I don't know if I want to be a pharmacist?

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Should I just waste 4 years and finish my pharmD and pursue my dream of becoming a creative director(very competitive! need 7 to 10 years of experience) after I graduate pharmacy(I'll be 23) but do you think I will not have enough time.

Or should I switch to marketing right away and go in a one path direction without pharmacy as my backup and work my ass off to make it. Btw my sister is a going to be a doctor so I have a lot of pressure to become a pharmacist. DO you think it is a good idea to drop everything I have worked for pharmacy and my scholarship to pursue something I am passionate about that I will face a lot of failures a long the way and not make as much money as I want to and have my family give me crap for a very long time?


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Wasting 4 years of your life sounds like the worst idea ever. If you love marketing, go for it. You won't be a creative director for a loooong time, but if you love something, you love even the crappy jobs associated with it. Letting your parents pressure you into something you hate will just make you resent them. Life's too short to do something you hate. Your parents will get over it.

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Doing something you hate for money you love will make you miserable.

But doing something you love for money you hate can too... Only you, OP, know your priorities. For me, I'd rather do something I kind of hate / dislike for good money so that I can enjoy my off-time (and make what I love into a strong hobby or two) as opposed to working my teeth to the bone doing something I love for minimal pay.

For me, the trade-off isn't tenable. If you can be OK with low double digits hourly for a decade while you work up to becoming a "creative director," then by all means go for it. But don't have any delusions of the job market right now. There's a highly likelihood you'll be working at Taco Bell or waiting tables at Applebee's while you try to find a job in "marketing."

Many people idealize an alternative career (a grand example of "grass is greener" syndrome) for many reasons: It's easier, it's faster to get INTO the work force (many people including myself hate not earning a stable paycheck, like in school, it's always FinAid and temp jobs, etc), you "love" doing it, etc.

OP, a hypothetical. You presumably didn't know you hated pharmacy until you started working in pharmacy. Likewise, you don't know if you'll hate "marketing" until you do it, and by then, maybe you'll wish you hadn't left the nice Pharm.D program. Our brains work in funky ways.

I vote that you stick it out and keep moving forward. There are many facets to pharmacy and the Pharm.D is extremely flexible / versatile. If you're an entrepeneur, you'll find a use for your Pharm.D. If you're creative, you'll find a use for your Pharm.D. The bottom line is, it's a much more marketable degree than an MBA is (barring an MBA from the best programs in the country and even then, Harvard B school isn't even placing grads all the time...) and offers you greater control over your life.
 
pharmagirl15,
First and foremost, you need to make up your mind before you do anything!! And if you haven't already done so, shadow each one of those professionals to help you decide (volunteering would be even better). Even look at the curriculum of those programs if it can be of any help. Try to find out as much as you can about your top picks because every profession has its drawbacks. Dropping out of the pharmacy program and then later deciding what you want may not be in your best interest.

What I understand from your posts is that you are a second year pre-pharmacy student (even if you are in a 0-6 program). You are probably taking many of the prerequisites for most of the schools you mentioned. Although those classes are foundations of what you will learn in pharmacy school, they don't necessarily represent the course material (A&P and micro may be the exceptions). So if you want to apply to other professional schools (not business school), you have to do well in the rest of your pre-req. courses.

Your parents raised you and want the best for you because they love you. So I am sure they will eventually come around. Please remember that things don't always go as planned in life. You have to be practical in whatever decision you make because one day you will have a family to support and take care of. Choose wisely.
 
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Can someone tell me what working in pharmacy industry is like (if you have a PharmD and you are working for like Johnson and Johnson or GlaxoSmithKline)? Or what kind of input do you have(with a PharmD) with a marketing team in industry? How much do you make in industry and does it feel a lot more rewarding than retail? People working in retail, what is that like?
 
Can someone tell me what working in pharmacy industry is like (if you have a PharmD and you are working for like Johnson and Johnson or GlaxoSmithKline)? Or what kind of input do you have(with a PharmD) with a marketing team in industry? How much do you make in industry and does it feel a lot more rewarding than retail? People working in retail, what is that like?

I don't work for a drug company but I do work for a large healthcare organization and there is a lot of emphasis on marketing. There are PharmDs involved in making up the (clinical content) materials, presenting, and selling for my division. Not so much in market research or visual production. However I could definitely see a place for someone with specialized skills in marketing + the clinical degree--right now there is no one directly matching that description here so I couldn't give you a real-life example.
 
Drop out now I don't see how you are going to live the rest of your life in a job you really hate. Kind of like in my situation but I switched after the first semester of college. My grandparents/parents wanted me to be a Nurse Anesthetist like my mother who passed away. At first I was going to do that to make them proud but after many hours of volunteering in a nursing setting, I HATED it, it's disgusting, you feel like a bitch and most of all, there is little interaction with drugs and way to much interaction with patients, I switched to a pharmacy path last year and I'm loving it. So IMO do what you love to do, remember it's your life and you decide what to do with it.

I feel the same way you did. I am a current nursing student who is beginning to think it isn't the right career path for me. I am just about halfway through it, and with only a year left I am thinking about switching to a Bio degree with a health science concentration and then perhaps to pharmacy school. Many people have told me that I should stick it out and graduate with my BSN, but I really don't enjoy clinicals at all and direct patient care did not come as easy as I thought it would. I was thinking pharmacy would be more suited to me. Anyone have any advice?
 
Do what you think will make you happy. If not, then you are going to spend the rest of your life regretting it.
 
Can someone tell me what working in pharmacy industry is like (if you have a PharmD and you are working for like Johnson and Johnson or GlaxoSmithKline)? Or what kind of input do you have(with a PharmD) with a marketing team in industry? How much do you make in industry and does it feel a lot more rewarding than retail? People working in retail, what is that like?

I work in both industry and retail (just started so I won't comment on this). The potential for growth in industry is limitless. The majority of PharmD's in industry are either in Medical Affairs or Drug Safety/Pharmacovigilance. You can be an MSL and you would work very closely with marketing. I think of an MSL as similar to a pharm sales rep but with very in depth clinical knowledge that engages in discussions with key opinion leaders, and have more freedom to talk about off-label stuff..

There is an industry thread that talks about other opportunities. Right now a growing area in industry is Health Outcomes, which usually requires a MS in addition to your pharmD. From my understanding, that area focuses a lot on the reimbursement side of things.

In terms of salary, there are lots of variables (size of the company, years of experience, current position level, etc). Look to start out anywhere between 80-100k as an associate/specialist level. Managers make make anywhere from 120-160k. Directors and beyond - many make over 200k (before bonus).
 
I work in both industry and retail (just started so I won't comment on this). The potential for growth in industry is limitless. The majority of PharmD's in industry are either in Medical Affairs or Drug Safety/Pharmacovigilance. You can be an MSL and you would work very closely with marketing. I think of an MSL as similar to a pharm sales rep but with very in depth clinical knowledge that engages in discussions with key opinion leaders, and have more freedom to talk about off-label stuff..

There is an industry thread that talks about other opportunities. Right now a growing area in industry is Health Outcomes, which usually requires a MS in addition to your pharmD. From my understanding, that area focuses a lot on the reimbursement side of things.

In terms of salary, there are lots of variables (size of the company, years of experience, current position level, etc). Look to start out anywhere between 80-100k as an associate/specialist level. Managers make make anywhere from 120-160k. Directors and beyond - many make over 200k (before bonus).
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Totally agree. The MBA degree gets you very little in terms of marketability and salary. Especially from lower ranked MBA programs.

Wait a minute! You posted this 3 years ago?!? I would have never thought.
 
MSL doesn't take new grads though, i highly doubt they even take residency trained people until you get some real experience. a couple of our professor went to MSL, all residency trained, published lots, professorship blah blah and teaching. you dont just go into msl but i could be wrong lol
 
MSL doesn't take new grads though, i highly doubt they even take residency trained people until you get some real experience. a couple of our professor went to MSL, all residency trained, published lots, professorship blah blah and teaching. you dont just go into msl but i could be wrong lol

The most direct route would probably be to do a fellowship to become an MSL. Otherwise, you would need at least a few years of experience working in industry or related clinical area. Keep in mind, it is not very easy to be an MSL. You need to have certain qualities aside from clinical knowledge...including leadership skills, assertiveness, amazing communication skills..you have to be able to engage in very high level discussions with thought leaders
 
Speaking as someone trying to transition to Pharmacy after working in the Art Market, I suggest you take time to really gauge how passionate you are before pursuing a creative job.
Please note that I don't mean to scare you off. A creative job is fun and rewarding, but it is fundamentally very different from Pharmacy and the 5 other job options you listed. All the jobs you listed are not easy to prepare for, but working in advertising is probably the most unpredictable with the least job security. The question is whether you think the job is worth it.
I worked as the creative director at an upscale gallery right out of college. I loved my work – picking out the theme & artworks for exhibitions, making marketing materials, interviewing artists, putting together the catalog for each exhibition… but my salary? Not even 25k in a high expense city. But I was extremely lucky to have this job at all – after all, this is in an industry where PhDs compete for the job to clip tickets at an art museum.
I lasted two years. The thing about having a competitive and glamorous job is that I had to be ahead of everyone else and upkeep appearances, even when I was scraping by with rent and basic living expenses. Those PhDs clipping museum tickets? They were applying to internships at my gallery. It didn't take me long to realize I was easily replaceable.
Working weekends was a given, and I took night classes in Art History and German to stay ahead of the people I was managing. In order to save money for classes, I stopped meeting up with my friends as often because it usually meant going out (which costs money) and eventually began to skip meals. Although I felt proud to be doing what I love, my efforts did not guarantee that I would ever move up the ladder. So yeah, I was pretty lonely and crappy most of the time.
Perhaps my example is a little different because it is in Fine Arts, but the general trend for creative jobs is that it is very competitive and unpredictable. There is no objective track where you get the degree, pass the test, and then be qualified. However, it also means you have the flexibility to forage your way as creatively as you want. For me, I realize I am much happier in structured environments, now that I've moved onto other fields (I work in pharmaceutical marketing with plans to go to Pharmacy school).
You probably already know this, but in order to become a "creative director for commercial ads" you would first need experience in all facets of advertising (copy, art, & media). The easiest way to get the entry level advertising jobs is to first build a portfolio, probably from art or ad school, then complete some internships in the field. I suggest you check out advertising programs at art and ad schools, and speak with career counselors there if you haven't already.
Most importantly, ask yourself if you have the right personality - In fields as subjective as the arts, people love to hate your ideas. Do you have strong opinions (ability stand up for your work when everyone else disagrees) but have the people skills to cajole clients & superiors? Do you thrive with change? And I guess, this is a given – do you have a good eye?
If all of this points to you following your no. 1 passion and that's what you absolutely have to do in this life, then go for it. But if you have even a little bit of hesitation, I'd say you will avoid a lot of stress & pain by sticking with your current program (or at least, within the health industry).
Good luck!
 
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I like how the original poster said she didn't want to work behind the counter and in retail. However, with how impossible it is to even find work, most of us we will not be given a choice and will be lucky to end up with a job in retail.
 
The most direct route would probably be to do a fellowship to become an MSL. Otherwise, you would need at least a few years of experience working in industry or related clinical area. Keep in mind, it is not very easy to be an MSL. You need to have certain qualities aside from clinical knowledge...including leadership skills, assertiveness, amazing communication skills..you have to be able to engage in very high level discussions with thought leaders

A MSL would be an excellent job. However, I have known MSLs who were laid off. It seems these positions are not as secure as they were before.
 
I wonder how she's doing now.

I have a friend in high school who went to Albany College of Pharmacy doing the 6 year program. She dropped after a year because it was "too" hard. She was smart though and graduated with me at ROP Pharmacy tech course. She deviated to nursing and graduating this summer. ~
 
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