How much money has Pathoma made?

[Robotman]

$100 for the best pathology resource. I wonder if this guy is swimming in money.

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[DermViser]

Probably. Although he is an academic pathologist at Pritzker so I'm sure he enjoys his work as well. He's like the replacement for Edward Goljan (now that I believe Goljan has retired).

 

[PL198]

Doubt it.. What is he making on each book? It's not like being a medical student is that common in the US or the world. I'm sure he's done ok, but I doubt it's millions of dollars.

 

[Robotman]

Doubt it.. What is he making on each book? It's not like being a medical student is that common in the US or the world. I'm sure he's done ok, but I doubt it's millions of dollars.

Say there are 20k students ever MS2, 100$ for the year. So every year 200k.

 

[PL198]

Say there are 20k students ever MS2, 100$ for the year. So every year 200k.

he has costs you know.... it's not like it's a) cheap to make books with that quality paper(lol yes I appreciate this), this is assuming he produces the book himself(took lazy to look at mine) b) host a website that gets that much traffic with that much bandwidth. I doubt Pathoma is as popular internationally as it is in the US and I'd still say only about half my class uses it.

This is just throwing a guess with no real qualification, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was netting 10-20 bucks per order.

I mean what you just said is 200k for the year in revenue. That's microscopic in terms of running a business. Your local gas station is getting 10x that amount of revenue every year.

I'm not trying to say he's losing money on it, but I highly doubt he's making more from pathoma than he does from his job. He easily could have, but chose to price it low to help out students. I'd easily pay 300 for it.

 

[anbuitachi]

Say there are 20k students ever MS2, 100$ for the year. So every year 200k.

There may be a math error here lol...

 

[ProEra]

Dr. Sattar's product is worth every penny. He needs to be promoted to Associate Dean of whatever and given a significant raise. This guy understands students and understands medical education in the 21st century.

 

[Rirruto]

I also wonder what kind of cut, if any, the university takes. This is a little different than a researcher spinning off a company from his lab, in which the university would take a cut (at least in a large public university system).

 

[Bancrofti]

Whatever he's making, you could probably quadruple that at the least if you remove the influence of downloads. Sucks to be great at anything media based in this age.

 

[colbgw02]

There may be a math error here lol...

That. Or he's assuming a 10% profit margin.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

Whatever he's making, you could probably quadruple that at the least if you remove the influence of downloads. Sucks to be great at anything media based in this age.

No.
The meat of pathoma is having the actual book to take notes in as he talks (which I think most students figure out). You might know some people that pirated the videos but they're like half as helpful without the book to take notes in.

 

[xffan624]

No.
The meat of pathoma is having the actual book to take notes in as he talks (which I think most students figure out). You might know some people that pirated the videos but they're like half as helpful without the book to take notes in.

Most of the pirated copies come with the pdf copy of the book.

 

[DermViser]

Dr. Sattar's product is worth every penny. He needs to be promoted to Associate Dean of whatever and given a significant raise. This guy understands students and understands medical education in the 21st century.

At a place like Pritzker - they'll be more likely to promote someone with a PhD in Sociology to Associate Dean than someone who is actually useful.

 

[DermViser]

I doubt Pathoma is as popular internationally as it is in the US and I'd still say only about half my class uses it.

Uh, no. If First Aid is popular internationally, by now Pathoma is.

 

[Robotman]

No.
The meat of pathoma is having the actual book to take notes in as he talks (which I think most students figure out). You might know some people that pirated the videos but they're like half as helpful without the book to take notes in.

Lol no. I never write in his book, all I need to do is watch it multiple times and his words just float in my brain.

Its so cheap that I am happy to pay this guy even though I have the pirated videos.

 

[PL198]

Uh, no. If First Aid is popular internationally, by now Pathoma is.

look who publishes it and it's been around for way longer than pathoma has.

yeah I bet if half my class uses it, I bet half that is pirated(it might even be more) so if we're assuming 1/4 of US medical students and then maybe like 1/8 of internationals, not exactly a huge market for 100 a pop.

 

[Freddie Mercury]

Dr. Sattar's product is worth every penny. He needs to be promoted to Associate Dean of whatever and given a significant raise. This guy understands students and understands medical education in the 21st century.

The LCME (or whoever makes standards for medical school curricula) should just pay Sattar to make a complete pathology course for all US medical schools. In fact, they should pay Costanzo to do the same for physio, find someone similar for biochem and all the other subjects. Completely standardize the book stuff for M1-M2.

 

[Robotman]

The LCME (or whoever makes standards for medical school curricula) should just pay Sattar to make a complete pathology course for all US medical schools. In fact, they should pay Costanzo to do the same for physio, find someone similar for biochem and all the other subjects. Completely standardize the book stuff for M1-M2.

If we standardize those two years, then how will we hate on US IMGs.

 

[BurghStudent]

Whatever he's making, you could probably quadruple that at the least if you remove the influence of downloads. Sucks to be great at anything media based in this age.

Amazingly I've seen peer pressure not to pirate Pathoma. It is discouraged at my school. Sattar definitely has a loyal customer base. They appreciate how student-oriented he is.

 

[anbuitachi]

Amazingly I've seen peer pressure not to pirate Pathoma. It is discouraged at my school. Sattar definitely has a loyal customer base. They appreciate how student-oriented he is.

same at my school. we discourage pirating. students pay the 99$ to show their support

 

[Bancrofti]

No.
The meat of pathoma is having the actual book to take notes in as he talks (which I think most students figure out). You might know some people that pirated the videos but they're like half as helpful without the book to take notes in.

See both posts below.

Most of the pirated copies come with the pdf copy of the book.

Lol no. I never write in his book, all I need to do is watch it multiple times and his words just float in my brain.
Its so cheap that I am happy to pay this guy even though I have the pirated videos.

Amazingly I've seen peer pressure not to pirate Pathoma. It is discouraged at my school. Sattar definitely has a loyal customer base. They appreciate how student-oriented he is.

I've seen it on SDN, but haven't witnessed it in person. I had both the official and pirated copy. I agree that his material is that good that people should just fork over the money. However, it isn't good enough to be the sole source if you want to achieve a stellar step score or even to do well in your Pathology course. I think for some it just becomes a matter of wanting to have all the possible sources, just in case, so they just download everything. If I was to add up the actual cost of all the books & videos I've used over the past year that I purchased and/or downloaded, it would easily top 1k. $100 for Pathoma isn't that big of a deal. 1k+ for Pathoma, First Aid, Uworld, Kaplan videos, BRS books, etc. adds up quickly. I guess the virtuous man would make the trek to the library, oh well. I don't support it, but I'm also not necessarily in a position where I can argue against it either.

 

[PL198]

Pathoma got me a question right today on a class quiz that wasn't covered in the notes and I'm sure as **** not going to do the assigned readings. Rock on Dr. Sattar

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

Say there are 20k students ever MS2, 100$ for the year. So every year 200k.

I know we are in the medical profession, and math isn't our forte. But i'm pretty sure 100 times 20,000 is more than 200,000 lol.

Dr.Sattar has made a lot of money from pathoma without a doubt, even if he has expenses. He deserves it from what i have heard about his course.

 

[Cytarabine]

He probably makes a few 100k a year off it. He deserves whatever he's getting. Very fairly priced invaluable resource

 

[Etorphine]

deserves every penny

 

[Silent Cool]

At a place like Pritzker - they'll be more likely to promote someone with a PhD in Sociology to Associate Dean than someone who is actually useful.

@DermViser ,

I love that you and I both seem to have a passionate dislike of academia.

rock on

 

[notbobtrustme]

One of my good friends is a muslim who also went to med school and Dr. Sattar sometimes lectures at his mosque. He said that Sattar pretty much donates all the money that he doesn't put back into the business. Dude's super religious and doesn't really care all that much for material wealth.

 

[Kahreek]

That. Or he's assuming a 10% profit margin.

10% margin for a book? nahh.
Unless he evaluates his mind at 2 billion dollars and pays it equity every year.

 

[Kahreek]

same at my school. we discourage pirating. students pay the 99$ to show their support

To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art; and that by my teaching, I will impart a knowledge of this art to my own sons, and to my teacher's sons, and to disciples bound by an indenture and oath according to the medical laws, and no others.

 

[DermViser]

Amazingly I've seen peer pressure not to pirate Pathoma. It is discouraged at my school. Sattar definitely has a loyal customer base. They appreciate how student-oriented he is.

same at my school. we discourage pirating. students pay the 99$ to show their support

Any medical student who is willing to pirate for a measly $100 for something that clarifies so much, but will sign a promissory note for $30K to 50K of loans deserves huge mockery and ridicule and should be tarred and feathered.

 

[DermViser]

Say there are 20k students ever MS2, 100$ for the year. So every year 200k.

More like 2000k.

 

[DermViser]

look who publishes it and it's been around for way longer than pathoma has.

yeah I bet if half my class uses it, I bet half that is pirated(it might even be more) so if we're assuming 1/4 of US medical students and then maybe like 1/8 of internationals, not exactly a huge market for 100 a pop.

I'm just talking about actually using it. The means one chooses to get it is up to that person. I also think it's a LOT more than 1/4 of US med students considering all of the med students at Pritzker use it.

 

[anbuitachi]

I'm just talking about actually using it. The means one chooses to get it is up to that person. I also think it's a LOT more than 1/4 of US med students considering all of the med students at Pritzker use it.

At our school, prob half use it. Ppl who are disciplined and can get themselves to start studying earlier usually use Goljan. crammers tend to use pathoma if anything

 

[DermViser]

At our school, prob half use it. Ppl who are disciplined and can get themselves to start studying earlier usually use Goljan. crammers tend to use pathoma if anything

Goljan with the audio has a lot more integration across disciplines, and it does take time to go thru which if you start early you can do. I've never done Pathoma, but it seems more to me like a BRS Path in that the lectures are fully Pathology only (correct me if I'm wrong). There is no cross connecting of different basic science disciplines, I believe.

 

[NeuroLAX]

Goljan with the audio has a lot more integration across disciplines, and it does take time to go thru which if you start early you can do. I've never done Pathoma, but it seems more to me like a BRS Path in that the lectures are fully Pathology only (correct me if I'm wrong). There is no cross connecting of different basic science disciplines, I believe.

Dr. Sattar explains the path in such a way that it makes it easily understood. He throws in some basic science integration where applicable, albeit you don't get the same level and depth of integration provided by Poppie.

 

[DermViser]

Dr. Sattar explains the path in such a way that it makes it easily understood. He throws in some basic science integration where applicable, albeit you don't get the same level and depth of integration provided by Poppie.

lol. Ah, too bad. I should have known. No one can replace Poppie.

 

[cbrons]

At a place like Pritzker - they'll be more likely to promote someone with a PhD in Sociology to Associate Dean than someone who is actually useful.

Hahaha. Sadly true of many many schools


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[cbrons]

One of my good friends is a muslim who also went to med school and Dr. Sattar sometimes lectures at his mosque. He said that Sattar pretty much donates all the money that he doesn't put back into the business. Dude's super religious and doesn't really care all that much for material wealth.

You know its interesting. Goljan too is also very religious (Christian).



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[DrOwnage]

Goljan > Sattar

*grabs popcorn*

 

[mcloaf]

At our school, prob half use it. Ppl who are disciplined and can get themselves to start studying earlier usually use Goljan. crammers tend to use pathoma if anything

Interesting. My approach has been to go through Pathoma first, then follow that up by reading in Goljan. Without some sort of background Goljan would be a real bad time to read. I'm planning to save the audio tracks for later in the year since I've been told they can be pretty integrative.

 

[Robotman]

Interesting. My approach has been to go through Pathoma first, then follow that up by reading in Goljan. Without some sort of background Goljan would be a real bad time to read. I'm planning to save the audio tracks for later in the year since I've been told they can be pretty integrative.

Not really, its as integrative as Pathoma can be when he asks where else can you see "psmamma bodies"?

For example, Goljan will ask what other syndromes will you see Tophi and it will be Caplan syndrome, but this won't impair your ability to follow along Goljan.

 

[MilkIsGood]

I'm just talking about actually using it. The means one chooses to get it is up to that person. I also think it's a LOT more than 1/4 of US med students considering all of the med students at Pritzker use it.

Definitely a lot more than 1/4. He mentions a rough estimate of how many students use pathoma in a YouTube video and it was a very large number.
He's definitely making good money and it's well deserved. Pritzker students still have to buy pathoma, but at a discount

 

[KinasePro]

lol. Ah, too bad. I should have known. No one can replace Poppie.

QFT.

Broad based buds crew, checking in.
ALS healed by religious miracle crew, checking in.

But on a serious note, I think pathoma will help you get to the 240's, but poppie gets you to 260+. His work has so many factoids that have actually been on board exams in the last few decades. There's just no other substitute. Not even sure if his practice of polling students after their exams is ethical, but that's besides the point. If you have the time to do Goljan text and audio, it's well worth it.

 

[Guillemot]

even though i scored high on step 1, reading this makes me sad that pathoma wasnt around when i had path/step 1.

 

[DermViser]

even though i scored high on step 1, reading this makes me sad that pathoma wasnt around when i had path/step 1.

Why? Goljan with his audio was invaluable esp. when it came to clinicals like Internal Medicine.

 

[PL198]

I'm going to use both. I assume pathoma is easier to learn path from since it's much more concise and not as tied into the other subjects. After I get my path solid, I plan to use RR and goljan audio

 

[Guillemot]

Why? Goljan with his audio was invaluable esp. when it came to clinicals like Internal Medicine.

because it would have been nice to have been able to use such a highly regarded resource... probably would have made my life easier.

 

[DermViser]

because it would have been nice to have been able to use such a highly regarded resource... probably would have made my life easier.

How?

 

[Guillemot]

learning from high quality material is easier.....

 

[Cytarabine]

Lol @ pathoma not being enough to make 'x' score.