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Does anyone else agree that if someone needs absolute silence when studying they should study on one of the quiet floors in the library instead of getting upset when people whisper on the not so quiet floor?

It is fast becoming my pet peeve. If one of my classmates asks me a question I want to be able to freaking answer it (quietly) without getting shhed.
 
Does anyone else agree that if someone needs absolute silence when studying they should study on one of the quiet floors in the library instead of getting upset when people whisper on the not so quiet floor?

It is fast becoming my pet peeve. If one of my classmates asks me a question I want to be able to freaking answer it (quietly) without getting shhed.

well said, well said.
 
If one of my classmates asks me a question I want to be able to freaking answer it (quietly) without getting shhed.

This is what study rooms, coffee shops, labs, friend's apartments, lounges, etc are for.... libraries are for quiet time 😡
 
This is what study rooms, coffee shops, labs, friend's apartments, lounges, etc are for.... libraries are for quiet time 😡

👍 If you want to have a conversation, go somewhere else. Also, please, please don't talk on your freaking cell phone -- and yes, turn the ringer off! 😡 And if you must answer your friend's question, do it in the quiet voice. Some talking is OK and necessary, but if you're working on a project, quizzing each other or doing any sort of socializing, you should leave.
 
👍 If you want to have a conversation, go somewhere else. Also, please, please don't talk on your freaking cell phone -- and yes, turn the ringer off! 😡 And if you must answer your friend's question, do it in the quiet voice. Some talking is OK and necessary, but if you're working on a project, quizzing each other or doing any sort of socializing, you should leave.


absolutely. some people need pindrop silence to study, OP. the library is the only place. you wanna talk? go to the coffeeshop, a study lounge, conference room. get over your pet peeve and stop being selfish 👎
 
Does anyone else agree that if someone needs absolute silence when studying they should study on one of the quiet floors in the library instead of getting upset when people whisper on the not so quiet floor?

It is fast becoming my pet peeve. If one of my classmates asks me a question I want to be able to freaking answer it (quietly) without getting shhed.

We had shhhhers in are class. Not in the library but in the class room. Mostly when we came back form lunch and there was still random chatter in the room. However one time we were treated to a chorus of shhhhhhes when there was no professor in class just a reflex by some people I guess. Someone then in response to the constant shhhhing screamed "Shut the hell up there isn't even a instructor here!" 👍

Does anyone else agree that if someone needs absolute silence when studying they should study on one of the quiet floors in the library instead of getting upset when people whisper on the not so quiet floor?

In general I would agree with the other people that if you're in the library it may be best to be quiet.

However people do need to get used to studying with noise. You'll be constantly reading articles/review books on the floors come 3rd year. Can't exactly tell the nursing staff and patients to shhhhhhh.
 
This is what study rooms, coffee shops, labs, friend's apartments, lounges, etc are for.... libraries are for quiet time 😡

Our library, like many libraries, has quiet zones and non-quiet zones. It doesn't make sense to shush people in the non-quiet zone if there are still vacant seats (and there always are here) in the quiet area.
 
👍 If you want to have a conversation, go somewhere else. Also, please, please don't talk on your freaking cell phone -- and yes, turn the ringer off! 😡 And if you must answer your friend's question, do it in the quiet voice. Some talking is OK and necessary, but if you're working on a project, quizzing each other or doing any sort of socializing, you should leave.

Just like the poster of the post just above this' library, our library has quiet zones and non quiet zones. I stick to the not quiet zones. If I am doing group studying I just get a group study room.

I am talking about answering a question.

If someone needs absolute silence they should stick to the quiet zones. That is what they are for and there is plenty of space in them.

Edit: I think the misunderstanding is in my original post, when I said quiet and not quiet floors I was talking about officially designated quiet and not quiet floors with signs that state their nature.
 
Does anyone else agree that if someone needs absolute silence when studying they should study on one of the quiet floors in the library instead of getting upset when people whisper on the not so quiet floor?

It is fast becoming my pet peeve. If one of my classmates asks me a question I want to be able to freaking answer it (quietly) without getting shhed.

YES!!! I was at the undergrad library (because it's open 24/7) studying with my friends, and we were specifically in the NON-QUIET study area, when there is a HUGE quiet study area.

And some jackass mid-thirties law student gets his boxers in a bunch and is like "Some of us are trying to study here." Stupidest part is that he said this AS WE WERE PACKING UP TO LEAVE.

The idiocy of some people is beyond belief. He's lucky I don't really have violent tendencies, because I was seriously tempted to grab his laptop and smash it over his head repeatedly.
 
absolutely. some people need pindrop silence to study, OP. the library is the only place. you wanna talk? go to the coffeeshop, a study lounge, conference room. get over your pet peeve and stop being selfish 👎

Those people should be in the quiet study sections-I go to the quiet study areas when I need quiet study time.

But when people are trying to group study (like for anatomy for example, group studies are often very helpful, especially since everyone does different dissections) they should be able to talk in the non-quiet section of the library.

Only a total jerkwad would purposely sit in the non-quiet section and then whine about how people are talking. If it's such a big deal they should go sit in the quiet section where it's dead silent.

For example, where I am, the entire second floor of our med school library is the quiet floor, plus there's lots of extra private rooms if you need extra special silence. So if you're sitting on the first floor on the 3 tables there that AREN'T in a quiet area, you have NO RIGHT to whine about other people talking, because there are just so many more areas that are quiet that you could have gone to.

And at the undergraduate library, the main seating section on the first floor is the silent study area that's dead silent, whereas if you go into the basement it's the non-silent area.

You can't hear the sound from the other floor because they're separated pretty well, so honestly if you're sitting in the non-quiet area and whining, you're just being a jerk because you're purposely putting yourself in a noisy area then whining about it (plus you can't even enter the basement directly, so in order to sit there you'd have to walk PAST the quiet area in that library).

Edit: I think maybe there was some misunderstanding, since I know at the medical school library at my undergrad school there wasn't any sort of separation at all-so every area was for quiet study. But at some schools the libraries have areas that are for the people who need quiet to study, and then there's an area where you don't have to be quiet. And the OP was complaining about people sitting in the non-quiet areas of the libraries with such a separation.

BTW, I usually study in the quiet area myself, and it sometimes annoys me when people have non-stop whispered conversations right next to me, so it's not like I'm a huge fan of noisiness, but it's equally obnoxious when you've purposely put yourself in the noisy area so you can group study and some ***** starts whining about how you're talking when they can walk up a flight of stairs and be in a dead silent area.
 
YES!!! I was at the undergrad library (because it's open 24/7) studying with my friends, and we were specifically in the NON-QUIET study area, when there is a HUGE quiet study area.

And some jackass mid-thirties law student gets his boxers in a bunch and is like "Some of us are trying to study here." Stupidest part is that he said this AS WE WERE PACKING UP TO LEAVE.

The idiocy of some people is beyond belief. He's lucky I don't really have violent tendencies, because I was seriously tempted to grab his laptop and smash it over his head repeatedly.

You certainly have violent ideation, one day you are gonna be pushed over the edge and I hope I'm not around. :laugh:
 
But when people are trying to group study (like for anatomy for example, group studies are often very helpful, especially since everyone does different dissections) they should be able to talk in the non-quiet section of the library.

This mentality is exactly the problem. In my experience libraries are not divided into quiet and not-quiet sections. They are divided into quiet and pin-drop silent sections. The library stacks are NEVER the place for a group anatomy discussion. You are the jerk if you are bringing your anatomy group into a quiet library area to discuss cranial nerves. Take it to the caf or someone's apartment, or any of the 99.9% of places that are not designated quiet spaces.
 
This mentality is exactly the problem. In my experience libraries are not divided into quiet and not-quiet sections.

Theirs apparently is, rendering your point moot.

Mine is the same. Quiet for most, then group study rooms where talking is not only allowed, but encouraged.
 
lol, the library is too intense for me anyone. Every time I walk in there I feel like I'm not studying enough 🙂

I agree. I can't study productively in our library because I feel the stress and I watch people flipping pages while I stay on the same page. It makes me nervous, like I know less than everyone else in my class.

Unfortunately, it seems like I miss out on a lot of bonding that happens in the library.
 
Does anyone else agree that if someone needs absolute silence when studying they should study on one of the quiet floors in the library instead of getting upset when people whisper on the not so quiet floor?

It is fast becoming my pet peeve. If one of my classmates asks me a question I want to be able to freaking answer it (quietly) without getting shhed.

Dude, I'm so impressed with you. How did you manage to stop posting on SDN all semester?
 
This mentality is exactly the problem. In my experience libraries are not divided into quiet and not-quiet sections. They are divided into quiet and pin-drop silent sections.
Ours sure is. The librarians are carrying on business all day anyways, so they make plenty of noise. There's a talking area, a hushed voice area, and a pin-drop area, and they are all quite far apart.
 
This mentality is exactly the problem. In my experience libraries are not divided into quiet and not-quiet sections. They are divided into quiet and pin-drop silent sections. The library stacks are NEVER the place for a group anatomy discussion. You are the jerk if you are bringing your anatomy group into a quiet library area to discuss cranial nerves. Take it to the caf or someone's apartment, or any of the 99.9% of places that are not designated quiet spaces.

I think your experience is unusual. Libraries are places to get reference questions answered, conduct circulation transactions, retrieve materials, learn about how to find information, and to study. Many of these activities are difficult to conduct in silence, and that is one reason most libraries have one more more quiet zones as far from the chaos as possible, but make little attempt to regulate noise other places. To generalize a bit, librarians tend to dislike the idea of a library as a hushed temple, preferring to think of it as a place for more active learning with some quiet areas for the people who need them.
 
I like to study in panera--bring on the noise!
 
I partly agree with the OP; if you're in a non-quiet area of the library, people don't have the right to shh someone about talking or discussing a problem and they need to move. However, I also agree that there's a certain limit of noise that is still considered acceptable. If your group is laughing, cracking jokes, having a heated argument, etc., and the entire floor can hear you, it's time to move. The library is there for those who need to read in peace or concentrate on their work. If your group's noise starts to detract others' experiences, you are the one that needs to move.
 
Dude, I'm so impressed with you. How did you manage to stop posting on SDN all semester?

I'm pretty amazed myself. I think it was because I never put a link to it on my new computer.
 
YES!!! I was at the undergrad library (because it's open 24/7) studying with my friends, and we were specifically in the NON-QUIET study area, when there is a HUGE quiet study area.

And some jackass mid-thirties law student gets his boxers in a bunch and is like "Some of us are trying to study here." Stupidest part is that he said this AS WE WERE PACKING UP TO LEAVE.

The idiocy of some people is beyond belief. He's lucky I don't really have violent tendencies, because I was seriously tempted to grab his laptop and smash it over his head repeatedly.

Seriously? And you're going to be a doctor someday? That's very concerning. I hope you're never my doctor. If I ask you a "stupid" question, you just might assult me.
 
What peeves me more than whatever has been brought up here is when people are disgustingly disrespectful in lecture, when groups of friends would be laughing or talking extremely loud that even the lecturer can hear it
 
What peeves me more than whatever has been brought up here is when people are disgustingly disrespectful in lecture, when groups of friends would be laughing or talking extremely loud that even the lecturer can hear it

Amen to that. In contrast to the library, where you can choose what type of area you study in and move somewhere else if you are having trouble concentrating, you don't really have that option when it comes to lecture. I think shushing obnoxious people in lecture can be totally warranted.
 
I partly agree with the OP; if you're in a non-quiet area of the library, people don't have the right to shh someone about talking or discussing a problem and they need to move. However, I also agree that there's a certain limit of noise that is still considered acceptable. If your group is laughing, cracking jokes, having a heated argument, etc., and the entire floor can hear you, it's time to move. The library is there for those who need to read in peace or concentrate on their work. If your group's noise starts to detract others' experiences, you are the one that needs to move.

This is a good point. While talking is acceptable in the specifically non-quiet zones, one shouldn't be loud in the library. And regardless of where you are, your cell phone should still be in silent mode, and if you have to answer it and talk, at least talk in a low voice or go outside. :meanie:
 
What peeves me more than whatever has been brought up here is when people are disgustingly disrespectful in lecture, when groups of friends would be laughing or talking extremely loud that even the lecturer can hear it

I was going to whole-heartedly second your post, but I realized I have the tendency to chat in lecture. I usually manage to do it in a whispered tone that wouldn't be distracting to many nearby students nor the prof (because that's rude... how much would it suck to come in and teach disrespectful med students year after year?). Sometimes the conversations are funny and I start giggling a little loud...

This would be a large part of why I quit coming to class as often; can't pay attention.
 
Earplugs. Literally tell people to f*ck off. This works suprizingly well.
 
👍 If you want to have a conversation, go somewhere else. Also, please, please don't talk on your freaking cell phone -- and yes, turn the ringer off! 😡 And if you must answer your friend's question, do it in the quiet voice. Some talking is OK and necessary, but if you're working on a project, quizzing each other or doing any sort of socializing, you should leave.

Depends on the school. Some libraries have designated areas where group studying and talking is ok. for instance we have conference rooms which we can check out for 3 hour which allow for group studying and discussion. We also have the whole first floor which is meant for studying in goups where talking is allowed. This is what the OP seems to be referring to as it might be the case with their school.

Our main campus library also has places that are not meant to be silent rooms like the starbucks on the first floor and the whole first floor in general as well as little study rooms.
 
This is a good point. While talking is acceptable in the specifically non-quiet zones, one shouldn't be loud in the library.

Agreed. If you are in a non-quiet area of the library and it sounds like you're having a party, and/or your not-quiet is leaking into the quiet area, you are officially being a jerk. The library staff are within their rights to correct you. And then they will wait for you in the parking lot and beat you up because you forced them to conform to the "shushing librarian" stereotype, which they have tried so hard to overcome.
 
Agreed. If you are in a non-quiet area of the library and it sounds like you're having a party, and/or your not-quiet is leaking into the quiet area, you are officially being a jerk. The library staff are within their rights to correct you. And then they will wait for you in the parking lot and beat you up because you forced them to conform to the "shushing librarian" stereotype, which they have tried so hard to overcome.

Yeah but I don't think that is what the OP is was trying to do. I think they just wanted to be able to answer someone's question in one of the non quiet zones rather then be told they have to be completely silent in a non silent zone.

But I do see what yo are saying and gree that there is talking within a certain limit and I don't think most people deliberately try to be as loud as you are describing in the party example. Def. not in the med library. the main campus library is another story because of its starbucks and overcrowded nature.
 
I can only study at home cause I get too anoyed in the library with all the people talking and wispering etc... Even on quite floors people love to have their cell phone on the table, so that when it vibrates everyone knows it. AND the best is when people talk on their phone in the library!!!!!
 
i was surprised to see you implore me, OP; i didn't think we were to that stage yet. i'm not ready to say i implore you back... yet.
i agree that people asking for quiet should, instead of fighting for tranquility, just get up and move to a "quiet area." it's like complaining about smoking in the smoking section of a restaurant... just move to the non-smoking section... or go home. not that i smoke but i think it's an apt comparison.
 
However people do need to get used to studying with noise. You'll be constantly reading articles/review books on the floors come 3rd year. Can't exactly tell the nursing staff and patients to shhhhhhh.

I can't believe no one else brought up or seconded this point. Seriously, I understand some people have trouble focusing without silence...but maybe you should practice. Or switch to a PhD program rather than planning to spend the rest of your life working and thinking in a busy, noisy hospital (or clinic). But what do I know? I'm one of the people giggling during class (I really try not to, I swear) and answering my cell phone in the library (well...that one time I studied in the library, before I realized it was a terrifyingly solemn place to be.) 😛
 
there are times i need complete silence. so i don't sit out in the open area of the library like an idiot. instead, i go in a study room. problem solved! wow i am so smart



and usually i do need some background noise and friends around to keep myself from falling asleep and/or going completely insane
 
there are times i need complete silence. so i don't sit out in the open area of the library like an idiot. instead, i go in a study room. problem solved! wow i am so smart



and usually i do need some background noise and friends around to keep myself from falling asleep and/or going completely insane

I know what you mean. That's what I do too.
 
i was surprised to see you implore me, OP; i didn't think we were to that stage yet. i'm not ready to say i implore you back... yet.
i agree that people asking for quiet should, instead of fighting for tranquility, just get up and move to a "quiet area." it's like complaining about smoking in the smoking section of a restaurant... just move to the non-smoking section... or go home. not that i smoke but i think it's an apt comparison.

:laugh: :laugh:

They banned smoking in restaurants in Fl. except for the bar areas I think.
 
I'm pretty amazed myself. I think it was because I never put a link to it on my new computer.

So true. I have no quicklink in firefox on my laptop and visited this site sooo rarely and posted even less.
 
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