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So I'm one of those "I've always wanted to be a doctor since I was 4 years old" people. So I did well in school, enjoyed high school biology, and promptly decided on being a biology major in college. Soon after, I realized that more often than not, biology major = pre-med, at least in my school. So I took the intro bio courses and general chemistry my first year, since it was the standard timeline for most bio majors and, coincidentally, premeds. I then went on to take organic chemistry this past semester, and did well. So I'm doing well in my pre-med requirements and I have a cumulative GPA of 3.92 at an ivy league school.

But looking back, I don't know why I simply opted into the pre-med track. I enjoyed AP biology in high school because I found all the facts really interesting, but soon found out that I don't enjoy research because it's so focused on one specific topic. I became pre-med because it seemed like the natural course of action. I've always wanted to be a doctor, but no one ever told me what the path to medical school was like. I didn't even know that doctors had to do residencies and fellowships until the summer before my freshman year of undergrad. No one in my family or circle of family friends is a doctor. My parents are Asian immigrants who did not understand the process of getting into medical school and all the things that follow (such as the debt, the training, and the residency/match program), and I feel like their encouragement was misguided, as well as my own ambitions. They've never pressured me into going to medical school, but that may have been because I had already told them of my desire to become a doctor when I was young. The more I learn about the path to medical school, the less appealing it appears. But I don't know what else I would do if not this.

I always envisioned college as a time in which I could take random courses in subjects that I was interested in, without the pressure of having to impress an admissions committee. But the pre-med track at my school is so cut throat and it seems like everyone is just trying to one-up everyone else in terms of research positions, volunteer work, clinical programs, and grades. I've though about switching majors, but I don't have the courses required to switch into another major and I am required to declare a major by the end of next semester.

So now I'm a sophomore bio major who is doing well in my pre-med courses but isn't sure about going to medical school. But if I don't go to medical school, I'm not sure what else I would pursue. I find comfort in the "certainty" of the medical school path, in which you get into medical school, complete residency, and then become a doctor, and I'm scared of the uncertainty that comes with dropping out of the pre-med track, especially when I'm not doing badly in my classes. And I still enjoy learning about biology.

What can I do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I've been having anxiety attacks and none of my friends (who are all pre-med, since I generally take science courses for my major) have been helpful. Instead, they were all angry at me for even talking about the possibility of dropping out of pre-med while some of them were struggling to get good grades in the pre-med classes.

I apologize if this just seems like a long-winded rant. I just needed to get this out of my system.
 
To go into the medical field, you must be absolutely sure that you are in LOVE with medicine. The rigors of med school, residency, internships, research etcetc are enough to discourage even the most devoted premed students so it's essential that you have the confidence and passion to pursue it. Grades aren't everything.
If you really do love biology, an MD is not your only option. Go for a PhD instead. You can spend the rest of your life learning about it and sharing it with other who also work in your field. You can do research, go work for a biomedical company or even become a professor. There are lots of avenues with PhD as well.
 
I wish my peers were that competitive, some of the students in my class don't even study, it's difficult when your competition is weak, it makes you weak.
 
I wish my peers were that competitive, some of the students in my class don't even study, it's difficult when your competition is weak, it makes you weak.

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I wish my peers were that competitive, some of the students in my class don't even study, it's difficult when your competition is weak, it makes you weak.

I don't see why it would matter at all but ok...
 
What really helped me to solidify my choice to be a doctor was volunteering and shadowing docs. Spending time interacting with patients and doctors in clinical settings helped me get a glimpse of what life as a doctor would be like (after all the schooling is done of course).
Maybe you could give that a try before making your decision...
 
What really helped me to solidify my choice to be a doctor was volunteering and shadowing docs. Spending time interacting with patients and doctors in clinical settings helped me get a glimpse of what life as a doctor would be like (after all the schooling is done of course).
Maybe you could give that a try before making your decision...

+1. This is why shadowing is expected in applications.
 
Dude, it seems that you're just unpleased about the pre-med track at your school. Are you interested in something else besides biology?, maybe if you minor in something random (a subject that you like-of course), it would allow you to explore something else, make new friends and get away from those other neurotic premeds:luck:
 
Daysgoby,

No one will force you to go to medical school if you don't want to, but an interest in bio is a great reason to major in it -- and you don't need to go to med school after if you don't want to. Explore other classes when you can here and there. Don't let the premed crazies get you down though, YOU decide what being a bio major means for YOU.

Every field has its own kind of competition and madmen. You'll have to learn to rise above them no matter what you do.
 
To go into the medical field, you must be absolutely sure that you are in LOVE with medicine. The rigors of med school, residency, internships, research etcetc are enough to discourage even the most devoted premed students so it's essential that you have the confidence and passion to pursue it. Grades aren't everything.
If you really do love biology, an MD is not your only option. Go for a PhD instead. You can spend the rest of your life learning about it and sharing it with other who also work in your field. You can do research, go work for a biomedical company or even become a professor. There are lots of avenues with PhD as well.

No, you don't have to absolutely LOVE it. Being a doctor is a job like any else. If you find it interesting and think you could make a career of it, then go for it.
 
If you don't really LOVE being a doctor, then I dont think the pre-med track is right for you. You will be doing it for the rest of your life!!!

and im sure that med school students will be as cut-throat as the undergrad premeds, if these people are already making you unsure of your career choice, then just leave.

Why dont you just take some general courses to see if there's something else that you like. And how about a phD in biology or biomedical engineering??
 
If you don't really LOVE being a doctor, then I dont think the pre-med track is right for you. You will be doing it for the rest of your life!!!

and im sure that med school students will be as cut-throat as the undergrad premeds, if these people are already making you unsure of your career choice, then just leave.

Why dont you just take some general courses to see if there's something else that you like. And how about a phD in biology or biomedical engineering??
This is wrong on so many levels XD
 
So I'm one of those "I've always wanted to be a doctor since I was 4 years old" people. So I did well in school, enjoyed high school biology, and promptly decided on being a biology major in college. Soon after, I realized that more often than not, biology major = pre-med, at least in my school. So I took the intro bio courses and general chemistry my first year, since it was the standard timeline for most bio majors and, coincidentally, premeds. I then went on to take organic chemistry this past semester, and did well. So I'm doing well in my pre-med requirements and I have a cumulative GPA of 3.92 at an ivy league school.

But looking back, I don't know why I simply opted into the pre-med track. I enjoyed AP biology in high school because I found all the facts really interesting, but soon found out that I don't enjoy research because it's so focused on one specific topic. I became pre-med because it seemed like the natural course of action. I've always wanted to be a doctor, but no one ever told me what the path to medical school was like. I didn't even know that doctors had to do residencies and fellowships until the summer before my freshman year of undergrad. No one in my family or circle of family friends is a doctor. My parents are Asian immigrants who did not understand the process of getting into medical school and all the things that follow (such as the debt, the training, and the residency/match program), and I feel like their encouragement was misguided, as well as my own ambitions. They've never pressured me into going to medical school, but that may have been because I had already told them of my desire to become a doctor when I was young. The more I learn about the path to medical school, the less appealing it appears. But I don't know what else I would do if not this.

I always envisioned college as a time in which I could take random courses in subjects that I was interested in, without the pressure of having to impress an admissions committee. But the pre-med track at my school is so cut throat and it seems like everyone is just trying to one-up everyone else in terms of research positions, volunteer work, clinical programs, and grades. I've though about switching majors, but I don't have the courses required to switch into another major and I am required to declare a major by the end of next semester.

So now I'm a sophomore bio major who is doing well in my pre-med courses but isn't sure about going to medical school. But if I don't go to medical school, I'm not sure what else I would pursue. I find comfort in the "certainty" of the medical school path, in which you get into medical school, complete residency, and then become a doctor, and I'm scared of the uncertainty that comes with dropping out of the pre-med track, especially when I'm not doing badly in my classes. And I still enjoy learning about biology.

What can I do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I've been having anxiety attacks and none of my friends (who are all pre-med, since I generally take science courses for my major) have been helpful. Instead, they were all angry at me for even talking about the possibility of dropping out of pre-med while some of them were struggling to get good grades in the pre-med classes.

I apologize if this just seems like a long-winded rant. I just needed to get this out of my system.



How do you know you do not like residency and all that yet? In medical school, I really don't think it's that cutthroat (at least as undergrad) because everyone already knows they're going to become a doctor of some sort. I'd say think about it for a bit but if you ask me(take this with a grain of salt I'm not the best person interpreter) but it seems as if you are interested in medicine and are competent...you just lack the confidence

For example, I went to my state school and all my high school friends that went to other state schools are still full steam ahead just as I am. However, the couple that went to public ivies or real ivies have grown weary of the competition and have begun to doubt themselves.

Just my two cents.
 
No, you don't have to absolutely LOVE it. Being a doctor is a job like any else. If you find it interesting and think you could make a career of it, then go for it.

Absolutely not. It's an honor, a privilege, and a divine calling.
 
Being a doctor is not a job like anything else, we aren't in trade school. It is a career, and that's an important distinction. Chris Rock to enlighten us all 🙂

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG9paM_3QRM[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG9paM_3QRM

Friggin hilarious. The thing about sitting on the toilet to pass time is so true :laugh:
 
There is no reason to not finish your degree in biology as planned. You are doing well so keep it up and graduate. In the meantime do a bunch of shadowing, in your case I would recommend many different specialties. If you are not sure medicine is for you by your junior year do not apply to medical school. Instead, give yourself another year, finish strong and take the MCAT. If you become certain during your senior year go ahead and apply but only if you know for sure. If not, go ahead and find something unrelated to medicine and do that for a year. Continue your community service and those types of activities.

If you keep up your grades, do well on the MCAT, and really explorer the field of medicine you will have no trouble by taking a gap year or two. It is very important to not go into medicine if you are not sure if you would be happy elsewhere.

Forget about what everyone else is doing and do well at the things that interest you. That is what will make you an excellent doctor if you choose the field of medicine.
 
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