I really don't like about 90% of my class...

[auburnO5]

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I'm sure there has been threads about this before, but honestly there are probably only about 5-6 people in my class that I actually genuinely like. I'm sure this is partly due to the fact that I have a large class, and it is impossible for me to get to know everyone.

I am definitely a "type B personality," whereas it seems like medicine attracts basically all Type A's. I've always considered myself a really likeable guy, extremely easy going, and had a lot of non-premed friends in college.

I'm fine with only having a few friends in my class, but I was just wondering how anyone who has had a similar experience to me have fared once they begin residency and are actually in the hospital working? Will I be miserable because I'll be surrounded by aggressive tightly wound doctors?

 

[245399]

Only 90% ?

 

[TAWS]

You're definitely having this problem because you are not getting to know your peers very well outside of school.

Try to stop looking at the class as a single entity with its own personality.

Med school doesn't attract type A personalities or extroverts but it does make you functionally one to do your job. It is important distinction to make because outside of school/work, you will probably find them much more likable.

 

[dr zaius]

I dislike about 90% of your class, too. You got a pretty raw deal. A lot of those kids are absolutely terrible.

 

[officedepot]

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[auburnO5]

I dislike about 90% of your class, too. You got a pretty raw deal. A lot of those kids are absolutely terrible.

You almost matriculated here, if memory serves me correct?

 

[RySerr21]

I'm sure there has been threads about this before, but honestly there are probably only about 5-6 people in my class that I actually genuinely like. I'm sure this is partly due to the fact that I have a large class, and it is impossible for me to get to know everyone.

I am definitely a "type B personality," whereas it seems like medicine attracts basically all Type A's. I've always considered myself a really likeable guy, extremely easy going, and had a lot of non-premed friends in college.

I'm fine with only having a few friends in my class, but I was just wondering how anyone who has had a similar experience to me have fared once they begin residency and are actually in the hospital working? Will I be miserable because I'll be surrounded by aggressive tightly wound doctors?

each specialty attracts a different kind of personality. When you are going through rotations youll get a feel for who you mesh with the best. I'm very not type A as well...for what its worth I found the people most similar to myself were in pediatrics. Very laid back, happy go lucky, well balanced. I'm not saying if you are a surgeon you can't be those things, but in general my experience was that that type of person was attracted to peds (or primary care/family med) more so than any other field.

 

[dr zaius]

You almost matriculated here, if memory serves me correct?

Yes. One reason I chose not to was because of some of the people I would be around for the first 2 years.

Keep your head up. My current class is pretty benign, but that will likely change when we leave the sanctuary of pass/fail next year.

 

[Torr]

I'm sure there has been threads about this before, but honestly there are probably only about 5-6 people in my class that I actually genuinely like. I'm sure this is partly due to the fact that I have a large class, and it is impossible for me to get to know everyone.

I didn't think I'd like anyone in my class when school first started (I'm an MS1) and it really bothered me. I've since been able to form some great friendships with my classmates and they've turned out to be a pretty awesome group.......a group that I have no real time for because I'm in med school .

I think 5-6 friends sounds just fine. Ignore the rest?

 

[link2swim06]

I didn't think I'd like anyone in my class when school first started (I'm an MS1) and it really bothered me. I've since been able to form some great friendships with my classmates and they've turned out to be a pretty awesome group.......a group that I have no real time for because I'm in med school .

I think 5-6 friends sounds just fine. Ignore the rest?

100% agreed, I only regularly hang out with about 5-6 people. I guess unlike the OP I get along with the majority, we both dont have time to hang out with everyone so why does it even matter?

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

Dude I have like 4-5 real friends in a class of 200. That's pretty good if you ask me.

Med school isn't a big social club...I guess if people are more focused on being popular than studying and stuff, that's fine I guess....a little odd but fine

 

[cartoondoc]

Most people hate the vast majority of their classmates. As long as you have a few people you like.

Also, the people you like or dislike will change when you get to your clinical years. I ended up hating some of my closer friends who suddenly evolved into huge gunners, and I realized a lot of other people I never got to know before were actually very nice.

 

[RySerr21]

Most people hate the vast majority of their classmates. As long as you have a few people you like.

Also, the people you like or dislike will change when you get to your clinical years. I ended up hating some of my closer friends who suddenly evolved into huge gunners, and I realized a lot of other people I never got to know before were actually very nice.

very true. 3rd year brings out the worst in some people you never would have thought would act that way. You also get to know a lot of people you have never really talked to.

 

[ErgoSum]

I think 5-6 friends is fine. I only hang out with 2-3 people from my class and have only several acquaintances. I've really enjoyed making friends with several people in the classes above me, though. It takes gunning out of the equation and lets me learn from their experiences.

 

[LoveandHate]

I'm sure there has been threads about this before, but honestly there are probably only about 5-6 people in my class that I actually genuinely like. I'm sure this is partly due to the fact that I have a large class, and it is impossible for me to get to know everyone.

I am definitely a "type B personality," whereas it seems like medicine attracts basically all Type A's. I've always considered myself a really likeable guy, extremely easy going, and had a lot of non-premed friends in college.

I'm fine with only having a few friends in my class, but I was just wondering how anyone who has had a similar experience to me have fared once they begin residency and are actually in the hospital working? Will I be miserable because I'll be surrounded by aggressive tightly wound doctors?

It could be worse... 90% of your class could specifically not like you...

 

[kautionwirez]

Why are people in med school clueless/depressed about social life, dating, etc? (well many people in this whole forum actually). It's just surprising to see people who are somewhat hardworking and/or intelligent have no experience in such an important aspect in life.

...But then again, who am I to judge...

 

[dr zaius]

Why are people in med school clueless/depressed about social life, dating, etc? (well many people in this whole forum actually). It's just surprising to see people who are somewhat hardworking and/or intelligent have no experience in such an important aspect in life.

...But then again, who am I to judge...

Going from undergrad where you have an established group of friends to medical school across the state/country and starting from scratch can be difficult for people. The difficulty can compound when you throw in the stress of learning to study properly for medical school.

 

[willen101383]

Why are people in med school clueless/depressed about social life, dating, etc? (well many people in this whole forum actually). It's just surprising to see people who are somewhat hardworking and/or intelligent have no experience in such an important aspect in life.

...But then again, who am I to judge...

People in my class are lacking SO many normal human male attributes. I came from a sort of a different pathway to med school and am older but still.....i dont get it.

I told a few people I took apart my macbook pro to replace the keyboard and they were like ZOMGZZGGZZZ "I dont have the mechanical skills for that" I was told by a friend. Wow really? You cant turn a few screws?

It just seems like people are really lacking a lot of "bro" skills.

I am an avid shooter and hunter and this REALLY blows peoples minds. OMG you have 15 guns?!??!?!?! What do you need all those guns for? I am a collector, I think the history of firearms is cool. Wowww thats really scary... and OMG you mean you are taking 2 days off next week to go hunting....and you arent even going to bring txtbooks with you to study???

From changing a tire, to basic "home" type repair skill, to using a soldering iron, to patching drywall.....many man skills are lacking.


Most of these people are really intelligent, real hardworking individuals...but I am downright scared at the lack of common sense I constantly see. Its like they spent so much time being good little academic drones their whole lives and forgot to learn how to be a normal human male.

Anyone other "bros" notice this stuff about your classmates?

 

[GodoShingo]

I have gotten to know most of my class, and I have to say that I actually do not like 90% of them. It's not that they are bad people. They are just boring, without any other ambition than getting their license (and still not knowing jack after 5 years) and going out partying. They have no hobbies and other desires, and are shallow.
The few I hang out with (6-7 people or so) have both interesting hobbies, and interest in medicine further than in the textbooks (research, taking part in seminars with important subjects that are good for our future understanding of medicine ect.).
I like partying too, but not too often, and I study a lot. But I always make time to not lose connection with the rest of the world and other interesting subjects, and to engage into interesting things. And that's why I don't like to hang out with most of my class.

Anyone other "bros" notice this stuff about your classmates?

Oh, God yes. I am also baffled about this. Sure, I have been academically successful, but as I grew up, I took my time and got taught from my father all the essentials to become a man who you can depend on (and who can depend on himself). Everything from repairs of electronics and to know when someone is trying to scam you. Also, how to act in social situations, and common sense and common knowledge.
I also know the value of hard work, as I worked slave jobs for a while, and also helped my father in my business.
I feel that many of my classmates lack those qualities. Not that I am pro-military, but most decent males in my class are from the military.

 

[tiedyeddog]

Wowww thats really scary... and OMG you mean you are taking 2 days off next week to go hunting....

I too collect guns. I think this is an average response from most people, even outside of medical school, especially in large metropolitan cities.

 

[willen101383]

I have gotten to know most of my class, and I have to say that I actually do not like 90% of them. It's not that they are bad people. They are just boring, without any other ambition than getting their license (and still not knowing jack after 5 years) and going out partying. They have no hobbies and other desires, and are shallow.
The few I hang out with (6-7 people or so) have both interesting hobbies, and interest in medicine further than in the textbooks (research, taking part in seminars with important subjects that are good for our future understanding of medicine ect.).
I like partying too, but not too often, and I study a lot. But I always make time to not lose connection with the rest of the world and other interesting subjects, and to engage into interesting things. And that's why I don't like to hang out with most of my class.



Oh, God yes. I am also baffled about this. Sure, I have been academically successful, but as I grew up, I took my time and got taught from my father all the essentials to become a man who you can depend on (and who can depend on himself). Everything from repairs of electronics and to know when someone is trying to scam you. Also, how to act in social situations, and common sense and common knowledge.
I also know the value of hard work, as I worked slave jobs for a while, and also helped my father in my business.
I feel that many of my classmates lack those qualities. Not that I am pro-military, but most decent males in my class are from the military.

Agreed. The military definitely attracts (usually LOL..person in mind here) more of the well rounded guys. I just dont get it man. The stuff that is just second nature to me (and you im guessing) is just totally foreign to so many guys ive met in my class.

 

[willen101383]

I too collect guns. I think this is an average response from most people, even outside of medical school, especially in large metropolitan cities.

Yeah I do agree. I find that most people around here (lets face it...you drive 20 miles out of philly and you are in the sticks) have at least been exposed to hunting: uncle who hunts, my neighbor brought me venison sausage, etc. I just find that a lot of my classmates are totally weirded out...more so than your average joe around here.

Either way, good to see another enthusiast here! I know a lot of the attendings who post over in the anesthsia forum (et al) shoot.

 

[tiedyeddog]

Y I just find that a lot of my classmates are totally weirded out...more so than your average joe around here.

You'd think everyone in philly would have their CCW, haha. I try not to bring up guns with anyone at school unless I think they have an interest in them, seems to make some people think I'm a nut, I've found.

 

[PrideNeverDie]

People in my class are lacking SO many normal human male attributes. I came from a sort of a different pathway to med school and am older but still.....i dont get it.

I told a few people I took apart my macbook pro to replace the keyboard and they were like ZOMGZZGGZZZ "I dont have the mechanical skills for that" I was told by a friend. Wow really? You cant turn a few screws?

It just seems like people are really lacking a lot of "bro" skills.

I am an avid shooter and hunter and this REALLY blows peoples minds. OMG you have 15 guns?!??!?!?! What do you need all those guns for? I am a collector, I think the history of firearms is cool. Wowww thats really scary... and OMG you mean you are taking 2 days off next week to go hunting....and you arent even going to bring txtbooks with you to study???

From changing a tire, to basic "home" type repair skill, to using a soldering iron, to patching drywall.....many man skills are lacking.


Most of these people are really intelligent, real hardworking individuals...but I am downright scared at the lack of common sense I constantly see. Its like they spent so much time being good little academic drones their whole lives and forgot to learn how to be a normal human male.

Anyone other "bros" notice this stuff about your classmates?

welcome to the medical field

both my parents are terrible at anything that isn't medicine. they are one-trick ponies. don't be THAT doctor.

actually geniunely liking 5-6 people is quite high in a class. most of the people who are friends are just going through the social motions and actually would not go out of their way to be helpful.

 

[ScubaStarved]

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[bassvp]

i can't be the only one that finds preoccupation with male-ness and male attributes to be a little... Weird? (unless you're looking to get wifed, then i can see the value in having a partner with those skills.) i don't know if my friends can change tires, repair drywall, or put two rounds in a moving target at 30 ft -- and don't care.

+1

 

[SitraAchra]

I can't be the only one that finds preoccupation with male-ness and male attributes to be a little... weird? (Unless you're looking to get wifed, then I can see the value in having a partner with those skills.) I don't know if my friends can change tires, repair drywall, or put two rounds in a moving target at 30 ft -- and don't care.

Why don't you try meeting your classmates halfway: you may find you like anime, Japanese RPGs, reddit or whatever else your classes' sissy-men are into.

-1.

I was in the exact same boat as the OP in med school. It took me the first year to sort through the group to find out who I truly liked hanging out with.

There seems to be this sweet spot of 1-5 years off between college and med school that allows people to sort of figure out who they are and develop actual hobbies and interests. Frequently that coincides with doing some time in the military.

Anyways, reddit and anime are not hobbies and don't make anyone more interesting.

 

[kautionwirez]

Going from undergrad where you have an established group of friends to medical school across the state/country and starting from scratch can be difficult for people. The difficulty can compound when you throw in the stress of learning to study properly for medical school.

I dealt with that in undergrad.

People in my class are lacking SO many normal human male attributes. I came from a sort of a different pathway to med school and am older but still.....i dont get it.

I told a few people I took apart my macbook pro to replace the keyboard and they were like ZOMGZZGGZZZ "I dont have the mechanical skills for that" I was told by a friend. Wow really? You cant turn a few screws?

It just seems like people are really lacking a lot of "bro" skills.

I am an avid shooter and hunter and this REALLY blows peoples minds. OMG you have 15 guns?!??!?!?! What do you need all those guns for? I am a collector, I think the history of firearms is cool. Wowww thats really scary... and OMG you mean you are taking 2 days off next week to go hunting....and you arent even going to bring txtbooks with you to study???

From changing a tire, to basic "home" type repair skill, to using a soldering iron, to patching drywall.....many man skills are lacking.


Most of these people are really intelligent, real hardworking individuals...but I am downright scared at the lack of common sense I constantly see. Its like they spent so much time being good little academic drones their whole lives and forgot to learn how to be a normal human male.

Anyone other "bros" notice this stuff about your classmates?

I have done all of those in bold.

If people don't know how to use WD-40 and duct tape to fix things, they don't have common sense 😀

And hunting is so fun.

Isn't common sense required for medical school?

 

[kjamess]

dont worry guys im cooler than the rest of my class too.

 

[dr zaius]

I would imagine the lack of normal male skills is mainly a regional thing. You're looked at funny if you don't own or have at least handled a gun at my school, and most males know how to fix everyday household things.

It's probably the opposite if most of your classmates come from big cities.

 

[ScubaStarved]

x

 

[Lbgem]

I'm a girl and my dad taught me how to do some of those things. I do think it is city vs rural though. I wouldn't have expected to sand down houses, know the difference between Phillips and flathead, know that a washer is not just a machine, etc if I had been completely city.

'Man skills' as you put it are nice, but for most women nowadays those aren't really deal breakers. It has definitely upped the attractive factor if a guy can do those things but we do have handymen.

Just like I don't think it's a deal breaker if a girl can't sew, cook well, iron, wash clothes/etc, though those are nice skills to have.

I think some of you are being hard on the city-folk and vice versa. While personally I'm not a fan of anime, you could argue that DDR/gaming/etc are hobbies 😛.

You don't need to share ALL hobbies to be friends with someone/find someone interesting, but a couple overlapping ones are nice. And I think being completely different (avid hunter vs never seen a gun before) is fine too, as long as neither thinks the other is inferior/superior. I've had some interesting conversations with friends who have completely different viewpoints to mine.

OP, hang in there, if you're at least semi-normal you'll find some good friends eventually, even if they're not in your med school class. I expect rotations to bring people closer together (or create animosity) since first two years we're mostly studying solo anyways. It's easier for other people pretend to be someone they're not in short bursts.

 

[SitraAchra]

FTFY. You did not read or comprehend my post, but thanks for sharing.

I didn't realize you were being sarcastic. My mistake.

 

[NickNaylor]

There are only a few people in my class that I absolutely wouldn't want to spend time with outside of class, but there are also only a few that I would actually make the effort to try and hang out with outside of class. I'm neutral with most folks - I'm not super excited about spending time with them, but that doesn't mean I dislike them.

I agree with your sentiment though, OP, and I know that's a minor concern for me too. Just find people that you like and hang out with them. You don't have to like everyone.

 

[CatFactorial]

They, collectively, probably hate 90% of you.

 

[410322]

-1.

I was in the exact same boat as the OP in med school. It took me the first year to sort through the group to find out who I truly liked hanging out with.

There seems to be this sweet spot of 1-5 years off between college and med school that allows people to sort of figure out who they are and develop actual hobbies and interests. Frequently that coincides with doing some time in the military.

Anyways, reddit and anime are not hobbies and don't make anyone more interesting.

I don't even like anime (actually I personally hate it) but.. wtf?

 

[SitraAchra]

I don't even like anime (actually I personally hate it) but.. wtf?

Yeah. I like ESPN, college and NFL football. They aren't hobbies either. How could anything I said conjure a "wtf" as if I've offended anyone? By all means, bring up anime as a hobby when applying to med school/residency.

 

[CatFactorial]

Yeah. I like ESPN, college and NFL football. They aren't hobbies either. How could anything I said conjure a "wtf" as I'd I've offended anyone? By all means, bring up anime as a hobby when applying to med school/residency.

Very strict interpretation of hobbies. This is off topic, but I think anime, video games, reddit, google news, ESPN, whatever can count. Sure, they may not belong in a resume/CV, but if mentioned in interviews and such they can establish that you are a normal person with seemingly normal tendencies.

One doesn't need to be Ron Swanson, even if it is advised.

 

[Hamiltonian]

One doesn't need to be Ron Swanson, even if it is advised.

“You may have thought you heard me say I wanted a lot of bacon and eggs, but what I said was: Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.”

 

[Ditto1114]

I'm sure there has been threads about this before, but honestly there are probably only about 5-6 people in my class that I actually genuinely like. I'm sure this is partly due to the fact that I have a large class, and it is impossible for me to get to know everyone.

I am definitely a "type B personality," whereas it seems like medicine attracts basically all Type A's. I've always considered myself a really likeable guy, extremely easy going, and had a lot of non-premed friends in college.

I'm fine with only having a few friends in my class, but I was just wondering how anyone who has had a similar experience to me have fared once they begin residency and are actually in the hospital working? Will I be miserable because I'll be surrounded by aggressive tightly wound doctors?

Knowing the people in your class I'm not surprised. I've become a lot closer with my friends outside of school since starting and I'm very thankful for that. Volker High just gets to me some days. I think when you get out in the real world things will be different. You don't have to be friends with your coworkers you just need to work with them. Hopefully by that time our fellow classmates will have grown up a bit 🙂

 

[410322]

Yeah. I like ESPN, college and NFL football. They aren't hobbies either. How could anything I said conjure a "wtf" as if I've offended anyone? By all means, bring up anime as a hobby when applying to med school/residency.

If a hobby to you is something out of which you get a tangible benefit, such as being able to put it on a resume/CV/application, then we have differing ideas of hobbies. Also, it was more "wtf" in the sense of "I don't understand this", not "This offends me." If you have an intangible benefit to something and you make an effort to said activity with some frequency (ie: "I like watching football and watch all the Patriots games because it's fun."), that pretty much counts as a hobby in my book.

 

[KnuxNole]

Yeah. I like ESPN, college and NFL football. They aren't hobbies either. How could anything I said conjure a "wtf" as if I've offended anyone? By all means, bring up anime as a hobby when applying to med school/residency.

Watching football and anime ARE hobbies, absolutely. Same with video games. Hobbies are basically "THINGS YOU DO FOR FUN". I mean, most(90%) are people in their 20s, sports, video games, movie watching, anime, etc. are all hobbies, since they are things we do for fun in our spare time.

And obviously I don't wanna pick up a hobby to impress or make myself better, cause what's the point in that? That's so boring >_>

 

[Rollo]

People in my class are lacking SO many normal human male attributes. I came from a sort of a different pathway to med school and am older but still.....i dont get it.

I told a few people I took apart my macbook pro to replace the keyboard and they were like ZOMGZZGGZZZ "I dont have the mechanical skills for that" I was told by a friend. Wow really? You cant turn a few screws?

It just seems like people are really lacking a lot of "bro" skills.

I am an avid shooter and hunter and this REALLY blows peoples minds. OMG you have 15 guns?!??!?!?! What do you need all those guns for? I am a collector, I think the history of firearms is cool. Wowww thats really scary... and OMG you mean you are taking 2 days off next week to go hunting....and you arent even going to bring txtbooks with you to study???

From changing a tire, to basic "home" type repair skill, to using a soldering iron, to patching drywall.....many man skills are lacking.


Most of these people are really intelligent, real hardworking individuals...but I am downright scared at the lack of common sense I constantly see. Its like they spent so much time being good little academic drones their whole lives and forgot to learn how to be a normal human male.

Anyone other "bros" notice this stuff about your classmates?

I blame the parents. Most med students' parents coddled them growing up because they were bright little kids and didn't need to know anything except study hard and get good grades. There was no motivation for these kids to learn basic skills because whenever a need for it came up, the parents were there to take care of it.

Fast forward as adults, and they are in medical school. How convenient it is to use "I don't have time because I'm studying a lot" excuse to get out of learning a craft or a household skill?

True that this field demands that you be one-dimensional but I think it's up to the individual to determine how much of themselves they will let this field absorb.

And echo the "weird looks you get when you mention guns" comment. Apparently, it's too classy to own or discuss guns anymore.

 

[JackShephard MD]

I don't think it's fair to be critical of people lacking "bro skills."

I'm not one of them, I've done my fair share of the things you mentioned. Different people have different strengths. That is OK. It isn't anyone's fault, because it isn't a problem.

These threads on SDN about not liking classmates seem to be overly critical of people.

 

[DancinSarah]

I don't think it's fair to be critical of people lacking "bro skills."

I'm not one of them, I've done my fair share of the things you mentioned. Different people have different strengths. That is OK. It isn't anyone's fault, because it isn't a problem.

These threads on SDN about not liking classmates seem to be overly critical of people.

Frankly I find the entire "bro skills" distinction rather silly. I wonder how often these really self-reliant people chop their own wood for heat or drill for water?

 

[OrkidLover]

These threads on SDN about not liking classmates seem to be overly critical of people.

I agree. I mean, I'm pretty unpopular in my class, and have only a few people (4-5) that I would hang out with outside. It's not because I have a significant other or anything. I come from the other side of the country and it's difficult for me to make a conscious effort at finding friends.

But some time a while ago I've just accepted the fact that I don't have a lot in common with the majority of my classmates, and that's okay. It's like high school 2.0 in that most people get along fine with the majority but have your core group of people you relate to well. Sure there are a few super popular people, but we don't have to be exactly like that to enjoy this long journey. At the end of the day, I've still got my family and great friends...even if they happen to be far away for the time being.

 

[Shnurek]

Frankly I find the entire "bro skills" distinction rather silly. I wonder how often these really self-reliant people chop their own wood for heat or drill for water?

I wouldn't mind some physical labor to brighten up my day. Exercise spurs neurogenesis, keeps you healthy and is so much better than any gym membership where all you are breathing in is air conditioned air. Or those folks that ride their bikes/run marathons in the polluted city, I just shake my head at them.

In any case I really have no respect for a man that can't change a lightbulb or can't check their car's oil level. Drilling for water is a bit extreme however.

 

[Dr Love]

There are only a few people in my class that I absolutely wouldn't want to spend time with outside of class, but there are also only a few that I would actually make the effort to try and hang out with outside of class. I'm neutral with most folks - I'm not super excited about spending time with them, but that doesn't mean I dislike them.

I agree with your sentiment though, OP, and I know that's a minor concern for me too. Just find people that you like and hang out with them. You don't have to like everyone.

That's pretty much how it is for me too.

 

[KnuxNole]

I dunno how to chop wood or use a gun or fix crazy mechanical things, and I don't care. Know why? Cause I don't ever need to do any of that crap! lol

 

[islandCrazy]

There is very few people that actually like more than 10% of their classmates. Most people just know how to fake it really well.