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But I hear so much about how competitive it is.

I am an osteopathic student at NYCOM and was wondering about getting into non-invasive cardiology. I do realize the extra years and the time commitment, but I was wondering if there is anyone out there that knows about competitiveness, lifestyle, and salary of a noninvasive cardiologist.

Also, I was thinking about if there were ways for an internist to do more cardiology without having a fellowship, like being board certified in diagnostic testing without having a fellowship.

Help Please! And I am already on Scutwork.com, so any more advice is helpful!
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I am a resident interested in applying for cardiology, so I know a little about the current status, and I also work with a cardiology group in NY. You may look at all the info on number of spots, number of applicants, etc. etc., but honestly the only way is to just look at what's happening. You have to look at current people who are getting spots and look at current attendings doing cardiology. Right now it is indeed a competitive fellowship, but it is not really as bad as a lot of posters on here have made it out to be in prior posts. By numbers, it looks like it is quite difficult, but the fact is, most people are getting spots. There are lots of cardiology spots, it just depends on where one wants to go. You are at NYCOM, so you are fortunate in that there are lots of cards fellowships in your area. The word on the street is that the lifestyle stinks, but in actuality it really depends on what you want. Some cardiologists really want to make a lot of money so they have tons of patients and they work like mad. Others are fortunate enough to be in a group practice with people they share the workload (and call) with. I know cardiologists at both ends of the spectrum. I know some who work like mad, and do quite well financially, and others who don't kill themselves...and to be honest, they do pretty well too. If you want to do interventional stuff, usually that's busier. In the area around where you are, there are tons of cardiologists, so one has the choice of working a little less if they like (there are other people in the neighborhood to take the patients you don't want). I don't mean to say that the work can be easy...cardiology is hard work either way, but it isn't always like people make it out to be. Now the fellowship, that's another story...the fellowship IS indeed very busy and very hard work. But it's only 3 years if you want general cards.
As far as your other question, that's kinda tricky. Lots of cardiologists double as their patient's internist (PCP), but you're asking about doing cardiology stuff without the fellowship. There are training courses a doc can take in things like echo, etc. but to be honest, most of the people who require this type of stuff will see a cardiologist.
 
hey DR, what is the life style of EP docs as compared to general, noninvasive cardiologists?
 
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most people are getting spots.
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Can you roughly estimate the percentage of those interested that actually gets spots?
 
I have recently become really fascinated with cardiology despite a strong distaste for medicine. It is the story of my life. (I also hate general peds. but love peds heme/onc.) Anyway, I would hate to do a IM residency and not match in cards, because I know that I would end up just doing another residency probably in Anesth/CC. I really hate primary care!! So, what is the ratio of applicants to spots? Besides research and making the right contacts, what can one to prove they are worthy of such a spot?
 
It sounds like you are somewhat uncertain as to what drives you. Regardless of what subspecialty one does, either in the adult or pedo world, one is, first and foremost, an internist or pediatrician. PD's for fellowships want solid, strong candidates -- if your dislike of both adult and pediatric medicine is so strong, I wonder how you intend to 1) happily make it through a demanding 3-year residency, and 2) impress subspecialty faculty enough through certain 'intangibles' (such as interest in specialty, having a strong positive attitude, etc.) so as to obtain better than solid letters of recommendation?
 
Scarlet:

Maybe you didn't mean to seem harsh and judgemental, but your post is just that. I am only a third year and have not done my peds or IM rotations yet, so don't I deserve to be confused? Excuse me for not having mapped out my life this early. Anyway, I have enjoyed my exposure to those fields in my first two years and hopefully my clinical experience will show me which I favor.

As far as how I will look to IM or Peds staff.... I hated my first two years of med school, but I smiled my way through it and got all positive comments. And they were not generic. It was a means to an end just like a general IM or Peds residency will be. Trust me, I have seen many of my family members smile every day for many years while working jobs they hated. My philosophy is not to attach my name to anything that is crappy. Thus, I am a very hard and cheerful worker and all who know me attest to that. So, worry about yourself and not me please. I will succeed at all I undertake. That I promise you.
 
I, for one, didn't think Scarlet_fire's post was either harsh or judgmental. Rather, I found it quite insightful. It's hard for me to imagine being a cardiologist that is repelled by "medicine." Moreover, expressing an "hatred" towards primary care seems a bit overstated if not pretentious, particularly for a medical student who has yet to rotate in pediatrics or internal medicine. This bashing of primary care seems all too pervasive amongst America's future physicians...kinda scary really...
 
Perhaps I'm confused. Many outpatient cardiologist I shadow with also see patients as an internal med, but they just see more patients with CV probs. Also, in both outpatient and inpatient, most patients have multiple medical problems not just isolated cardiology probs that a cardiologist do solve altogether.

And also, if your distaste is primary care, why not do cardiothoracic surgery? One can do general surgery and pick out of the entire spectrum. That is still cardiology/cardiologist.

Originally posted by Christiangirl
Scarlet:

Maybe you didn't mean to seem harsh and judgemental, but your post is just that. I am only a third year and have not done my peds or IM rotations yet, so don't I deserve to be confused? Excuse me for not having mapped out my life this early. Anyway, I have enjoyed my exposure to those fields in my first two years and hopefully my clinical experience will show me which I favor.

As far as how I will look to IM or Peds staff.... I hated my first two years of med school, but I smiled my way through it and got all positive comments. And they were not generic. It was a means to an end just like a general IM or Peds residency will be. Trust me, I have seen many of my family members smile every day for many years while working jobs they hated. My philosophy is not to attach my name to anything that is crappy. Thus, I am a very hard and cheerful worker and all who know me attest to that. So, worry about yourself and not me please. I will succeed at all I undertake. That I promise you.
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If I do private practice cardiology, I doubt I will see patients as an internist. That is not how I will build my practice. It can be done; The fellow in my lab has a husband that did just this until he got burned out and went into an academic setting. Now he does solely cardiology, so it can be done. He gets very complicated patients and does not therefore have time for non cardiology issues. Those patients are referred to other physicians within the hospital.

I did Peds and IM rotations during my second year. In my school, we do them both years but have more responsibilities as a third yeat. I haven't done them in third year yet. Thus, my statement is not without merit Bartholemew. I did seven weeks of IM and it was more than enough for me. Did six in Peds. Furthermore, I find your statement to be pretentious that you would think all med students should like medicine. Why? They don't all like surgery, anesthesia, radiology, etc. so why should everyone like medicine? Different strokes for different folks. I don't think everyone should expect all med students to want to do primary care. Don't you think people should like the field they choose? Am I wrong to want to be happy? I am not bashing primary care by saying that I hate it. I am not saying that it sucks, just that it is not for me. I think you are being sensitive. If you like it, go for it. We do need more. However, don't force me to align myself with your desires.

I am considering CV surgery, but I am more interested in diagnosing not just cutting/correcting what someone else has discovered. That is why I would do interventional/invasive.
 
His point was that cardiology is a part of internal "medicine," so he cannot see how one can love cardiology and hate internal med. What you propose is possible; however, I do agree that one should have a deep and curious understanding of medicine if the advancing field of internal cardiology is the field of choice, as int med and cardiology is interrelated and part of the whole.
 
I understand Christiangirl's concerns... I also knew I wasn't gonna do general medicine when I finished residency. It's not that I hated IM, it's that I didn't like dealing with the intangable / wastebasket diagnoses (e.g.: chronic low back pain, fibromyalgia, irritable bowel synd) which seemed to dominate my residency clinic. There just didn't seem to be enough real medicine, and everytime something really interesting came along, they were referred to specialists...

So, I knew I'd do fellowship in something and now I'm doing cardiology. But, I would be happy doing other subspecialties (pulm/CC, Neph).

My advice would be, don't shy away from IM if you know you don't want to be a generalist, there are many options available to you when you are done with residency. However, if you'll only be happy with cardiology, you may want to re-consider. DR alludes that getting a fellowship spot is relatively easy... It isn't. Many excellent applicants don't match every year. 4 residents from my program applied for CV last year and only one matched. (Okay, I realize this is an n=4 and not representative of the whole country.) Our CV program had >300 applicants last year and interviewed 30 for 3 positions. The total applicant pool last year was >1500 for 600 positions... (not imposible, but competitive).

If you do cardiology, you'll be busy enough with heart patients that you wouldn't need to or have the time to see general medicine patients.

Good luck...
 
[Don't you think people should like the field they choose? Am I wrong to want to be happy? I am not bashing primary care by saying that I hate it. I am not saying that it sucks, just that it is not for me. I think you are being sensitive. If you like it, go for it. We do need more. However, don't force me to align myself with your desires.

I am considering CV surgery, but I am more interested in diagnosing not just cutting/correcting what someone else has discovered. That is why I would do interventional/invasive. [/B][/QUOTE]

I think someone needs a hug...

FYI: doing interventional/invasive, quite frankly, very well may be what others in your group (i.e. a *non-invasive* cardiologist) have already diagnosed. Please do your homework before you post broad statements, otherwise it would help to phrase your uncertainties in the form of a question.
 
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Scarlet, I think you need a hug. First of all, I asked a question which NO one (but RTK) has responded to but instead offered only their opinions about my committment to cardiology based on my dislike of medicine. Therefore, after this thread I do not intend to post further as it has NOT helped at all and I don't have time to explain to YOU my side. Your opinion simply does not matter to me and I have no uncertainties for you to clarify as NO one except RTK has even clarified my initial question.

As far as my last statement, yes, as an interventionalist I would likely be helping my patients after diagnoses have already been made in some circumstances. HOWEVER, I would have a chance of making more diagnoses myself than I would primarily as a surgeon. Don't most patients go straight to clinic/ER/some PC area before surgery or do you need to do your "homework" on that?

Two pieces of advice to you. Why don't YOU think about the responses of others and try to see where they are coming from before you offer unfounded criticism based on semantics? My statement was a gross generalization, but I think a person with limited logical skills could see where I was coming from. Second of all, why don't you answer a person's question instead of offering your opinion on something that was not asked of you? I think the fact that you assume people may want your advice when it was not asked for is egotistical. Get over yourself.

Please don't bother posting again for my benefit. I will not respond.

RTK: Thank you so much for your advice. It was very helpful and I am on the same page as you. :) Best wishes.
 
The people here WERE trying to answer your question. Their answer was, having a strong distaste for primary care is not going to do you any good in securing a cardiology spot because PD will not be impressed by that attitude during residency and weak letter of recs. I think you should thank scarlet for this advice rather than scold her.

The only reason you like RTK's comment is because he focused on the positives, whereas everyone else was trying to help you on your negatives. I dont understand why ppl take sdn so personally; it's a computer screen of a bunch of strangers discussing issues. Who cares if anyone judges anything on it, would it make any difference in your life? Chill out.

Originally posted by Christiangirl
Besides research and making the right contacts, what can one to prove they are worthy of such a spot?
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That's your opinion. The point is I didn't ask whether or not my dislike would affect my ability to secure a position. I asked about what else I could do besides research. No answer. I asked about ratio of applicants/spots. Only answered by RTK. Do you follow now? RTK focused on answering my question which is why I liked his post. You don't know me enough to analyze me, so you chill out. By the way, no nothing said on SDN affects my life. I take all advice with a grain of salt. Which is what I stated in my previous post which is why I don't understand why you continued the thread. It is dead. Find a new thread to post on please.
 
This is why I think christianity is a bunch of bull. Cant imagine the belief is that ppl like you go to heaven just because one believes jesus died on the cross.

And yes, they did answer your question. Besides research, you can try to enjoy primary care more to get better letter of recs. Who's the one who's not following.

You're not the center of the universe. You didnt start this thread, and we/this thread doesnt answer your questions. Get over yourself. We can post here as we please regardless of whether we are answering your questions or not.
 
Originally posted by Christiangirl
Anyway, I would hate to do a IM residency and not match in cards
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Christiangirl, you took the words right out of my mouth. I am terrified fo that scenerio, i.e. not getting a fellowship and being stuck as a general internist. I'd rather stock shelves at Walmart...seriously.

Anyway, in the end that's what will probably discourage me from pursuing an IM subspecialty...the odds are simply too daunting.

Plus, all those added years of uncertainty about your career...too scary.
 
Originally posted by bartholomew
Moreover, expressing an "hatred" towards primary care seems a bit overstated if not pretentious, particularly for a medical student who has yet to rotate in pediatrics or internal medicine. This bashing of primary care seems all too pervasive amongst America's future physicians...kinda scary really...
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Whatever, I'm a third year also, and I am 100% positive that I, too, hate primary care. It doesn't take too much exposure to primary care to figure out that you despise it.

Plus, we need all types in medicine. There is no pirmary-care doc shortage. Everytime they try to predict shortages...whether they're attempting to forecast gereralist or specialist shortages...they're always wrong.

Anyway, if there's any shortages right now, they're in specialties. Many people don't have access to specialists. Hell, the waiting list to see a Derm here is >6 months. I can schedule an appt w/ an FP right now and get seen next week.

Anyway, I don't know why you're being so judgmental, bartholomew. Although choosing a specialty is tough, most people can easily (and early-on) identify the fields they do NOT want to go into.

With that said, I'd rather be diagnosed with Crohn's than end up as an FP or IM doc.
 
Originally posted by profunda
Their answer was, having a strong distaste for primary care is not going to do you any good in securing a cardiology spot because PD will not be impressed by that attitude during residency and weak letter of recs.
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I think Christaingirl had already made the point that, of course, she wasn't going to advertise her distaste for primary care, nor was she going to go through her residency with 'attitude.'

Her point was, she's faked it this far, she can continue to fake it.

BTW, most of us do this. You wouldn't believe the rotations I've despised, yet feigned interest in, and procured a High Pass.

Its called "playing the game." And most of us learn to do it well.
 
I agree. Christiangirl is being honest. And I respect that. I myself have no interest in being a general internist. I hope that I can land one of the fellowships in GI or Cards. I don't see anything wrong in that.
 
My response was not directed at honesty. An attitude is what she wants and an attitude she got. Feigning her distaste/attitude sure isnt working on this forum, bcuz it's definitely showing all over this thread. Not judging her character, but judging her responses.
 
It's not attitude, she's simply stating what her interests are and aren't. A lot of people endure residencies they can't stand in order to go onto the field they're interested in. For example, I knew a plastic surgeon who HATED her general surgery residency, but loves plastics.

When you're in a situation like that, you just find your motivation in different places...instead of her enthusiasm stemming from a love of doing lap chole's, she just focused on that plastics fellowship that was awaiting her.

Christiangirl, and others who want to pursue IM subspecialties, can do the same thing. Their desire to go into cards, GI, CC, nephro, or whatever can provide the "light at the end of the tunnel" while suffering through their IM residency.

It's just an added hoop to jump through. We all have aspects of our training that we abhor. I know a student who wants to go into psych...you think he's enjoying his ortho rotation? It's all the same. Some times you just have to "suck it up," put a smile on your face and eat sh|t for a few years in order to get where you're going.

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Profunda. You are so obnoxious and amusing to me. It's funny that you are so offended that you want to attack me personally and my belief system. Grow up and get a life. The fact that you are a busy body and have no life is evident. And before you judge my attitude, correct your own. YOU have exhibited one as well, so you are being the pot calling the kettle black. Finally, as far your comment that "feigning a like of distaste" on this forum has not worked for me... I haven't tried. Why would I? You are not my superior and I am not requesting a letter from you. So, I am being honest as Teufelhunden remarked. I don't need to lie to you because you don't know me. Buy a clue. Furthermore, your comments about Christianity show that you did judge my character, so don't try to backtalk now that I have supporters. Be yourself.

You and everyone else are free to post whatever you want. I am merely saying it is in vain. Why not post in another thread if you don't want to answer the topic. You make no sense whatsover. Otherwise, there would be no point of having separate threads. But if you are that immature that you simply want to write in attempts to annoy me, go ahead. You are wasting your time, not mine. I find it humorous that you care that much about me to waste your time in such efforts.

I know my question and it was not answered in the statements I previously cited. So, IT IS YOUR OPINION that it was. NO ONE ever said "You should like PC." They said "I don't see how you would get to cardiology because you don't like medicine." Learn to follow arguments.

Teufelhunden and Al Pacino. Thank you for understanding what I am saying and making the world aware that my position is not a unique one. I honestly think some people are so OFFENDED of comments regarding people not liking their specialty that they have to make personal attacks. So immature. I don't like PC and never will. I will "fake the funk" and play the game well though if I have to. However, the reason why I wanted to know the ratio/applicant is for the exact reason you said. I probably would end up in pysch myself (as a patient) if I have to do general IM for more than 3 years. Thus, I probably will not match IM. Especially, if I can't be honest with my colleagues (not superiors) about my dislike which is obviously the case based on this thread.
 
You are going to tell me not to judge when you are judging me? Immature? Give me a break. Yes it was my opinion the answer was given. All my posts are based on my opinions.
I believe in jesus christ's teachings, but I dont believe in christianity as a system and because of other christians. I have a right to state that as an opinion.

Who cares if you have supporters. All you have done so far is seek supporters because you are insecure. I dont need supporters I am deep in my own beliefs. Like I said this is not your thread. There are other questions going around, not just yours, so I can post whenever I feel like speaking. And if I dont agree with you, I speak against it. What are you going to do now, gain supporters against me and uproot me. Give me a break.


Originally posted by Christiangirl
Profunda. You are so obnoxious and amusing to me. It's funny that you are so offended that you want to attack me personally and my belief system. Grow up and get a life. The fact that you are a busy body and have no life is evident. And before you judge my attitude, correct your own. YOU have exhibited one as well, so you are being the pot calling the kettle black. Finally, as far your comment that "feigning a like of distaste" on this forum has not worked for me... I haven't tried. Why would I? You are not my superior and I am not requesting a letter from you. So, I am being honest as Teufelhunden remarked. I don't need to lie to you because you don't know me. Buy a clue. Furthermore, your comments about Christianity show that you did judge my character, so don't try to backtalk now that I have supporters. Be yourself.

You and everyone else are free to post whatever you want. I am merely saying it is in vain. Why not post in another thread if you don't want to answer the topic. You make no sense whatsover. Otherwise, there would be no point of having separate threads. But if you are that immature that you simply want to write in attempts to annoy me, go ahead. You are wasting your time, not mine. I find it humorous that you care that much about me to waste your time in such efforts.

I know my question and it was not answered in the statements I previously cited. So, IT IS YOUR OPINION that it was. NO ONE ever said "You should like PC." They said "I don't see how you would get to cardiology because you don't like medicine." Learn to follow arguments.

Teufelhunden and Al Pacino. Thank you for understanding what I am saying and making the world aware that my position is not a unique one. I honestly think some people are so OFFENDED of comments regarding people not liking their specialty that they have to make personal attacks. So immature. I don't like PC and never will. I will "fake the funk" and play the game well though if I have to. However, the reason why I wanted to know the ratio/applicant is for the exact reason you said. I probably would end up in pysch myself (as a patient) if I have to do general IM for more than 3 years. Thus, I probably will not match IM. Especially, if I can't be honest with my colleagues (not superiors) about my dislike which is obviously the case based on this thread.
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Originally posted by Christiangirl
I probably would end up in pysch myself (as a patient) if I have to do general IM for more than 3 years. Thus, I probably will not match IM. Especially, if I can't be honest with my colleagues (not superiors) about my dislike which is obviously the case based on this thread.
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It seems this thread has run its course, given that this topic is about Cardiology, which fortunately requires an IM residency.

What is puzzling is why Christiangirl insists on having the last word on every post, despite her numerous unmet promises to stop posting here?

As a 3rd year medical student, you are quite astute for not confusing any of us as your superiors. As evidenced by your postings, we all are quite the opposite, and most appreciate your modest assessments. I am disgusted when I see fellow Christians failing to humble themselves, and am more disturbed that meaningful, focused discussion must dissolve into self-righteous proclamations. I'm sure there are other forums in cyberspace or elsewhere which allow for these issues to be addressed and resolved. I question whether a meaningful forum such as this is the place.
 
It's kinda sad that this forum seems so unsupportive of medical students considering IM fields.

I thought IM was a large umbrella; large enough to have room for those who aspire to be generalists, as well as those whose hearts are set on specializing.

Again, I don't hear surgeons chiding future plastics docs for not being enthusiastic about gen surg.

According to some of you, no one should aspire to be an IM specialist unless they're equally enthusiastic about general IM (?) That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Again, a lot of people jump through unpleasant hoops in pursuit of their goals. For those of you who enjoy general IM, that's wonderful...I'm happy you've found your niche. However, to many of us an IM residency is just an insufferable means to an end.

BTW, IM residents...a lot of this negative attitude amongst students towards IM is your own damn fault. At every hosptial I've been at, the IM residents are miseable wretches who will usually openly discourage students from entering IM.

Heck, a 40-something y/o IM attending at my hosptial just quit to enter a Derm residency. Seriously, if y'all are so damn happy to be doing IM, most of you sure aren't showing it.
 
I have no prob with her not enjoying IM. That is none of my business. She was just giving ppl fire because they suggest she put more enthusiasm in her IM for better letter of rec, and she started firing at ppl, so i gave her some fire back. my fire had nothing to do with her distaste of IM.
 
Profunda. I never told you not to judge me. I said you were judging my character because you denied it when Teufehunen stated the truth that you were. Again, try to keep up. I am not even going to entertain your ramblings about your Christian walk. That is between you and your God (whomever he may be). I never sought supporters. I sought people who could answer my questions. You on the other hand tried to jump on the bandwagon and go along with the previous posters who said I needed to like IM to succeed at cardiology, so I don't think you have your own mindset at all. Just my opinion. :) By the way, what are the other questions going around on this thread that you are now answering? Your last threads have only been angry retorts to me. Apparently, only you see them because I don't. Finally, you are once again incorrect in saying "She was just giving ppl fire because they suggest she put more enthusiasm in her IM for better letter of rec, and she started firing at ppl, so i gave her some fire back. my fire had nothing to do with her distaste of IM." No one ever said I should put more enthusiam into IM to match cards. I SAID THAT I could. They said they didn't know how I could get through to cardiology because my dislike would shine through. Once again, try to keep up.

Scarlet. I changed my mind about posting. Last I checked this was America and that was my constitutional right. Am I wrong on that? If so, let me know and I will heed to that new amendment that I must have missed in my US History class. So, why are you puzzled dear? Once again, you have no idea of my Christian walk and I am amazed by how you and profunda sensing you have no valid argument want to discuss mine. What would you have done if my name were not Christiangirl? :) Be quiet, huh? This thread has nothing to do with my belief system and I believe that you two probably should sweep around your own front door. How is your walk with Jesus? What have you done on this thread to assert that he is the Almighty King? How have you demonstrated the love of Jesus Christ? You haven't. Why should I humble myself to you? You haven't said anything that would make me feel I should. I humble myself to God and to my Christian disciples and neither you nor profunda have demonstrated your faith to me as something I want to attain. Until you do, you need not worry about my faith. You show none yourself. Funny how easy it is to judge others and not yourself. Furthermore, how has this conversation been focused? How have you made it focused? I was talking about cardiology and you and profunda diverted it to Christianity. Come on, be logical. You are demonstrating the self-righteousness you accuse me of. I repeat, pot calling the kettle black. I, too am sure there are other forums for you and profunda to have debates on who is and isn't a Christian. You and profunda seem to think this is the place to have these Christian discussions because you brought them up and now in later you contradict yourself. I don't think this is the place, so why don't you find them? You are such a hypocrite and you want me to humble myself to you? Please -- you can't even keep your story straight.
 
I (and most others will surely agree) feel that this thread has degenerated into a piece of opinionated ****

Thank god all SDN posters are not like the folks I've seen on here. Amen to that.
 
I agree about the nature of the thread triple degree. Unfortunately, if you look in SDN further you will see that in fact this is the future of SDN. There is at least one of these types of threads in almost forum. Sad but true. It wasn't this way five years ago....
 
You've contributed to the "sad"ness of this thread and attitude.

I'm not going to continue my discussions with you. Reading your responses, I cant see how one with your intelligence level is going to comprehend anything I am saying. What a waste of time trying.

Originally posted by Christiangirl
I agree about the nature of the thread triple degree. Unfortunately, if you look in SDN further you will see that in fact this is the future of SDN. There is at least one of these types of threads in almost forum. Sad but true. It wasn't this way five years ago....
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I think christian girl goes to school at ****.
 
your point being...

Originally posted by me109cito
I think christian girl goes to school at ****.
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Profunda. You know, I have to thank you for your last post. I don't know why mecito would like to attempt to expose my identity. However, I have reported him to the moderator -- for your information. I am sure he too would like to know your point. Anyway, profunda you seem to think that I am asserting I am innocent in how "sad this thread has become." Never said that, but I will say that you have not demonstrated an intelligence level of someone I would choose to waste further time with either. I am not innocent, but I did not start the downhill nature. But I am glad that you are choosing to stop responding. The thread should have been stopped 20 posts ago.

Me109cito: Not to mention, you obviously think you are astute and are not. Again, please explain to us all what your point is -- other than demonstrating that you are a *****. People like you compromise the ability of this being an anonymous forum and I hope you are banned. As I mentioned this is not surprising as someone went ahead on the Allopathic forum and identified many students at NW. It just furthers my argument of how this forum has gone down hill over the years.
 
Me109cito is a third (most likely) or fourth year student at ****.
 
This is amazing. I have been reported to the moderator...for what? I have no fear; I havent done anything deserving of ostracism.

You on the other hand, using such terms on other members such as "obnoxious" and "*****." You call me109cito a ***** and accuse other members for bring this forum downhill by disclosure of anonymity, and then you slap by by disclosing just the same. Nice way of eye for an eye and contributing to bringing this forum downhill.

Who cares who "started it." That's the line coming out of my 5 yr old cousin. As astute as you are, I am surprised you used that line. Maybe your definition of astute is different than everyone else's.

Originally posted by Christiangirl
Me109cito is a third (most likely) or fourth year student at U of W.
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LOL

Can't people ask a question on this forum without some hypersensitive poster needing to analyze their post and delve into their motivations for posting it. Chill out people and get out of your 3rd year psych mindset when posting on this forum. Not every question on specialty choice has to turn into a diatribe about why everyone need 100% enjoy what they do, nor should it turn into a very weird and drawn out pissing contest between 2 individuals who find the others SDN tone "hurtful".


Get out more people.
 
It's not that bad. It's just christiangirl filibustering.
 
Originally posted by profunda
It's not that bad. It's just christiangirl filibustering.
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I hereby make a motion for a vote for cloture
 
Profunda. I don't know what you are talking about. I was referriing to me109cito with reporting to the moderator. Your level of comprehension is amazing to me. What grade are you in with those skills? My goodness. I don't have any reason to report you. For the record, I thought you were finished with this thread. You are the one filibustering with your ramblings. Again, try to keep up. And see your own hypocritical actions before you point out my faults. I divuldged the identity of me109cito because I decided to try to see his side. Maybe he thought he was doing me a favor. I'd like to see the best in people. So, I decided to return his favor. :)

I second your motion Scarlet_Fire. I hereby declare a truce with you. I actually did not post all day yesterday in an attempt to let this thread die, but I can see it has nine lives.

By the way, orthoguy you have incited numerous "riots" in several forums. Anyone doing a quick search could find them. You crack me up. You seem to be Profunda part 2, just trying to keep things going.
 
these postings amuse me. i just happened to read through some postings for this thread and it seems most of the responses are just a result of misunderstandings. profunda misunderstood the whole 'reporting' business...although christiangirl, if you go through your posting, it is a little confusing initially to figure out who you were addressing.

anyway, i'm REALLY good at killing threads, so perhaps i can do that for this one as well.
 
You dont have to explain why you're a revengeful sluf. You are who you are.

Originally posted by Christiangirl
Profunda. I don't know what you are talking about. I was referriing to me109cito with reporting to the moderator. Your level of comprehension is amazing to me. What grade are you in with those skills? My goodness. I don't have any reason to report you. For the record, I thought you were finished with this thread. You are the one filibustering with your ramblings. Again, try to keep up. And see your own hypocritical actions before you point out my faults. I divuldged the identity of me109cito because I decided to try to see his side. Maybe he thought he was doing me a favor. I'd like to see the best in people. So, I decided to return his favor. :)

I second your motion Scarlet_Fire. I hereby declare a truce with you. I actually did not post all day yesterday in an attempt to let this thread die, but I can see it has nine lives.

By the way, orthoguy you have incited numerous "riots" in several forums. Anyone doing a quick search could find them. You crack me up. You seem to be Profunda part 2, just trying to keep things going.
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Originally posted by profunda
You dont have to explain why you're a revengeful sluf. You are who you are.
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Name calling isn't appropriate in this internal medicine forum and is a violation of the TOS agreement. This thread will be closed due to member request. No one has contacted me about any TOS violation of this or any other thread, but they should feel free to do so in the future. For those users who feel that they were insulted in this or any other thread, I would encourage you to continue posting and you can set users who you are bothering you on "ignore" or contact a moderator so that the user can be banned if they are continually violating the TOS agreement (flaming other users isn't allowed, arguing is though).
 
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