How old will you be when you finish medical school?

[Moto]

Feeling old and grumpy

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[johnnyb255]

I'll be 22. I don't fit on your poll... don't you like me?

 

[Moto]

I'll be 22. I don't fit on your poll... don't you like me?

Elaborate

 

[kirexhana]

23, baby, you should widen your poll just a bit.

 

[Dunce]

apparently you need a Doogie option on the poll

 

[liverotcod]

No, you young'uns can just repeat a year or two until you fit in the poll.😉

 

[deleted77919]

I'll be 22. I don't fit on your poll... don't you like me?

In Australia one can enter medical school straight out of high school and complete it in as few as 5 years (I think . . .).

 

[Mr. McDuck]

29, baby. Woot.

 

[QofQuimica]

Feeling old and grumpy

Ha. I'm already older as an M1 than most of you will be when you graduate. 😉 I'll be 35 when I finish.

 

[johnnyb255]

In Australia one can enter medical school straight out of high school and complete it in as few as 5 years (I think . . .).

Yeah, we have both undergraduate and graduate entry medicine. The undergrad courses go for 5 or 6 years (most are 6, 3 years clinical in both and 2 or 3 pre-clin respectively), and the graduate for 4 years.

 

[Moto]

23, baby, you should widen your poll just a bit.

Who else thinks that U.S. medical schools should drop their 3 year college requirement and allow high school students to apply?

Those greedy, greedy bastards.

I don't mind expanding med school to 5 years to compensate for basic sciences.

 

[indo]

No. How much brain and personal development occurs during undergrad college?

 

[4chan]

Who else thinks that U.S. medical schools should drop their 3 year college requirement and allow high school students to apply?

Those greedy, greedy bastards.

I don't mind expanding med school to 5 years to compensate for basic sciences.

The truth entirely.
Start college:17
UnderGrad:20
MedSchool:24
(US :\)

 

[braluk]

Who else thinks that U.S. medical schools should drop their 3 year college requirement and allow high school students to apply?

Those greedy, greedy bastards.

I don't mind expanding med school to 5 years to compensate for basic sciences.

Medicine is already plagued as one of the careers with the highest suicide rates, getting rid of college might just make it jump up as none of us will have really decided with such conviction that we might wanna be doctors so early. Maybe foreign countries have more mature high school students who know what they want earlier, i wouldnt know, im still laughing at words such as pee and poo

 

[Ms. Lippy]

I'm 28 and an MS1 and anything having to do with the anus is hilarious. I don't know how you 18 year olds do it. But heck... you ein't gonna my by private part doctor. 😎

 

[Blade28]

I was 26 when I graduated.

 

[jonathon]

I see it more like this for the normal student.

Graduate from high school: 17-18
Graduate from undergrade: 21-22
Graduate from medical school: 25-26
4 year residency (with some varying): 29-30
Possible further training: 31-32
Practice medicine starting: 32-33 and practice for a good 25 to 30+ years

The truth entirely.
Start college:17
UnderGrad:20
MedSchool:24
(US :\)

 

[t33sg1rl]

I see it more like this for the normal student.

Graduate from high school: 17-18
Graduate from undergrade: 21-22
Graduate from medical school: 25-26
4 year residency (with some varying): 29-30
Possible further training: 31-32
Practice medicine starting: 32-33 and practice for a good 25 to 30+ years

This is even more off topic... but if you start practicing at 33, with 200K in debt, do you think that you will be able to pay off your debt, have a kid or two (and send them to college), buy an average house, and put enough in the 'ol 401K to retire at 63? (63 being the oldest retirement age on your chart) I had kind of assumed that I wouldn't be able to retire until my mid-70s, and I'm just two years behind your 'normal' timeline. I'm not a financial planner or anything, but it seems pretty ambitious.

 

[johnnyb255]

All the new medical schools in Australia are graduate courses, and in my opinion this would be because graduate students are generally more motivated. Not saying they make better doctors in the end, just that the students themselves REALLY want to be in med school and REALLY want to learn everything.

You can tell in the personalities, I'm doing undergrad so obviously my mates are undergrads too. We talk about anything but medicine, probably because most of us don't know enough about a topic to actually have a full conversation. But it really is 'work' or 'uni', it's not a vocation or a dream. It's just like doing law or engineering, you might have a cool day once in a while but overall you still love coming home and watching TV.

My girlfriend is graduate med, and her friends talk about nothing but medicine. It's amazing! But it makes sense, some of these people try for years and years to get in, actually being a med student is a priviledge they acknowledge everyday. It's in their eyes, you can tell they love what they do, they love what they learn.

Again, not saying one thing or another about better doctors, which is why we're all here in the end.

 

[little_late_MD]

This is even more off topic... but if you start practicing at 33, with 200K in debt, do you think that you will be able to pay off your debt, have a kid or two (and send them to college), buy an average house, and put enough in the 'ol 401K to retire at 63? (63 being the oldest retirement age on your chart) I had kind of assumed that I wouldn't be able to retire until my mid-70s, and I'm just two years behind your 'normal' timeline. I'm not a financial planner or anything, but it seems pretty ambitious.

Just doing some rough calculations, I came up with something like this for someone living in the state of Florida (my home state):

Yearly Gross Salary: 130,000 (I pulled this out of thin air)
Spouses Yearly Gross: 60,000
Total Yearly Gross: 180,000.
Monthly Combined Net Salaries: 11,000

Monthly Student Loan Payment (200K 7%/30yr): 1330
Monthly Mortgage, Tax, Insurance: 4000.00
Monthly Additional Expenses (utilities, food, car, etc): 3000.00
Total Monthly Expenses: 8330.00

Additional Monthly Surplus: $2670.00
Additional Yearly Surplus: $32,040.00

I'm not going to do the pre-tax 401K calculations, but I would say that you could in all likelihood retire after 30 or so years of working.

 

[Moto]

Just doing some rough calculations, I came up with something like this for someone living in the state of Florida (my home state):

Yearly Gross Salary: 130,000 (I pulled this out of thin air)
Spouses Yearly Gross: 60,000
Total Yearly Gross: 180,000.
Monthly Combined Net Salaries: 11,000

Monthly Student Loan Payment (200K 7%/30yr): 1330
Monthly Mortgage, Tax, Insurance: 4000.00
Monthly Additional Expenses (utilities, food, car, etc): 3000.00
Total Monthly Expenses: 8330.00

Additional Monthly Surplus: $2670.00
Additional Yearly Surplus: $32,040.00

I'm not going to do the pre-tax 401K calculations, but I would say that you could in all likelihood retire after 30 or so years of working.

Sweet calculation, but only works if you have a working spouse, where can I get one of those?

 

[little_late_MD]

Sweet calculation, but only works if you have a working spouse, where can I get one of those?

You can have mine😀 I kid I kid.

Or you can just pick a higher paying specialty. Or teach on the side. Or write a book. Or mow lawns on Sundays. 🙂

 

[Moto]

You can have mine😀 I kid I kid.

Or you can just pick a higher paying specialty. Or teach on the side. Or write a book. Or mow lawns on Sundays. 🙂

Ahh, man, I was hoping to actually have a life, finally. Would be funny to see in the classifieds:

"Broke new M.D. Wife spends. Refuses to get off her pampered ass and contribue. Need money- so will do.... stuff for money. "Stuff" negotiable"

 

[PEN15]

I'll be 22. I don't fit on your poll... don't you like me?

In Australia, it also takes longer to specialize. Whereas in the US you do 4 years of med school and then depending on your residency you do 3-5 more years of training. It can take a better part of a whole decade to become a surgeon in Australia after you're done med school. So I guess it all works out in the end. We're all going to be old when we start practicing on our own!

 

[DMB41]

I'll be 22. I don't fit on your poll... don't you like me?

no...no we don't!!


feeling really old and grumpy now!!

 

[medstud4]

Old and seemingly wise.

 

[pkwraith]

Third decade, baby. But at least I got to enjoy my early/mid twenties with money and time!

 

[Frazier]

Third decade, baby. But at least I got to enjoy my early/mid twenties with money and time!

+1

Sometimes I'm envious of those people that finish med school @ 24-25... but, at the same time, I'm really not envious of them at all. I have thoroughly enjoyed my time. 😀

 

[dsoz]

I don't fit on the upper end of your poll. I won't start until I am 42. I am the one that should feel old and grumpy. I will most likely be the oldest one in my class. I may even be older than some of the profs at med school.

let's see... 46 at graduation. 50 at the end of a 4 year residency, practice for 20 years... Qualify for medicare at 72 (if it still exists)...

The only bonus is that my kids are all grown and out of the house. My youngest will be off to college and my oldest will be doing post-grad work on a masters or PhD.

dsoz

 

[evilbooyaa]

I don't fit on the upper end of your poll. I won't start until I am 42. I am the one that should feel old and grumpy. I will most likely be the oldest one in my class. I may even be older than some of the profs at med school.

let's see... 46 at graduation. 50 at the end of a 4 year residency, practice for 20 years... Qualify for medicare at 72 (if it still exists)...

The only bonus is that my kids are all grown and out of the house. My youngest will be off to college and my oldest will be doing post-grad work on a masters or PhD.

dsoz

😱

 

[Postictal Raiden]

I don't fit on the upper end of your poll. I won't start until I am 42. I am the one that should feel old and grumpy. I will most likely be the oldest one in my class. I may even be older than some of the profs at med school.

let's see... 46 at graduation. 50 at the end of a 4 year residency, practice for 20 years... Qualify for medicare at 72 (if it still exists)...

The only bonus is that my kids are all grown and out of the house. My youngest will be off to college and my oldest will be doing post-grad work on a masters or PhD.

dsoz

👍

 

[Cinclus]

I'll be 28 when I graduate, which seems pretty standard. I'm one of the older ones in my class, however.

 

[notbobtrustme]

M1 as a 29 yr old and definitely not the oldest in my class. Seems like everyone here is older than 25.

 

[molarseeker]

Ill be 30 when I graduate. I'm a senior right now and I'm 24. Turn 25 in may. I am also taking a year off. So start medical school when 26

 

[dudeliness]

M1 as a 29 yr old and definitely not the oldest in my class. Seems like everyone here is older than 25.

Hey that's me. I turn 29 in march and start first year next fall. Got a wife and kid, and I think it's great being a little more "mature".

 

[urbanclassic]

Surprisingly a lot of people in my class (MS1s) are around my age. I'm 24. My friends range for 23-28... We're young, but not fresh out of college.

 

[CaptainHook]

i would be 28. i really wish there were integrated 5-6 yr undergrad-medical programs for people who know early they want to go into medicine.

 

[evilbooyaa]

i would be 28. i really wish there were integrated 5-6 yr undergrad-medical programs for people who know early they want to go into medicine.

There are 6-7 year ones, as I'm sure you know.