How much Orgo has been on recent MCAT's?

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Taking the test on Saturday. Trying to figure out how much time to spend doing a final ochem review this week. For those that have taken the test recently, how much ochem has been on it?
 
Taking the test on Saturday. Trying to figure out how much time to spend doing a final ochem review this week. For those that have taken the test recently, how much ochem has been on it?

A very low amount I'd say 15-20%. the mcat is trending away from organic chemistry. Most of the biosci section is physiology, genetics, biochem and mcb type material. You might get a passage or a few questions in different passages or some odd ball discretes that'll really mess with your head. It's really disappointing imo. I probably would have gotten a 12 or a 13 in biosci if it was 50:50 like I expected.
 
A very low amount I'd say 15-20%. the mcat is trending away from organic chemistry. Most of the biosci section is physiology, genetics, biochem and mcb type material. You might get a passage or a few questions in different passages or some odd ball discretes that'll really mess with your head. It's really disappointing imo. I probably would have gotten a 12 or a 13 in biosci if it was 50:50 like I expected.

Good to hear. My physiology and anatomy is air tight. Genetics, as long as it's not complex, I'm pretty solid. Biochem, I never took this class...should I do a crash course over the next week?
 
I think I had 2 discrete questions on organic and that's it. Although every test is different, for the one I took I think you'd have been far better served by getting in the basics of biochem than reviewing organic.
 
Good to hear. My physiology and anatomy is air tight. Genetics, as long as it's not complex, I'm pretty solid. Biochem, I never took this class...should I do a crash course over the next week?

Genetics - you should be fine then.

Biochem: it's only some basics and most of it can be taken care of by putting them on flashcards.
Some of it you should have covered in ochem:
Know your amino acids :how to calculate pKas, the properties of different amino acids like hydrophobic ones (be able to categorize the AA and know their basic structures), special ones like glycline and proline, be able to group them. maybe learn about different reactions such as what protecting groups such as CBZ or DCC may do* (The berkeley review has them in it but i'm not sure if it's worth your time honestly).
Know your simple sugars: how to convert between fischer projections and haworths, identifying D and L sugars, R or S config, alpha or beta, converting between alpha and beta/D or L, and reducing and non reducing sugars as well as some simple reactions like what HIO4 does sugars, what cu2+ does, HNO3 does, kiliani fischer synthesis. knowing the difference between a few basic sugars like being able to identify glucose, sucrose, cellulose, and celliobiose wouldn't hurt (put them on flashcards).

Other stuff that's biochem related that you should know:
Know the basics of glycolysis, the krebs cycle, ETC. number of FADH2, NADH, and ATP produced in each process. where each takes place (cytosol, mitochondrial matrix, and inner mitochondrial matrix) and the basic descriptions of the processes (are they catabolic or anabolic? reductive or oxidative? what are the reactants and products? dont memorize the entire processes just get an understanding of how they work). Know about the difference between aerobic and non-aerobic metabolism. The ethanol and lactate cycles are good to know as well.
Also knowing about some misc tests that are applicable to biochem molecules such as thin layer chromatography helps.
 
For me 1 passage and a few discretes.

But another recent MCAT had 3 passages I've heard.
 
I've been told over and over again that knowing AA structure wasn't needed...so is it? I don't want to do that if I don't have to. Already made flashcards for their groupings though.
 
I've been told over and over again that knowing AA structure wasn't needed...so is it? I don't want to do that if I don't have to. Already made flashcards for their groupings though.

Structure and detailed characteristics are low yield, but they do appear once in a while.
 
I've been told over and over again that knowing AA structure wasn't needed...so is it? I don't want to do that if I don't have to. Already made flashcards for their groupings though.

do it anyway is the best tip i can give you. it cant hurt you and it's not that bad to do.
 
I took the MCAT without taking Orgo, just self taught a few concepts: naming of compounds and common pre/suffixes, IR spectra (really just carbonyl and alcohol), NMR plots, Sn1 vs Sn2....those few skills got me through almost all the questions. The few questions I didn't know could usually have at least 1-2 answers knocked down with what I knew.
 
In my opinion knowing SN1/2, E1/2, Grignards, Addition Rxn's, Mass Spec/NMR, Stereochemistry, Resonance, and Alcohol/Ketone/Aldehyde Rxn's will be enough for MCAT...at least these days..
 
Varies from test to test. I was lucky in that my test had 1 orgo passage (that was extremely simple) and a few discretes.
 
In my opinion knowing SN1/2, E1/2, Grignards, Addition Rxn's, Mass Spec/NMR, Stereochemistry, Resonance, and Alcohol/Ketone/Aldehyde Rxn's will be enough for MCAT...at least these days..

i know all of these pretty cold. so you think it wouldnt be worth any more of my time to do more orgo review?
 
Mine had one pretty straight forward orgo passage, one unrealistically specific orgo passage that was not doable based on my current level of knowledge (something straight out of an orgo II class), and a few manageable discretes. It's really hit or miss, but if I had it to do over again (which I might have to) I wouldn't cut corners on orgo.
 
Although I agree it's not going to be the majority but it will be there.. I would spend a few days brushing up on SN1/SN2/E1/E1 .. acid base, resonance, EWG/EDG with just those basics you can really figure out any problem.. also TBR does a great job of the common reactions on the BS mcat page so knowing those would be important imo... I had a passage that was either you know that reaction or you're screwed kind of a deal so.. it got really awk. 🙂
 
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