm going to go find a job as a research technician at Genzyme or Merck or Novartis growing cells and making chemical medium... then I'll apply to Pharmacy school again.

I sure won't have pharm tech on my resume, but I'll be satisfied that I screw you ppl over.

Um yeah....I don't see how anything you to do to make your own life a success is "screwing us over." Really, I'm pretty sure that very few (if any) people here are losing in sleep over what you do or don't do with your life. At any rate, getting accepted to pharmacy school is a whole different league from graduating from pharmacy school. If you mature enough to graduate from pharmacy school, you will understand how right everyone here is, even if you never admit it. A win/win situation for everyone.

 

[eagles22]

Um yeah....I don't see how anything you to do to make your own life a success is "screwing us over." Really, I'm pretty sure that very few (if any) people here are losing in sleep over what you do or don't do with your life. At any rate, getting accepted to pharmacy school is a whole different league from graduating from pharmacy school. If you mature enough to graduate from pharmacy school, you will understand how right everyone here is, even if you never admit it. A win/win situation for everyone.

Didn't you know that the entry level technician at a research company can hire and fire pharmacists working in retail and hospitals?

 

[MedAffairer]

You know what? to rub salt in ya'll people faces... after I get my bachelor degree, I'm going to go find a job as a research technician at Genzyme or Merck or Novartis growing cells and making chemical medium... then I'll apply to Pharmacy school again.

I sure won't have pharm tech on my resume, but I'll be satisfied that I screw you ppl over.

I almost spilled my drink at work when I read this..

 

[Kayla007]

I wonder what'd say if they ask me the same question. I'd prolly just get angry IMO.

...Maybe say learning how to grow cell prove that I can work as a pharm tech prove that I'm smart enough to be a Pharmacist.

ure an idiot. that is all.

 

[ForumHangout]

ure an idiot. that is all.

At which part? at the part where I'll say I'll prolly just get mad if they ask me the question?

 

[Digsbe]

I wonder what'd say if they ask me the same question. I'd prolly just get angry IMO.

...Maybe say learning how to grow cell prove that I can work as a pharm tech prove that I'm smart enough to be a Pharmacist.

I worked as a molecular biology lab assistant and grew cells. Being a pharmacy tech and a lab tech are 2 separate things. Really, the only tidbit that may be applicable would be knowing that some cell types need insulin in their media and you can add antibiotics to media to prevent contamination, it might also help you understand primary research articles that utilize tissue culture.

However, knowing how to grow cells doesn't mean that someone is smart enough to become a pharmacist. It means you know a lab skill and may be prepared for sterile preparations since tissue culture and making IVs need to be done under sterile conditions.

 

[ForumHangout]

I almost spilled my drink at work when I read this..

IDK dude... IDK... that sentence didn't seem THAT funny.

 

[ForumHangout]

I worked as a molecular biology lab assistant and grew cells. Being a pharmacy tech and a lab tech are 2 separate things. Really, the only tidbit that may be applicable would be knowing that some cell types need insulin in their media and you can add antibiotics to media to prevent contamination, it might also help you understand primary research articles that utilize tissue culture.

However, knowing how to grow cells doesn't mean that someone is smart enough to become a pharmacist. It means you know a lab skill and may be prepared for sterile preparations since tissue culture and making IVs need to be done under sterile conditions.

The main point all along is that that I'm saying I want to be a pharmacist not a pharm tech so I'm not going to become a tech when I apply for pharmacy school.

These people are insisting that I'm never going to get accepted to a pharmacy school without becoming a pharm tech first to impress the school.

...So I said I'm gonna become a lab tech instead if they wanted something impressive to look at or wanted simply a "tech" spot on the resume to make my application seems more competitive.

Sounds 2 me like most ppl here are saying being a tech make ur resume bigger or something. Make resume bigger? sure I'll grow cell.

 

[PharmtoCS]

This will be the last post I'll make for now.

:troll:

 

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This will be the last post I'll make for now.

:troll:

For now? alright, I'll hope you come back later.

 

[grumps]

There really is no such thing as multi-tasking. You can only focus on one thing at a time. Multi-tasking is switching that focus from one serial process to another, it's not true parallel processing.

 

[smercer]

Being a Pharm tech:

-Makes sure you even know wth the field is like.
-Allows you to begin understanding the basic processes of a pharmacy.
-Gives you experience learning/using terms and other lingo associated with the pharmacy/medical field.
-Makes you proficient at some of the tasks that you will be judged on while on your IPPE/APPEs.
-Gives you access to pharmacists for LoRs(something most schools require).
-Lets you begin networking with pharmacists...whom may be useful as references when you are looking for a job as a pharmacist.

"Growing Cells"-

-Lets you prove to them that you can follow basic processes and aseptic technique. (growing cells is only hard if you suck at aseptic technique).
-Not much else.

If you took an upper level micro/biochem lab or did research during your bachelors, then you probably grew some cells. Hell, I spent the last year doing research. Guess what, I grew some cells.
Guess how useful that has been for me while working at the pharmacy? Never.
Being a pharm tech will only make getting into pharm school and the early part of pharm school easier.

 

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This thread is the best 👍

 

[Skrumpy]

I should have put that I've been "growing cells for 33 years" on my pharmacy school applications. My body does it on a daily basis.. now I'm doubly qualified as not only am I a pharm tech but I also grow cells.

 

[88888888]

I should have put that I've been "growing cells for 33 years" on my pharmacy school applications. My body does it on a daily basis.. now I'm doubly qualified as not only am I a pharm tech but I also grow cells.

Lol

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[Mehds]

I applied as a test run bc my gpa was sort of low.
But I applied to 2 schools. got 1 interview and made sure I was super duper prepared for the interview! And I got in 😀😀

Boom Shakalakaka

 

[metrarx]

I applied as a test run bc my gpa was sort of low.
But I applied to 2 schools. got 1 interview and made sure I was super duper prepared for the interview! And I got in 😀😀

Boom Shakalakaka

It's sad that pharmacy admission has been reduced to this. When there were <100 schools, this would be unheard of but not anymore...

 

[ACE Rx]

It's sad that pharmacy admission has been reduced to this. When there were <100 schools, this would be unheard of but not anymore...

Yep. It was only a few years ago that people who got rejected to pharmacy school saying it was way too difficult to get in and applied to dental school instead. This happened to two of my dentists.

I am glad my school holds their standards high but the the standards of these new schools on the other hand will accept basically any one who can apply for FAFSA.

 

[ForumHangout]

Yep. It was only a few years ago that people who got rejected to pharmacy school saying it was way too difficult to get in and applied to dental school instead. This happened to two of my dentists.

I am glad my school holds their standards high but the the standards of these new schools on the other hand will accept basically any one who can apply for FAFSA.

Guys guys stop being selfish.

It's about training successful Pharmacist. Whatever state they're in, as long as the program determine that they pass then that's all it matter.

All this and that about "underserving" candidate means nothing. It's all about training people to serve other people.

 

[theSully]

Guys guys stop being selfish.

It's about training successful Pharmacist. Whatever state they're in, as long as the program determine that they pass then that's all it matter.

All this and that about "underserving" candidate means nothing. It's all about training people to serve other people.

If you want to serve people without taking science classes, why not be a social worker?

I worked as a molecular biology lab assistant and grew cells. Being a pharmacy tech and a lab tech are 2 separate things. Really, the only tidbit that may be applicable would be knowing that some cell types need insulin in their media and you can add antibiotics to media to prevent contamination, it might also help you understand primary research articles that utilize tissue culture.

However, knowing how to grow cells doesn't mean that someone is smart enough to become a pharmacist. It means you know a lab skill and may be prepared for sterile preparations since tissue culture and making IVs need to be done under sterile conditions.

Sounds like it'd be great prep to be a tech in a compounding or hospital pharmacy.

 

[Carboxide]

Guys guys stop being selfish.

It's about training successful Pharmacist. Whatever state they're in, as long as the program determine that they pass then that's all it matter.

All this and that about "underserving" candidate means nothing. It's all about training people to serve other people.

Why not become a garbage man?

 

[ForumHangout]

Why not become a garbage man or why not becoming a social worker is IRRELEVANT.

 

[rxlea]

There is always truck driving school

 

[ForumHangout]

There is always truck driving school

That's irrelevant 2!