I just want to know how many credits i should take at a community college and then transfer to a 4 year college or does it(taking science courses at community college) have any effect on going to Medical schools ?
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
Google average age of med school matriculation. Answer... a lot of people have time for it.Who the hell has time for that?
Don't listen to this. I took biology and chemistry and a CC, and o-chem, physics, biochem, and a bunch of other upper division science classes at a 4-year. I've been doing just fine. As long as you do well and prove that you can do well at a 4-year, it won't hurt you at all (unless you're gunning for a top 10 acceptance).
Google average age of med school matriculation. Answer... a lot of people have time for it.
It's not necessarily a race.
I gotcha, I totally understand. I took many a CC class as well and am a non-trad. It is, of course, a legitimate way of getting into medical school (worked for me).Well, of course not. I'm on the GI-Bill and it only pays for 4 academic years. Because of timing, I had to start at a CC. I'm sure I'll be fine. Taking classes (even prereqs) at a CC is a perfectly legitimate way to gain acceptance to an MD school.
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
I gotcha, I totally understand. I took many a CC class as well and am a non-trad. It is, of course, a legitimate way of getting into medical school (worked for me).
That being said, I still think the most ideal, perfect-world application would have all pre-reqs at a 4-yr school so that is why I gave that advice. I highly respect the military route, however. Best of luck!!
How can you give such stupid advice? Have you ever sat on an admissions committee?
Relax. Chances are a top-10 Dean of Admission isn't going to respond directly to his question.How can you give such stupid advice? Have you ever sat on an admissions committee?
A little harsh, don't ya think?
Relax. Chances are a top-10 Dean of Admission isn't going to respond directly to his question.
I'm simply relaying personal advice I've received from members of the Health Professions Advisory Committee at my school and also a PI of my research lab since I had taken a lot of CC classes. Just trying to help someone out and share advice I've been given in the past.
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
I contacted with BCOM not too long ago, I asked If they accept CC credits this is what the admissions guy said:
"As long as the prerequisites are completed at a fully accredited college or university in the United States, then they are acceptable."
I also asked Florida med schools too, said the same thing.
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
Retaking at college is unnecessary. Best thing for OP to do is to avoid schools that don't accept CC credits (i.e. get an MSAR)
He's asking how many "should" I take.No, I'm actually being a little too nice. He's recommending that the OP flush thousands of dollars down the toilet to retake classes for no reason.
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
An A is an A no matter what; there's no reason to repeat an A no matter where it's from. If you do well at the CC and continue to do well at a 4-year (in science classes, especially), you should be in the clear (except for the 4-5 schools that don't accept CC credits-- just don't apply to those schools).
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
I think better advice would be to take higher-level science courses at a 4-year school instead of actually repeating the pre-reqs you already did well in; that seems like a waste of time to me.
While this is true theoretically, it isn't really so in the real world. Many schools frown upon CC credit and some outright won't accept it as you mentioned. My school is one of the former and applicants are told on the admissions website that CC credit is effectively viewed not as positively as coursework done at a university. I agree that it's stupid and based purely on stigma, but that's how it is. My guess is that there are also at least a few schools that don't say anything about this directly but in actuality view CC credit as less than desirable. It's one of those dirty little things in med admissions.
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Ok but here is another perspective. Schools that reject A's from CCs can be viewed as discriminatory, financially speaking; since with the outrageous cost of tuition, even for undergrad at most schools, and then breaking people's backs with the cost of med schools, people need to conserve money anywhere along the path that they can. It's a disgrace how many students are seriously burdened with student loan debt for just about any baccalaureate, let alone grad degree, and must less the financially crippling burden of medical school.
So this spitting on CC credits would seem to favor those students with money, the few that gain scholarships, and the few underrepresented . It totally screws over everyone else.
I mean do they need physicians or not? This attitude totally supports others into going into mid level practice. Hmmm. Maybe that's the point. That is, if you want primary care, the incentive seems to be toward foregoing medical school and pursuing pa or np instead. It may also be some collusion with the push for cheaper primary care supply, while keeping allopathic medicine more for upper-crusts that will specialize. Sometimes you do have to wonder.
The more you analyze the admissions process, the more you realize this is true ("this" being that there is discrimination between the wealthy and poor). The reality is that people with money have a much easier go at the admissions process than people that don't in nearly all aspects of the process. With ECs, you have more opportunities to do stuff since you're not working to pay for school and can likely afford to do super cool ECs that others may not be able to (traveling, etc.). With the MCAT, you are more likely to be more prepared because of the ability to pay for prep materials and courses. You have the ability to apply to a bunch of schools and attend all of your interviews - something you may not be able to do as easily if you don't have money (even if you qualify for FAP). Hell, even having the drive and knowledge to navigate this process is more likely to be present in the wealthy than the poor - if only because wealthy, white individuals are more likely to understand processes like these than poorer folks. If you have a kid whose parents went to college and graduate/professional school, how do you think a kid from a family who has never had anyone attend college is going to fair when it comes to doing this ridiculous process and others similar to it (e.g., college admissions)?
I don't think this is an insidious plot to prevent the poor from getting into medical school. I just don't think the admissions process is that thought out, especially with what is used as a proxy for evaluating applicants. The poor certainly have the ability to get into medical school if they have the drive, but the wealthy (even just "the middle class") have a much easier time with it. I also became more aware of this once I started to learn about the backgrounds of applicants and my classmates. An overwhelming number of the people that I've met - applicants and classmates - come from what I would consider to be a pretty privileged background. And I don't mean that in a Richie Rich kind of way. I think this is also a major reason why you see so few URM matriculants despite the "advantages" they have in the process.
I wouldn't recommend taking any of the med school per-requisites and if you do, repeat them at your 4-year institution to show mastery at a higher level.
Regardless of how schools view them, doing well in community college classes will boost your AMCAS GPA - it definitely helped mine. That can only be seen as beneficial. I took a couple English classes at a comm. college (but also took a couple at my 4-yr school) and no one has brought up the issue.
Seriously? Some people have full time jobs. Community Colleges are good for some things. It isn't like knowledge suddenly changes when you magically reach the hallowed halls of a 4 year.
Unfortunately, I emailed Johns Hopkins admissions this morning, and they do not accept CC credits, and they only accept upper-levels for some courses (ie not general chemistry).
John Hopkins isn't the only med school out there.
Unfortunately, I emailed Johns Hopkins admissions this morning, and they do not accept CC credits, and they only accept upper-levels for some courses (ie not general chemistry).
Seriously? Some people have full time jobs. Community Colleges are good for some things. It isn't like knowledge suddenly changes when you magically reach the hallowed halls of a 4 year.
Unfortunately, I emailed Johns Hopkins admissions this morning, and they do not accept CC credits, and they only accept upper-levels for some courses (ie not general chemistry).
Actually, I belive I've read somewhere that Harvard takes one or two CC transfer students a year. They may be more understanding than Hopkins.
What do you mean "they only accept upper-levels for some courses"?Unfortunately, I emailed Johns Hopkins admissions this morning, and they do not accept CC credits, and they only accept upper-levels for some courses (ie not general chemistry).
What do you mean "they only accept upper-levels for some courses"?
Unfortunately, I emailed Johns Hopkins admissions this morning, and they do not accept CC credits, and they only accept upper-levels for some courses (ie not general chemistry).
Have you emailed school's in your'e state? Do that and see what you get.
That's odd... I did all my pre reqs at CC and was accepted at Hopkins.... I haven't heard of a policy change in the last year.
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That's odd... I did all my pre reqs at CC and was accepted at Hopkins.... I haven't heard of a policy change in the last year.
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