This is the main reason why she was a genius. Every other thing you said was just icing on the cake.
It's not impossible but very hard to get in straight out of school. If you are interested in Army Endo residency, I would recommend doing 1 year AEGD. Army Endo residency is not as hard as getting into a civilian program. I believe on average there are about 30-40 applicants for 7 spots versus 200+ applicants for 3-5 spots in the civilian sector. I am currently in process of ETSing after 5 years of service and starting a civilian endo residency. You are welcome to PM me if you have any questions.
Statistically you are correct. However, most of those 30-40 applicants have exactly the same resume/ CV as you. Some have better scores, some have worse. Some have better experience and letters, some have worse. Some have put in more “military work” than you, some less. But most all competitive in service applicants have served for a little while, made connections, dabbled in endo, done operational tours, and made a name for themselves. If you are on the bottom of the “in service” list, you are still likely on the top of the civilian residency list. I was Navy, but there is no way I would have gotten in “in service” just due to not being military motivated enough. Maybe at some point if I was super motivated to stay in, but you have to the military mindset. However, when I applied outservice, I was offered interviews at 9/11 schools I applied to and got in after my first interview. So in my opinion, as military, the general candidate is much more competitive while applying to civilian residences than active duty residencies.
While I was in the Navy, I know they took someone straight from dental school. The catch? He was a Marine Corps fighter pilot for like 8 years before dental school. Like @FutureDent020 said, I’d just put in my time, get out, and use the GI Bill for a civilian program.
It varies by the branch but for the Navy, Endo is one of the most popular specialties(compared to others) and they receive a lot of applicants each cycle for very few spots(around 15-20+ applicants for 4 spots but every one gets an interview). Statistically speaking civilian Endo residency is harder to get into (150-200 applications) for 2-5 spots and interviews are not guaranteed. However, I do agree that military residencies have also gotten a lot more competitive recently. If you happen to apply on a year where there are a lot of Endodontists separating and fewer number of applicants then you may get lucky and get in even with not so good stats.
how many interviews? did you get in?
Residency admission committees typically do not have to follow the strict criteria such as GPA, DATs that dschool committees do. Most of the residency committees are also much smaller compared to dschool admission committees. Residency committes just have 1-2 faculty such as director and chair . As a result, Residency director/ chair basically have the power to accept or reject candidates on the spot. Military folks have very unfair advantage when applying to civilian programs. Some directors with military backgrounds will pick the military guys with decent stats over some civilian guys with way better stats.
I think you just have bad luck or didn’t apply broadly. Maybe beef up your letters of Rec?
Late reply, but do you know how competitive they were as D4s?
Some have yellow ribbon, some don't. You can look up which school has yellow ribbon. And make sure the department/school is dentistry. For example - University of southern California - Dental school
It's 3 years for Army... Idk about navy or air force.
Lol I know exactly who you are talking about. Listen to @Big Time Hoosier and @FutureDent020 . We all did the HPSP and are specializing in our respective fields in the civilian sector.
Will be joining you all in 2 years! Albeit in ortho
The ADSO for army endo residency is 3 years for a 2 year program?
Still not worth it if you get the G.I. bill. I hope you can concurrently pay back HPSP and residency if you get in before obligated service is up.
