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at cvs, the scheduler usually send out list of opening shifts through email. please do not respond to it. please do not pick up extra shifts!

when you pick up extra shifts voluntarily, you are stealing jobs that could have been given to new hires. people desperately applying and trying to get a job, to pay bills, to pay student loans. 30 hours a week is 1 full time job that can be given to new hires.

they send this out every week. please do not pick up extra shifts. help to create more jobs, more hires. in my district, we have a lot of opening shifts, and people are picking up extra shifts like crazy mad. we could've hire 3 more pharmacists! we could've created 3 more jobs in our district alone!

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By cutting floater base pay they are creating more jobs. you can hire 4 30 hour pharmacist instead of 3 40 hour pharmacists.
 
Look out for number 1, that's what anyone else is doing. Opening another position means another person on benefits - companies don't just monitor the metric of payroll hours but many others like FTE and total expenses.
 
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Yeah, can't agree with your post. Do you know how many retail, hospital, independent, and mail-order pharmacies employ per diem pharmacists to pick up extra shifts? Lots-- there are a lot of pharmacists out there working more than 1 job. Just because you get a job doesn't mean financial issues and job security concerns go away.

There is a growing scarcity of jobs, but that just makes people want to pick up extra shifts and work 2nd jobs even more.
 
There is a growing scarcity of jobs, but that just makes people want to pick up extra shifts and work 2nd jobs even more.

exactly. scarcity exists because ppl are picking up extra shifts. we need to stop doing that so that more hours open up, more jobs open up. when there are hours available unfilled, they will hire more ppl. with each job opening, there is one less person unemployed. one less person in despair. when u steal those hours from them, they become hopeless.
 
exactly. scarcity exists because ppl are picking up extra shifts. we need to stop doing that so that more hours open up, more jobs open up. when there are hours available unfilled, they will hire more ppl. with each job opening, there is one less person unemployed. one less person in despair. when u steal those hours from them, they become hopeless.

They won't hire more jobs, they will hire more relief pharmacists with no benefits. Benefits= 30% plus of an employees overall cost. Companies aren't desperate, there will always be a new-graduate to take a job with no guarantees.
2nd, nobody is stealing hours. People are picking up shifts that were offered to them. When you go to a job interview do you try to look out for all the other candidates?
 
Interesting choice of words. I would advocate for new pharmacists to REFUSE to accept ANY job offers too. When you are hired by a company, you are stealing that job away from other new grads. If we all refuse to work it would cause a HUGE surplus in pharmacist jobs.
 
While your intentions are well founded, I fear that your methodology can't succeed. Our entire society is built on getting more than the other guy (sometimes at all cost depending on your level of morality). So we scope everything based on that aspect (including our healthcare) whether it makes any sense or not.

Because of that, I don't think your plan will work. It's like union busting. There's just too many needy workers for the union to succeed. Too many Pharmacists. Many with huge loans. Many who didn't even really want to be Pharmacists. It would only take a small percentage of them to say "Oh well, I'm going to jump that line for me and my family. I gotta work!". That coupled with the fact that these companies are constantly trying to minimize areas where they absolutely need a Pharmacist means that they'd only need a smaller and smaller percentage of people to break solidarity.

Also, I don't know if you can count on Health Care expansion at all anymore. It certainly can and will get more profitable for the companies, but I wouldn't assume any of that is going to trickle down to Pharmacists at all. All I've seen is companies cutting hours and thus reducing salaries and I don't expect that to get any better over the next few years.

The only sure solution is to minimize the number of Pharmacists. I've seen posts saying that applications are dropping, but obviously they are still getting enough bodies to fill the seats anyway. If you could come up with a plan that could make Pharmacy less of the goto backup for anyone who can't get into other things or somehow restrict it to people who actually really want to do it, then maybe you could more widespread support.

exactly. scarcity exists because ppl are picking up extra shifts. we need to stop doing that so that more hours open up, more jobs open up. when there are hours available unfilled, they will hire more ppl. with each job opening, there is one less person unemployed. one less person in despair. when u steal those hours from them, they become hopeless.
 
My retail district needs 4-5 FTE pharmacists. Not enough experienced applicants. Several applicants who did residency but have zero retail experience.

If we did this refusing to pick up shifts in my district we would have to close stores down. There aren't new grads or licensed Rphs with retail experience applying. We are recruiting interns as well but not much success.

And just for the record it is not a bad district to work in. Management is reasonable and works with us. We are not short staffed like some districts bc of incompetent management.


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at cvs, the scheduler usually send out list of opening shifts through email. please do not respond to it. please do not pick up extra shifts!

when you pick up extra shifts voluntarily, you are stealing jobs that could have been given to new hires. people desperately applying and trying to get a job, to pay bills, to pay student loans. 30 hours a week is 1 full time job that can be given to new hires.

they send this out every week. please do not pick up extra shifts. help to create more jobs, more hires. in my district, we have a lot of opening shifts, and people are picking up extra shifts like crazy mad. we could've hire 3 more pharmacists! we could've created 3 more jobs in our district alone!

Why should I care about another pharmacist getting a job when I could just work overtime and get more money?
 
OP lives in a fantasy world. You eat or get eaten.
No too long ago I worked an extra 42 hours (on top of my 41 base) in a week by picking up extra shifts.


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World doesn't work like that...

Can't imagine trying to raise a family on a 30 hours a week pay check, with student loans, and bills to pay.

How about asking new schools to close down or pharmacy leaders to stop being greedy... you'll get the same answer from them too: NO!
 
To be honest I don't really care about creating other pharmacist jobs at this point in my life. The information is out there about how bad the job market is at the moment, why should I care about a jobless new grad? If you're smart you'll make as much money as you can and GTFO of the profession.
 
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Go to the pre-pharm forum and tell students to stop giving money to greedy pharmacy schools and competing for our jobs when they graduate. Despite this being really in their own interest, see how far you'll get.

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Open shifts are more a symptom of difficulty hiring people than a cause of job scarcity. While someone "has" to work those shifts, I bet a hiring manager would rather have a surplus of RPH at 24 or 32 hours base per week.
 
If no one picks them up, the pharmacy managers or supervisors usually have to pick up the shifts.
 
Is he serious or trolling?
Likely serious; pretty weak trolling if so.

Honestly I used to think the same thing when I worked there. There are SO MANY open shifts, you would think they would hire some relief pharmacists or something.

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Likely serious; pretty weak trolling if so.

Honestly I used to think the same thing when I worked there. There are SO MANY open shifts, you would think they would hire some relief pharmacists or something.

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Yep, my sup always tells us he's desperate to have shifts covered. Meanwhile there are thousands of unemployed PharmDs.
 
A lot of pharmacists don't want to work retail anyway for good reason, and most would frankly be garbage in today's chain retail environment
 
Well, there are only so many vacation and overlap hours you can hire for...and everyone wants the same narrow time frames off of work. So if you hired enough floaters for summer and major holiday demand, then they would do nothing during the normal relief demand periods.

So if you want more people hired, stop taking all of your damned vacation time in the Summer and November/December.
 
Likely serious; pretty weak trolling if so.

Honestly I used to think the same thing when I worked there. There are SO MANY open shifts, you would think they would hire some relief pharmacists or something.

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No I don't doubt there are tons of open shifts. We always had HUGE holes in our district schedule when I worked for them. I mean with the whole "don't take extra money, leave the shifts for others". Why don't you just donate half your salary to an unemployed pharmd?
 
Just lower taxes, then we'd all have more money in our pockets and wouldn't have to fight over some shift in a crappy neighborhood an hour away.
 
Just lower taxes, then we'd all have more money in our pockets and wouldn't have to fight over some shift in a crappy neighborhood an hour away.

Lower taxes, lower theoretical amount govt has to spend on healthcare, lower amount spent by patients and payers = less pharmacies make, less pharmacists make. 😉

I can make anything into a circular loop. But kidding aside if federal taxes are lowered across the board my bet is you'll see wage stagnation or adjustment across many sectors. Companies know you're willing to do a certain job for a certain take home pay. They want to squeeze every ounce of "efficiency" out of you as possible.
 
Why don't you just donate half your salary to an unemployed pharmd?

i can donate half my salary, no problem. They just have to work for it, and i get to spend time off. this will also create more jobs.
 
I can make anything into a circular loop. But kidding aside if federal taxes are lowered across the board my bet is you'll see wage stagnation or adjustment across many sectors. Companies know you're willing to do a certain job for a certain take home pay. They want to squeeze every ounce of "efficiency" out of you as possible.

You think that lowering taxes is bad for the economy? It's actually scary that people believe this kind of stuff. What kind of brainwashing has led you to believe that the government forcefully taking your money is good for you?

Of course companies want to maximize efficiency and lower cost (unlike the government which is inherently inefficient). This is a core principle of free market economics. It means delivering a better product at a lower cost. Are you against this?
 
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the gov't is corrupt and inefficient. billions of dollars are tossed to foreign countries (third world countries) without valid reasons. our tax dollars are not spent the right way, and without oversight. military personels have gov't cards that use gov't money to pay for prostitutes. that and many more reasons tax should not be raised! the gov't will misuse tax dollars regardless how much tax you give them..... // in contrast lowering taxes will give consumer more spending power. the more consumers spend, the better the economy.
 
You think that lowering taxes is bad for the economy? It's actually scary that people believe this kind of stuff. What kind of brainwashing has led you to believe that the government forcefully taking your money is good for you?

Of course companies want to maximize efficiency and lower cost (unlike the government which is inherently inefficient). This is a core principle of free market economics. It means delivering a better product at a lower cost. Are you against this?

Yeah the government waste a lot of money like in healthcare which pays for your salary.

The majority of the money is controlled by the rich (top 1%) and the very rich (top 0.1%). You think giving $2M tax cut to someone who already has a net worth of $500M is going to somehow motivate this person to spend $2M in the economy? Give me a break.

That being said, I am doing pretty well and I am going to even do better with Trump tax plan. Do you know what I am going to do with that money? I am going to put it in my pocket.


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at cvs, the scheduler usually send out list of opening shifts through email. please do not respond to it. please do not pick up extra shifts!

when you pick up extra shifts voluntarily, you are stealing jobs that could have been given to new hires. people desperately applying and trying to get a job, to pay bills, to pay student loans. 30 hours a week is 1 full time job that can be given to new hires.

they send this out every week. please do not pick up extra shifts. help to create more jobs, more hires. in my district, we have a lot of opening shifts, and people are picking up extra shifts like crazy mad. we could've hire 3 more pharmacists! we could've created 3 more jobs in our district alone!

Despite what OP & some other toxic members of the forum believe, it isn't that hard to get a job, even in saturated markets, if you believe in yourself and work hard.

I think the truth is that they can't recognise that some people are just better at marketing themselves and interviewing
 
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Yeah the government waste a lot of money like in healthcare which pays for your salary.

The majority of the money is controlled by the rich (top 1%) and the very rich (top 0.1%). You think giving $2M tax cut to someone who already has a net worth of $500M is going to somehow motivate this person to spend $2M in the economy? Give me a break.

That being said, I am doing pretty well and I am going to even do better with Trump tax plan. Do you know what I am going to do with that money? I am going to put it in my pocket.


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I never said anything about the top 1%, I as a single pharmacist don't want to pay 35-40% in taxes. Are you illiterate?
 
I never said anything about the top 1%, I as a single pharmacist don't want to pay 35-40% in taxes. Are you illiterate?

What did I just tell you? The government is the biggest spender in healthcare. I will make this simple for you:

Less tax from the rich = less healthcare spending = your salary goes down.

Makes sense right? Oh by the way, a typical pharmacist will be probably save about 1% under Trump plan. So you are worrying about this 1% while you are OK with 5% cut in your salary.

This is why we shouldn't let subpar students into pharmacy school.


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What did I just tell you? The government is the biggest spender in healthcare. I will make this simple for you:

Less tax from the rich = less healthcare spending = your salary goes down.

Makes sense right? Oh by the way, a typical pharmacist will be probably save about 1% under Trump plan. So you are worrying about this 1% while you are OK with 5% cut in your salary.

This is why we shouldn't let subpar students into pharmacy school.


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Someone making $120,000 a year is not rich. I said lower MY taxes. I didn't say anything about "the rich" that you are actually obsessed with. You just can't stop thinking about some guy with 500 million dollars. It seems like it's actually destroying you as a person, you're probably on Prozac drooling on your keyboard. By your logic I should pay higher taxes just so I can have the opportunity to earn it back. Your an economic illiterate. In the United states we follow Adam Smith, not Carl Marx.

I'm guessing you also praise Castro for providing all Cuban citizens with healthcare? I'm sure their pharmacists make even more than you do. In fact I bet the average pharmacist salary is higher in every country that provides government funded healthcare. Why don't you move their and get rich? You can rake in all that government money that they are spending on healthcare. ****ing lunatic.
 
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Trump's plan is barely a tax cut. I liked Cruz better. In either case medicare is funded mostly by a flat medicare tax (seperate from federal income tax) and through premiums. So the idea that the top 1% is responsible for anything close to 5% in pharmacy profits is some kind of hallucination. Medicaid is a different story but is barely profitable and I'd honestly take a 5% pay cut just to not deal with some of these people.
 
This guy literally just said I shouldn't have been accepted into pharmacy school because I think pharmacists should pay less in taxes. Unbelievable stupidity.
 
This guy literally just said I shouldn't have been accepted into pharmacy school because I think pharmacists should pay less in taxes. Unbelievable stupidity.

So let me get this right...you want a republican president and a republican congress to just lower your tax and you don't expect them to lower rich people taxes as well? Where have you been?

Go open a book. Read what the republicans have wanted to do and have done **hint: Reagan years, gwb years.**

If you didn't get what I am telling you. Maybe this would help:

Lower taxes, lower theoretical amount govt has to spend on healthcare, lower amount spent by patients and payers = less pharmacies make, less pharmacists make. 😉.






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So let me get this right...you want a republican president and a republican congress to just lower your tax and you don't expect them to lower rich people taxes as well? Where have you been?

Go open a book. Read what the republicans have wanted to do and have done **hint: Reagan years, gwb years.**

If you didn't get what I am telling you. Maybe this would help:








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I want lower taxes for everyone across the board. You have bought into the illusion that total wealth is a finite number that only changes hands when in fact wealth can be created or destroyed. That's what people like you don't understand. Taxes hinder wealth creation, the private sector creates wealth and value, not the federal government. All you know how to do is demonize success, a central planner who wants to decide who has too much and who has too little. You're a throw back to every third world country that has ever existed.
 
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I want lower taxes for everyone across the board. You have bought into the illusion that total wealth is a finite number that only changes hands when in fact wealth can be created or destroyed. That's what people like you don't understand. Taxes hinder wealth creation, the private sector creates wealth and value, not the federal government. All you know how to do is demonize success, a central planner who wants to decide who has too much and who has too little. You're a throw back to every third world country that has ever existed.

So a subpar student is lecturing us about the economy. Tell you what..why don't you graduate, make some real money and then come back here and tell us how you did it.


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There are a lot of hypocrites in this world. They love to criticize government spending but that doesn't stop them from using and benefiting from it.

If you got financial aid..that is government spending.

If you put your adult children in your healthcare plan, that is Obamacare.

If you got 3.5% mortgage interest rate, that is because the fed has been keeping interest low.

You may not even be working right now if the government didn't spend this much money on healthcare. So give me a break about what you think America should be like.


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If you got financial aid..that is government spending.
If you put your adult children in your healthcare plan, that is Obamacare.
If you got 3.5% mortgage interest rate, that is because the fed has been keeping interest low.

financial aid is the reason tuition spikes exponentially. the school charge whatever amount for tuition, and whatever amount, is covered by financial aid, at a high interest rate. it allows tuition to keep pushing upward. does that even make sense? does it sound like a system with proper oversight? do u know of any other countries with college tuition hella expensive like this country?

Obamacare is another gov't failure. those in it pay hefty premiums. and then high deductibles. you're paying hundreds if not over a thousand a month for an "option" to pay a high deductible, before your insurance kicks in... this option is stupid. your company offers better than that. we're suppose to have a universal health system, not a marketplace for health insurance.

mortgage rate was low, home prices went up. mortgage rate is now going back up, home prices coming back down. market fundamentals. regardless of which country or gov't you're in.
 
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There are a lot of hypocrites in this world. They love to criticize government spending but that doesn't stop them from using and benefiting from it.

If you got financial aid..that is government spending.

If you put your adult children in your healthcare plan, that is Obamacare.

If you got 3.5% mortgage interest rate, that is because the fed has been keeping interest low.

You may not even be working right now if the government didn't spend this much money on healthcare. So give me a break about what you think America should be like.


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I don't get financial aid but if you are talking about student loans I agree, it's the reason for rising tuition. Would any bank hand over a suitcase of cash for someone to get an art degree? Hell no but the government will. It's simple supply and demand. If I offer everyone in the country a guaranteed loan, regardless of credit, income, or earning potential to buy a new phone what do you think will happen to phone prices? I'm sure you think that education benefits everyone and we need equality of opportunity but the fact is you have to look at the ROI. People are suffering because of stupid ideas like these, though it is in-part their own fault too for taking the money.

Mortgage rates and mandating children be able to stay on parents' insurance isn't federal spending, it's actually something called policy. Believe it or not policy and spending are two different things. I'm trying to educate you but you're too far gone for there to be a chance that you stop spewing ignorance.
 
So a subpar student is lecturing us about the economy. Tell you what..why don't you graduate, make some real money and then come back here and tell us how you did it.


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I'm not lecturing you, I'm educating you. I might not try that hard in school but it hasn't prevented me from sitting in the top 10% of my class.
 
I want lower taxes for everyone across the board. You have bought into the illusion that total wealth is a finite number that only changes hands when in fact wealth can be created or destroyed. That's what people like you don't understand. Taxes hinder wealth creation, the private sector creates wealth and value, not the federal government. All you know how to do is demonize success, a central planner who wants to decide who has too much and who has too little. You're a throw back to every third world country that has ever existed.

I've never really thought about it much but I have to say I agree. People forget that wealth is not a concrete number and free markets generate wealth. Like most socialists he has no response and has reverted to name calling. It really is a sad sight to see someone in this state of mind.
 
I don't get financial aid but if you are talking about student loans I agree, it's the reason for rising tuition. Would any bank hand over a suitcase of cash for someone to get an art degree? Hell no but the government will. It's simple supply and demand. If I offer everyone in the country a guaranteed loan, regardless of credit, income, or earning potential to buy a new phone what do you think will happen to phone prices? I'm sure you think that education benefits everyone and we need equality of opportunity but the fact is you have to look at the ROI. People are suffering because of stupid ideas like these, though it is in-part their own fault too for taking the money.

Mortgage rates and mandating children be able to stay on parents' insurance isn't federal spending, it's actually something called policy. Believe it or not policy and spending are two different things. I'm trying to educate you but you're too far gone for there to be a chance that you stop spewing ignorance.

The people who are complaining about easy access to student loans are the same people who only got accepted because pharmacy schools are popping up left and right.

I am pretty sure these are the same pharmacists who will later complain about not getting enough hours.




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I'm not lecturing you, I'm educating you. I might not try that hard in school but it hasn't prevented me from sitting in the top 10% of my class.

Right...you are such a good economist. You didn't even know there is a pharmacy saturation?

Yeah top 10% when your class is full of subpar students doesn't say much.


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Right...you are such a good economist. You didn't even know there is a pharmacy saturation?

Yeah top 10% when your class is full of subpar students doesn't say much.


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Try some Midol hehe 🤣
 
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Right...you are such a good economist. You didn't even know there is a pharmacy saturation?

Yeah top 10% when your class is full of subpar students doesn't say much.


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The subpar student just destroyed you, dismantled your arguments, and ate you for breakfast. Embarrassing if you want to know the truth.
 
The subpar student just destroyed you, dismantled your arguments, and ate you for breakfast. Embarrassing if you want to know the truth.

Sorry buddy but you are just another subpar student who got accepted because of easy access to student loans. You should thank your lucky stars Obama helped people like you or you and your 2.9 GPA would be cleaning test tubes for the rest of your life.

And here you are. Bashing the man who gave you a chance.

I am a recent graduate and am looking to apply this upcoming cycle. My adviser pretty much told me I have no chance and I am really hesitant about the whole process

Cum GPA ~ 3.1
Science/Math ~ 2.9-3.0 (Not really sure)
PCAT - 72 Composite (Walked in and took it with ABSOLUTELY no studying, going to retake and shoot for 85+)
Just started a job as a PharmTech and will have ~6 months experience when I apply. Can also job shadow my friend later on. Also a few other EC's such as preprofessional club and a few non pharmacy volunteering things

My grades have an upward trend (8 A's and 2 C's my last 2 semesters), but I really got killed in the upper levels/prereqs (C's in organic, biochem, immunology, A&P, Physics I) along with some B's in really easy GenEds (Psychology, History of Art, Theology, Philosophy)

Also have A's in classes like calculus, economics, gen chem, gen bio, botany, ornithology, ecology and many more

I'm worried that I have way too many C's and the fact that they are in the most important classes will give me no chance (7 C's in total)

I plan on applying to all of the Ohio schools along with the lower GPA schools based on this site http://pharmacy-schools.findthebest.com/

If I'm applying to sub par accredited schools (based on average accepted GPA) will I be lucky to get an interview or is it likely that I'll get a few invites? I really am unsure where I stand because I hear of people with a 2.8 getting 3 interviews and people with 3.4's applying to 10 schools and not getting into any




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Sorry buddy but you are just another subpar student who got accepted because of easy access to student loans. You should thank your lucky stars Obama helped people like you or you and your 2.9 GPA would be cleaning test tubes for the rest of your life.

And here you are. Bashing the man who gave you a chance.






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I'd bet my student loan balance I have a higher IQ, but I might not have to since you progressives want to pay it off for me. I'm just hoping you last that long at CVS, we need that tax money to subsidize my subpar ass. Remember to address by name and scan their card good buddy.
 
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