How would you react if you caught someone cheating off you?

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These doctors are cheating, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that doctors cheating on board exams has the foreseeable effect of killing people. Especially for radiologists:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us.../2012/02/03/griffin-prescription-cheating.cnn

Watch the entire clip. Clearly licensing organizations completely disagree with the people on this thread (and others) who say cheating is a victimless crime, that it's no big deal, and that not cheating puts one at a disadvantage.

How about this one:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7398476n

Is that victimless, too?

So when people engage in this sort of behavior, we should just ignore it, let them do what they want, and live and let live? Since they didn't shoot and murder anybody, I guess it's no big deal. 🙄

And I disagree that them cheating on their boards make them more likely to kill someone. They will forget a good amount of the minuta anyway as some of the board exams especially in gas and rads do test on things that never happen. And even if they do they likely will need to consult literature before hand because they will forget about it within a week.
So no, even if there is a small relationship it will be overshadowed my many other factors. So honestly this argument is null.
 
These doctors are cheating, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that doctors cheating on board exams has the foreseeable effect of killing people. Especially for radiologists:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us.../2012/02/03/griffin-prescription-cheating.cnn

Watch the entire clip. Clearly licensing organizations completely disagree with the people on this thread (and others) who say cheating is a victimless crime, that it's no big deal, and that not cheating puts one at a disadvantage.

How about this one:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7398476n

Is that victimless, too?

So when people engage in this sort of behavior, we should just ignore it, let them do what they want, and live and let live? Since they didn't shoot and murder anybody, I guess it's no big deal. 🙄

Seems like you're the one who might have some, um, challenges at work/in your career. An ability to prioritize and reasonably asses risk and consequences seems important for most things, including medicine.
 
And I disagree that them cheating on their boards make them more likely to kill someone. They will forget a good amount of the minuta anyway as some of the board exams especially in gas and rads do test on things that never happen. And even if they do they likely will need to consult literature before hand because they will forget about it within a week.
So no, even if there is a small relationship it will be overshadowed my many other factors. So honestly this argument is null.

You can't completely discredit an argument because you don't see validity in it. For instance I think it's a great argument.

Just saying.
 
Haha umm I'm not too sure what you're implying here Triage
Your lab partner probably took a photo to keep comparing after you turned it in. You have no evidence she copied stuff word for word. Now you want to go out of your way to get an IA on her record. That amounts to gunner +++ attitude. It's all around crappy. Way to ruin someone's life over nothing. Get over yourself. Your lab report probably wasn't even that good.

And seriously, we turned this argument into someone killing patients over a lab report? This board is full of irrational.
 
Woah!!! Read the original posts I gave it to her under the impression that she wanted to compare data, not take a pic and copy! Careful where you throw those accusations! Haha

It doesn't matter. You still supplied the material. In the end, this whole thread is pointless because you have no way to prove your story. She could have easily deleted the photo from her phone atm. She's probably not stupid to copy word for word (she shouldn't be in college if she is). It's your word against hers. You probably won't win the case.
 
You can't completely discredit an argument because you don't see validity in it. For instance I think it's a great argument.

Just saying.

Actually the Burden of research/statistical proof is on the opposition. I disagree because there is no evidence to tell me otherwise. It's simply good research....
 
Your lab partner probably took a photo to keep comparing after you turned it in. You have no evidence she copied stuff word for word. Now you want to go out of your way to get an IA on her record. That amounts to gunner +++ attitude. It's all around crappy. Way to ruin someone's life over nothing. Get over yourself. Your lab report probably wasn't even that good.

And seriously, we turned this argument into someone killing patients over a lab report? This board is full of irrational.

No no no Triage I saw her looking at the phone and then writing her discussion on a blank sheet in the bio lab manual. I know with 100% certainty that that was what she was doing. It's not because I'm a woman. Thanks.

And you have got to be kidding me. Did you even read the first page? I said I was NOT turning her in but wanted to know where to draw the line because she's done cheating stuff before with me. Why do you feel the need to be a presumptuous meanie all the time?

And where do you get off insulting my work? You need to get over yourself as well
 
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Your lab partner probably took a photo to keep comparing after you turned it in. You have no evidence she copied stuff word for word. Now you want to go out of your way to get an IA on her record. That amounts to gunner +++ attitude. It's all around crappy. Way to ruin someone's life over nothing. Get over yourself. Your lab report probably wasn't even that good.

And seriously, we turned this argument into someone killing patients over a lab report? This board is full of irrational.

Honestly I think no one even knows whats going on at this point. I thought she photographed the thing and then copied it word for word and then turned it in? If all she did was photograph it then the hell are we all even arguing about? Nothing was committed except being a bit rude.

Irrational fear is strong with the freshman this year.
 
Honestly I think no one even knows whats going on at this point. I thought she photographed the thing and then copied it word for word and then turned it in? If all she did was photograph it then the hell are we all even arguing about? Nothing was committed except being a bit rude.

Irrational fear is strong with the freshman this year.

I'm not a freshman and she copied it down. I dont know if it was word for word exactly (how would I know?) and don't know what to do because if it was too similar (probably is) in at risk.
 
No no no Triage I saw her looking at the phone and then writing her discussion on a blank sheet in the bio lab manual. I know with 100% certainty that that was what she was doing. It's not because I'm a woman. Thanks.

And you have got to be kidding me. Did you even read the first page? I said I was NOT turning her in but wanted to know where to draw the line because she's done cheating stuff before with me. Why do you feel the need to be a presumptuous meanie all the time?

Why are you asking us for moral and ethical advice again...? If it was on paper and ink and not printer paper / electronic then you've got nothing to fear. TAs also generally don't care, especially if they are not American. I tend to notice that only Americans really think of this stuff in black and white.
 
The one time I let someone copy my work (in HS).........They got an A, and I got a C 😕 I felt like Jesus w/ a gun was coming after me 🙂

OP, my advice is to ask if you can see their copy of the report once they get handed back. Then, if it's blatant copying, you can discuss your concerns with them.
 
Why are you asking us for moral and ethical advice again...? If it was on paper and ink and not printer paper / electronic then you've got nothing to fear. TAs also generally don't care, especially if they are not American. I tend to notice that only Americans really think of this stuff in black and white.

I'm not asking you for advice anymore, notice I stopped asking several pages ago I was simply explaining.

And I guess I'm out of luck, she's American 😉
 
I'm not a freshman and she copied it down. I dont know if it was word for word exactly (how would I know?) and don't know what to do because if it was too similar (probably is) in at risk.

They can't pursue you unless it is an electronic copy. A written paper has almost no risk and you can easily lawyer up and take down the offense.
Either way this is not cheating it's working together.
 
I'm not asking you for advice anymore, notice I stopped asking several pages ago I was simply explaining.

And I guess I'm out of luck, she's American 😉

Well if she's a graduate student then she probably is smart enough to know that this there is gray in life. This as opposed to the masses that actually believe there is something like a universal right or wrong...
 
Well if she's a graduate student then she probably is smart enough to know that this there is gray in life. This as opposed to the masses that actually believe there is something like a universal right or wrong...

I still think that regardless because she did so without my permission that makes this situation alone wrong. If she would've asked me I would've helped her but because she didn't ask and thought she was being sneaky that makes THIS situation wrong.

PS we can kill this thread at any point you guys want. I got my answer thank you all.
 
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I still think that regardless because she did so without my permission that makes this situation alone wrong. If she would've asked me I would've helped her but because she didn't ask and thought she was being sneaky that makes THIS situation wrong.

It was rude. Sneaky? Not really.
 
If possible, write up a bogus lab report (skewed results, incorrect findings, etc.) and let your lab partner "compare" her results. 😎
 
It was rude. Sneaky? Not really.

Yes, really. Taking a picture when I wasn't looking, handing back my report with a smile and thanking me for being able to compare data, and then trying to hide it on her phone and not simply asking me is sneaky.
 
I'm a bit confused by OP... In my labs its not a big deal if your partner has the same data -- at the end of the day you are working together on the exact same experiment so you should have the same numbers, same materials, same procedure, i guess maybe the conclusion should be different.
 
Yes, really. Taking a picture when I wasn't looking, handing back my report with a smile and thanking me for being able to compare data, and then trying to hide it on her phone and not simply asking me is sneaky.

She should've at least just asked if she can copy off of you. That would've been more respectable than doing it in a sneaky way.
 
I'm a bit confused by OP... In my labs its not a big deal if your partner has the same data -- at the end of the day you are working together on the exact same experiment so you should have the same numbers, same materials, same procedure, i guess maybe the conclusion should be different.

These labs we do an experiment and then a lot of individual work which has its own part of the discussion with different (although slightly different) conclusions etc. The experiment would be the same data, individual work, no.
 
These labs we do an experiment and then a lot of individual work which has its own part of the discussion with different (although slightly different) conclusions etc. The experiment would be the same data, individual work, no.

Oh okay! Well i think you should probably say something and just let her know that you are willing to let her COMPARE data but she cannot copy your individual work. Maybe you could write your individual work on a different sheet of paper.
 
Yes, really. Taking a picture when I wasn't looking, handing back my report with a smile and thanking me for being able to compare data, and then trying to hide it on her phone and not simply asking me is sneaky.

Perhaps you should practice tolerence and forgiveness. Reprisal and hate always injure the soul.
 
Perhaps you should practice tolerence and forgiveness. Reprisal and hate always injure the soul.

I don't think its reprisal and hate. She feels like she was taken advantage of under her own nose and i can understand that.

Its not a good feeling, and her partner as a grown woman should know better.
 
I don't think its reprisal and hate. She feels like she was taken advantage of under her own nose and i can understand that.

Its not a good feeling, and her partner as a grown woman should know better.

Thank you so much.. I really appreciate it. This is exactly right, I dont hate her at all I was more shocked and felt very taken advantage of. This is 100% right
 
Omg such theatrics. Please point out where I have "reprisal and hate"

Perhaps my word choice was a bit strong. My point is this hasn't hurt you in any tangible way. You are offended by her behavior and hopeful that she gets caught and i suspect you will be happy if she is caught (maybe reprisal is the right word). If she is cheating off you she won't get too far in life on her own. I don't see anything for you to gain by pursuing this or harboring the ill will that you do. So forgive her and move on.

I don't think its reprisal and hate. She feels like she was taken advantage of under her own nose and i can understand that.

Its not a good feeling, and her partner as a grown woman should know better.

She should know better yes. My point was that she should not let her feelings motivate actions that may have a profound impact of the other person. One day she might even regret selling out a fellow student.

It's important to recognize the value of forgivenss and being the bigger person here. There is nothing to be gained here. She has learned what this person is about and now she can avoid her. I would consider it an oppertunity cost.
 
I'd just be careful next time and and tell the person to please avoid doing that in the future.
 
Perhaps my word choice was a bit strong. My point is this hasn't hurt you in any tangible way. You are offended by her behavior and hopeful that she gets caught and i suspect you will be happy if she is caught (maybe reprisal is the right word). If she is cheating off you she won't get too far in life on her own. I don't see anything for you to gain by pursuing this or harboring the ill will that you do. So forgive her and move on.



She should know better yes. My point was that she should not let her feelings motivate actions that may have a profound impact of the other person. One day she might even regret selling out a fellow student.

It's important to recognize the value of forgivenss and being the bigger person here. There is nothing to be gained here. She has learned what this person is about and now she can avoid her. I would consider it an oppertunity cost.

I didnt read ALL posts, but i believe she said she was not going to tell the TA, she simply wants to know is she should approach her or not.

And im going to just say this, this semester we had take home quizzes and my partner wanted to copy one of my graphs that i did with my own data.. nothing to do with him or lab. He wanted my graph and he wanted me to do it for him. I simply told him no i was not going to do it but i would show him how to do it. He didnt want to be taught -- his problem. We remained partners, and maybe its a small thing but if i lasted 30 minutes breaking my head trying to do this quiz and he spends 10 minutes copying--- not happening in my book. Everyone has to work hard-- we are all trying to get somewhere in life and no one is going to hand out the work easy.

Maybe this wasn't such a big deal but everyone is making it bigger than it is. She simply asked for advice as to what to do. You come here and become judgemental, no need for that just tell her what you think she should do with out insulting her at the same time.
 
I didnt read ALL posts, but i believe she said she was not going to tell the TA, she simply wants to know is she should approach her or not.

And im going to just say this, this semester we had take home quizzes and my partner wanted to copy one of my graphs that i did with my own data.. nothing to do with him or lab. He wanted my graph and he wanted me to do it for him. I simply told him no i was not going to do it but i would show him how to do it. He didnt want to be taught -- his problem. We remained partners, and maybe its a small thing but if i lasted 30 minutes breaking my head trying to do this quiz and he spends 10 minutes copying--- not happening in my book. Everyone has to work hard-- we are all trying to get somewhere in life and no one is going to hand out the work easy.

Maybe this wasn't such a big deal but everyone is making it bigger than it is. She simply asked for advice as to what to do. You come here and become judgemental, no need for that just tell her what you think she should do with out insulting her at the same time.

It wasnt my intention to insult her. And I'm not defending the bevaior of the other person. But the person who is cheating is the one who has to sleep with it at night. Approach her? Only if she is 100% certain but then again I don't see anything to be gained.
 
It wasnt my intention to insult her. And I'm not defending the bevaior of the other person. But the person who is cheating is the one who has to sleep with it at night. Approach her? Only if she is 100% certain but then again I don't see anything to be gained.

Understood. 👍
 
When you get into your 20's, everyone knows how they feel about what is cheating and what the appropriate response is, and there's no point trying to convince each other that our definition is correct.
 
No no no Triage I saw her looking at the phone and then writing her discussion on a blank sheet in the bio lab manual. I know with 100% certainty that that was what she was doing. It's not because I'm a woman. Thanks.

And you have got to be kidding me. Did you even read the first page? I said I was NOT turning her in but wanted to know where to draw the line because she's done cheating stuff before with me. Why do you feel the need to be a presumptuous meanie all the time?

And where do you get off insulting my work? You need to get over yourself as well
To say all women would be wrong, but my experience is that this catty attitude toward looking at a lab report or something like that usually happens with girls.

If she's cheated off you, why do you keep letting her? Look, just let it be. Nobody is getting in trouble. Who cares if she cheats? And if honestly it bothers you so much, just talk with her about it. Making big deal out of nothing sucks.
 
To say all women would be wrong, but my experience is that this catty attitude toward looking at a lab report or something like that usually happens with girls.

If she's cheated off you, why do you keep letting her? Look, just let it be. Nobody is getting in trouble. Who cares if she cheats? And if honestly it bothers you so much, just talk with her about it. Making big deal out of nothing sucks.

Finally something we agree on haha
 
Thanks for the advice, it's just really frustrating because I worked on my report for several hours, she copied mine and had hers done in about twenty minutes; and as I was slaving away last night she was hitting up the town and we are probably going to get to same grade.

I'm sorry if I sound childish, maybe it's the stress of finals or something. I don't want to be petty and am not going to turn her in, but I just don't know where I draw the line on this stuff. Now she's copied a lab report and I've caught her on some quizzes. For next time I guess I'm going to have to just address it early on and right away in a neutral way.

wtf?The chick copies off your quizzes too? Tell her to go do her own damn work, or at least PAY you in the very least...

DON'T tell the teacher, instead tell her that you think it's not fair that you do all the work and she just copies off you. She's one of those people who I wouldn't want to be my doctor. Don't make it a big deal though, or else it'll be very awkward between you guys.
 
Why do people still say cheaters? I thought the word was cheat, like "you're a dirty cheat". It just bugs me.

Oh, nevermind. Apparently it was added to the webster dictionary.
 
You're logic is equivalent to saying: this guy killed a mosquito, why not dogs and cats, and what's going to stop him from killing people next?

Cheating is wrong and it is not ok, but you are way, way, way too rigid and draconian about this.

You sound like you judge people way too harshly, that's not a good trait in med school, or residency.

See how this works?

"You will never trust him again?" That is absolutely insane logic.

No ... it's more like saying, this guy killed a mosquito during undergrad, then he later killed a mosquito during med school, and again during residency, and again when we were in private practice together. Except the "mosquito" he killed was was really data he falsified, and and our practice was sued by the family of a dead patient or we were audited by the IRS. I'm not saying cheating on a lab report progresses to murdering cute plump babies. But I am saying seemingly minor cheating is likely to happen as part of a sustained pattern, and that cheating at later stages in our education/career can have very severe consequences.

P.S. It's trust is easy to lose and almost impossible to get back. That's just the way it is.

wow, another cheating/ethics thread. Haven't seen this in a while...no sarcasm either. I really don't have an opinion one way or the other when it comes to cheats, unless their actions are detrimental to me/others it's really not that big of a deal.

That's the point, teh OP is potentially liable here. Usually my profs just lump people together who have similar essays/reports and fail them both. It's just easier that way.

-Learn your lesson. YOU CHEATED JUST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER PERSON BECAUSE YOU LET HER SEE YOUR REPORT.
-Next time don't let the same person copy your report.
-No one likes a snitch. Karma is a b*tch.

1. Lol wat? You have to really try to cheat. The cheater didn't just wantonly gaze at the lab report for a few seconds and try to remember as much of it as possible for later reference. There was a camera involved, and verbatim copying, too, if I remember correctly. According to your logic, if someone sitting behind you during a class leans forward and puts her head on your shoulder to look at your test, it's your fault for not guarding your test better?

2. Please do not invoke 'karma.' There is no such thing. The OP should notify the TA, and it is THE TA'S DECISION whether this was a big incident. Many of you are saying that academics don't care about this kind of "minor" cheating. Well, if that's the case, the OP should just tell the TA, thereby covering her own tail, and let the chips fall where they may. The TA, if your theory is right, really won't care.
 
That's tough. I'd probably report that person if they're nothing more than a partner.
 
No ... it's more like saying, this guy killed a mosquito during undergrad, then he later killed a mosquito during med school, and again during residency, and again when we were in private practice together. Except the "mosquito" he killed was was really data he falsified, and and our practice was sued by the family of a dead patient or we were audited by the IRS. I'm not saying cheating on a lab report progresses to murdering cute plump babies. But I am saying seemingly minor cheating is likely to happen as part of a sustained pattern, and that cheating at later stages in our education/career can have very severe consequences.

P.S. It's trust is easy to lose and almost impossible to get back. That's just the way it is.



That's the point, teh OP is potentially liable here. Usually my profs just lump people together who have similar essays/reports and fail them both. It's just easier that way.



1. Lol wat? You have to really try to cheat. The cheater didn't just wantonly gaze at the lab report for a few seconds and try to remember as much of it as possible for later reference. There was a camera involved, and verbatim copying, too, if I remember correctly. According to your logic, if someone sitting behind you during a class leans forward and puts her head on your shoulder to look at your test, it's your fault for not guarding your test better?

2. Please do not invoke 'karma.' There is no such thing. The OP should notify the TA, and it is THE TA'S DECISION whether this was a big incident. Many of you are saying that academics don't care about this kind of "minor" cheating. Well, if that's the case, the OP should just tell the TA, thereby covering her own tail, and let the chips fall where they may. The TA, if your theory is right, really won't care.

and your version of universal order and function is a better alternative? :laugh:
 
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You know, I don't claim to be a mind reader, or know why people make the rules they make. But I feel completely confident in my assertion that that's not why plagiarism, cheating, and academic dishonesty are prohibited.

At least, not at any institution of higher learning that places any value on the degrees they confer. Every. Single. Class. I have taken has included a deathly serious discussion of cheating and the consequences. It's in the syllabus. It's talked about on the first day. We're reminded before/during exams, and as papers and projects come due. Every year begins with a department meeting where the chair explains that people cheat all the time, they get caught, and they get unceremoniously cashiered into a failing grade. And yes, professors at my school have informed students more than once that they will receive a failing grade on any plagiarized assignment (including a simple lab report).

Where do you go to school? Ivy League? University of Phoenix?

Yes. Im a physics major at the university of Phoenix. The pop up lab they send is a little cumbersome in my my living room, and the generator is a bit loud. It can be hard to hear my lab partner on skype. But I've gotten used to the giant magnets that pulled my fridge across the room.
 
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Oh don't get silly and turn her in or talk to her about it! Here's what you do:

Make a second lab report for the next lab that contains incorrect answers that are not too noticeably incorrect. You offer her that casualandover your own and say "ugh this was such a pain to do.... Is yours done? Here look at mine it will save you so much time"

Done. Once should be enough but I'd go with twice so she really gets the message.

I frequently leave scratch paper in a visible spot on my desk during exams that has incorrectly done stuff on it. It's a dog eat dog world out there....

My friend had a bad partner for digital signal processing lab. This guy never did homework. Before it was due, the guy would call my friend and want to compare answers over the phone or he would just out right copy the homework. My friend is a nice guy and in the beginning let the dude copy the homework, but eventually it became obvious that the guy did not know anything about the class and was lazy. So to see exactly how clueless this guy was, my friend decided to make a separate homework that had 6 instead of the 5 problems with completely made up nonsense answers

One of the answers was based around a triangular-squariodal-wave.At first the guy was a little skeptical, but my friend made up some more bs and made him believe it. I just cant believe that this guy was stupid enough to not even know the correct number of problems or the fact that my friend made up random words and numbers on problems that did not even exist.

Anyways this kid actually copied the homework and turned it in...and I think you know how the grade turned up.
 
You know what, if somebody steals my work and turns it in as his/her own, IT'S MY BUSINESS. Stealing is stealing is stealing, whether it's a wallet, a car, or my ideas and/or work product. Do you have any idea what happens to people and companies "in the real world" when they steal ideas/work and present them as their own

👍 I have the same mentality. Call me a boy scout, tattletale, whatever. It all comes down to integrity (not "resourcefulness"). My Junior year, I saw a guy using his cell phone to cheat during a Cell Bio exam. I instantly told the professor when I turned in my exam. This guy wanted to be a high school biology teacher. He can't even put in the effort to learn the structure and function of organelles, and he thinks he's going to educate someone else? We wonder why our public education system blows...

Not to mention you're the only one who would care unless someone stole a 20 pg paper of yours or something and even then I'm not sure I'd go to war over that.

Of course, she cares! She put in the work for it. Cheating is cheating. Be it a quiz or final. Of course, there are different degrees that warrant different levels of attention. I wouldn't turn in the other student over a lab report or HW. I would confront them though.Things like this get out of hand quickly and before long, the classmate will expect help on exams, too. Nip this in the bud.

There are degrees of cheating. I had a 3 hour quantum III exam this morning and the second the prof stepped out for a second phones were on deck looking stuff up. Is that unethical? No. Because you have to know what you need to look up in the first place. It's just the way it IS. And the professor doesn't care. It's not that big of a deal. He'd care if some Butters brought it to his attention in front if the whole class bc then he'd be in the position of having to break the "rules" himself or administer a new exam. In which case Id be the first one to throw a girly punch out back after class.

Says you with no moral compass.....

Wow, you and sotto are like diametric opposites, and your position is so much worse than his.

He is wrong because he apparently wants to execute anyone who cheats, and you are wrong because cheating is not at all about "navigating waters." It's wrong. It's unethical. Tests are about competence exams, and if you cheat, your competence is not being properly examined. ESPECIALLY for medical school, where competence can mean life or death.

Sotto is wrong because he is being too harsh, but his views insofar as the unethicalness of cheating are 100% correct.

Cheating. Is. Unethical.

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-Learn your lesson. YOU CHEATED JUST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER PERSON BECAUSE YOU LET HER SEE YOUR REPORT.
-Next time don't let the same person copy your report.
-No one likes a snitch. Karma is a b*tch.

Cheated just as much? Because she let the classmate look over the report? No. That's like pimping a friend before an exam to clarify topics/details. If it helps them catch errors before they turn it in, it's fair. OP was trying to help. Not carry. Karma? I would think cheating and getting busted would be karma.....no?

No ... it's more like saying, this guy killed a mosquito during undergrad, then he later killed a mosquito during med school, and again during residency, and again when we were in private practice together. Except the "mosquito" he killed was was really data he falsified, and and our practice was sued by the family of a dead patient or we were audited by the IRS. I'm not saying cheating on a lab report progresses to murdering cute plump babies. But I am saying seemingly minor cheating is likely to happen as part of a sustained pattern, and that cheating at later stages in our education/career can have very severe

^This. We are all adults. If you have no integrity and always choose the easiest path in order to "get beyond the hurdles to med school", I have news for you, you'll continue that behavior until you face consequences. OP would actually do the cheater a favor by teaching her a lesson early while the punishment isn't a lawsuit.

My friend had a bad partner for digital signal processing lab. This guy never did homework. Before it was due, the guy would call my friend and want to compare answers over the phone or he would just out right copy the homework. My friend is a nice guy and in the beginning let the dude copy the homework, but eventually it became obvious that the guy did not know anything about the class and was lazy. So to see exactly how clueless this guy was, my friend decided to make a separate homework that had 6 instead of the 5 problems with completely made up nonsense answers

One of the answers was based around a triangular-squariodal-wave.At first the guy was a little skeptical, but my friend made up some more bs and made him believe it. I just cant believe that this guy was stupid enough to not even know the correct number of problems or the fact that my friend made up random words and numbers on problems that did not even exist.

Anyways this kid actually copied the homework and turned it in...and I think you know how the grade turned up.

This is clever. 👍
 
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