I used to work at Abercrombie. Should I leave this out of my app?

[miss chievous]

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The summer before I began college, and the summer between freshman-sophomore year, I worked at A&F. After all the controversy lately, should I just leave it out?

 

[sakabato93]

The summer before I began college, and the summer between freshman-sophomore year, I worked at A&F. After all the controversy lately, should I just leave it out?

You should be fine. Only the CEO is controversial. Workers can't be held accountable for the CEO's words.

 

[gettheleadout]

I honestly can't imagine that hurting you.

 

[Cinclus]

I would include it. They won't look down on you for it; it was a retail job at a clothing store that happens to have an offensive CEO. Not your problem.

 

[Mornhavon]

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[TheShaker]

You'll probably have to explain, why, as one of the beautiful people, you've decided to spend the best years of your life buried under books instead of modelling and having sex and other beautiful people things 😕

You are your avatar right now aren't you?

 

[Status Sciaticus]

I would include it. They won't look down on you for it; it was a retail job at a clothing store that happens to have an offensive CEO. Not your problem.

Was the whole 'offensive thing' that he didnt want to make A&F clothing for fat chicks?

 

[miss chievous]

Was the whole 'offensive thing' that he didnt want to make A&F clothing for fat chicks?

Haha...yes...

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Haha...yes...

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I dont think its necessarily a bad thing..

Companies like Gucci, Prada, or Versace have really high prices to target their consumers to the celebrities and the rich, thus removing the poor people.

Weight is just another specifier, much like income level.

And IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

 

[jeffs office]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I dont think its necessarily a bad thing..

Companies like Gucci, Prada, or Versace have really high prices to target their consumers to the celebrities and the rich, thus removing the poor people.

Weight is just another specifier, much like income level.

And IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

OMG

 

[Loveless]

And IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

Da fuq?

Yoga pants are proof that God wants man to be happy.

 

[TriagePreMed]

Lol I worked at one of their pathetic stores too when I was young. I needed the money.

To answer your question, it should have no negative effect on you.

 

[mehc012]

IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

So...you think they should sell it in plus sizes, then? Cuz if it's only available in an 8, more people will squeeze into it than if the 12 is available!

 

[lilwayne]

Actually, I think it will help your application...it shows that you can keep a calm head while working under complete and utter ***holes...kind of like what you will have to do in your residency.

 

[dahassa]

The summer before I began college, and the summer between freshman-sophomore year, I worked at A&F. After all the controversy lately, should I just leave it out?

I worked there and put it on my app. It's all good. If anything, working in college helps your application.

 

[Benedictus123]

Of all the things to worry about with applying to medical school, this has to rank right around with "what power tie projects the most confidence when I interview?"

 

[Girly X]

Adcoms value your ability to work with others/people skills, deal with the general public, understand how a work environment operates, professionalism etc. So a job (almost any job) can only help as long as you also have the standard medical experience/clinical volunteering.

 

[ToldYouSo]

I don't get why people got so offended by them. Their clothing/brand/image has always been exclusionary and no one has to buy their clothes if they don't want to. You don't see skinny people picketing lane bryant because they cater to larger women.

A&F was the first American company to sign safety pacts after the Bangladesh clothing factory collapse, while most other brands like Gap and Walmart have not because they don't want to be legally responsible for working conditions there.

Where is the outrage there?

 

[medCR]

I also used to work for Hollister, which falls under Abercrombie's company. I'm keeping it in my application because I ended up working there for 2 1/2 years (long-term commitment, eh?). The general consensus seems to be that no matter how whimsical, you should include any jobs you hold. I really can't say I'm entirely surprised by the CEO, the entire time I was working under their company it didn't really strike me as a "wholesome" brand image...

 

[Ost3oclast]

You'll probably have to explain, why, as one of the beautiful people, you've decided to spend the best years of your life buried under books instead of modelling and having sex and other beautiful people things 😕

Haha!

 

[Nymphicus]

I would recommend putting it on your application as employment.

 

[Ost3oclast]

What happened with their CEO anyway?

 

[touchpause13]

nothing wrong with putting it on there. the only assumption that an adcom might make is that you are attractive - which isn't a bad thing obvi

 

[mirimonster]

Clearly if you worked at A&F, you hate the adipose-challenged and you're going to be a terrible doctor.

/thread

(sarcasm)

 

[Medstart108]

Ok so now the adcom knows you aren't ugly. I'd say that helps your app lol.

 

[KnuxNole]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I dont think its necessarily a bad thing..

Companies like Gucci, Prada, or Versace have really high prices to target their consumers to the celebrities and the rich, thus removing the poor people.

Weight is just another specifier, much like income level.

And IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

Ladies on welfare with Versace bags and Gucci shoes say otherwise

 

[PapaGuava]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I dont think its necessarily a bad thing..

Companies like Gucci, Prada, or Versace have really high prices to target their consumers to the celebrities and the rich, thus removing the poor people.

Weight is just another specifier, much like income level.

And IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

This is somewhat agreeable. I find it kind of outrageous for people to blame the company for their kids not able to enjoy their clothes. Other stores and options are available. His comments weren't needed i suppose haha. Why do these kids have to follow Abecrombie? sounds like more herding of sheep. [offtopic]

[thread post] Ofcourse, include the work experience. It cant hurt you.

 

[r0703]

I also used to work for Hollister, which falls under Abercrombie's company. I'm keeping it in my application because I ended up working there for 2 1/2 years (long-term commitment, eh?). The general consensus seems to be that no matter how whimsical, you should include any jobs you hold. I really can't say I'm entirely surprised by the CEO, the entire time I was working under their company it didn't really strike me as a "wholesome" brand image...

I've been at hollister for a while too, are you putting the title as "model" or just something like sales representative? Even though it's technically called model, I don't want it to sound stupid haha

 

[Status Sciaticus]

So...you think they should sell it in plus sizes, then? Cuz if it's only available in an 8, more people will squeeze into it than if the 12 is available!

No I think that with enough criticism, the fat chicks will either stop wearing it, or actually do something about their body to look better. Its called tough love.

Da fuq?

Yoga pants are proof that God wants man to be happy.

I concur. I am talking about the yoga pants epidemic regarding the overweight trying to fit into small yoga pants. Pic for reference

 

[Audiojb]

Put it on there, it will only help you. Commitments to jobs "should" be seen as good, and most of us do have bills to pay through college.

Ive held the same job since highschool, nearing 7 years now. I plan to include that, as you deal with people and actually learn that there is more to life than studying and sitting around a school campus all day.

 

[Whack Get Out]

I've been at hollister for a while too, are you putting the title as "model" or just something like sales representative? Even though it's technically called model, I don't want it to sound stupid haha

I wrote salesman haha

 

[I Love Cats]

Of course include it, but the image you submit with secondaries better be hawt, or else they'll know you lied.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Haha hilarious. I worked there in HS and put it in my app as model. I didn't see the harm in it and neither should you! It can be a funny conversation starter actually.

It is kind of preparing you for the opposite of an OR experience.

Lighting: Dark vs Bright
Sound: Loud vs Quiet
Smell: Strong "good" vs Strong "bad"

Makes sense no?

 

[Planes2Doc]

Ladies on welfare with Versace bags and Gucci shoes say otherwise

🤣 Bahahahahahahaha!!! That's hilarious!

People need to stop being so PC in this country. Of course everyone is going to target specific segments of the population. The beautiful thing about a free market economy is people vote with their wallets. If you don't want to shop at Abercrombie & Fitch, then don't shop at Abercrombie & Fitch. As for the OP, this will be old news soon enough, if not already. Does anyone remember that "Girlcott?"

Also, I guess if you do something questionable on SDN, the thing to always to do is volunteer your time to speak to kids telling them how you shouldn't judge people by their weight and anyone should be able to wear whatever brands they want. 🙄

 

[alexanne]

I don't think it was just about excluding heavier people...

From an article I was reading earlier: "We go after the cool kids," he was quoted as saying, in reference to his company's target demographic. "A lot of people don't belong, and they can't belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."

Of course companies have the right to be exclusionary, but that doesn't mean that its okay to be a jerk about it. He's marginalizing a group of people. A group of "uncool" people. Wth? It seems arbitrary, but they have a track record of discrimination. They've even been sued before for hiring a disproportionate amount of white people, while using the minorities in a less-visible jobs.
People too have the right to speak out about it, and so far they have succeeded in giving the company a bad rap - stockholders are maaaad.

But anyways, to the OP, if working for a questionable company was a negative for your app, most people in retail would be excluding their jobs also. You should be fine. 😉

 

[cs5910]

I had to put Victorias Secret "Model" on mine.... They didn't call us sales representatives!

Interesting that no one attacked VS for not making bras larger than DD....

 

[medCR]

I've been at hollister for a while too, are you putting the title as "model" or just something like sales representative? Even though it's technically called model, I don't want it to sound stupid haha

"Sales associate". My friends already already get a good laugh about the title "Model" I can only imagine what AdComs would think.

 

[ericksonj15]

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[amazing tekkers]

This thread is hilarity.

TBT I actually prefer american eagle apparel, although I hate being superficial.

 

[KnuxNole]

American Eagle has good clothes too. I'm also partial to H+M...mainly cause I also find clothes that cater to short people as well 😛

 

[Ost3oclast]

This thread is hilarity.

TBT I actually prefer american eagle apparel, although I hate being superficial.

American eagle jeans are the only jeans I can actually fit in for some reason. Love those things!

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

I had to put Victorias Secret "Model" on mine.... They didn't call us sales representatives!

Interesting that no one attacked VS for not making bras larger than DD....

Man, I bet you got a lot of interviews....

 

[galamabx]

you've decided to spend the best years of your life buried under books instead of modelling and having sex and other beautiful people things

 

[Mosa]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I dont think its necessarily a bad thing..

Companies like Gucci, Prada, or Versace have really high prices to target their consumers to the celebrities and the rich, thus removing the poor people.

Weight is just another specifier, much like income level.

And IDK about you, but I dont want to see overweight girls in clothes 3 sizes too small for them. we already have this epidemic with yoga pants.

I agree with this. The only mistake the CEO made in my eyes was being honest. I cited the Nike example where they also have a target demographic that excludes poor people. Class and size are just two factors that companies utilize when making their brands. Furthermore, in my experience, A&F actually runs their sizes a little bigger than other companies. So even though I am usually a small or even a medium at other places, here I have to wear an XS to get the same fit.

 

[gettheleadout]

This thread is hilarity.

TBT I actually prefer american eagle apparel, although I hate being superficial.

American Eagle has good clothes too. I'm also partial to H+M...mainly cause I also find clothes that cater to short people as well 😛

I agree, I still like the fit of AE polo's the best.

Man, I bet you got a lot of interviews....

Kinda doubt "man" is the proper term.

 

[Status Sciaticus]

I agree with this. The only mistake the CEO made in my eyes was being honest. I cited the Nike example where they also have a target demographic that excludes poor people. Class and size are just two factors that companies utilize when making their brands. Furthermore, in my experience, A&F actually runs their sizes a little bigger than other companies. So even though I am usually a small or even a medium at other places, here I have to wear an XS to get the same fit.

Thank you! Finally a girl who agrees.

Every time I try to explain this to a girl, they think I'm a douchebag for being shallow...

When I get called that then I dont sugar coat it anymore. I tell them that they are muffin-topping or that their rolls are showing and might cause temporary blindness...

 

[mehc012]

Thank you! Finally a girl who agrees.

Every time I try to explain this to a girl, they think I'm a douchebag for being shallow...

When I get called that then I dont sugar coat it anymore. I tell them that they are muffin-topping or that their rolls are showing and might cause temporary blindness...

Saying that people should wear clothes that fit ≠ people above a certain size shouldn't wear our clothes because we only like a certain demographic.

And anyone who thinks Nike is not targeting the poor demographic is kidding themselves. People actually save up for their Nike kicks.

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Saying that people should wear clothes that fit ≠ people above a certain size shouldn't wear our clothes because we only like a certain demographic.

And anyone who thinks Nike is not targeting the poor demographic is kidding themselves. People actually save up for their Nike kicks.

oh rly?

I bet those poor people have a lot more Nike gear than their rich counterparts...

saving up for nike kicks isnt the same thing as a rich person going in and buying all nike gear..
Same thing with high end designers... you might have one piece of clothing but the richer demographic will have a lot more of it and thus will be more associated with it than a poor person with just one article from that designer..

 

[mehc012]

oh rly?

I bet those poor people have a lot more Nike gear than their rich counterparts...

saving up for nike kicks isnt the same thing as a rich person going in and buying all nike gear..
Same thing with high end designers... you might have one piece of clothing but the richer demographic will have a lot more of it and thus will be more associated with it than a poor person with just one article from that designer..

I didn't say that their primary demographic was the poor, or that poor people would have more xyz than rich...but they're certainly not trying to exclude them; they're trying to get as many people (poor or not) as possible to buy their products for as high a price as they can afford to charge.

No comment on my first (more relevant) statement?

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

I agree, I still like the fit of AE polo's the best.


Kinda doubt "man" is the proper term.

Haha, I didn't mean in the literal sense of the word.

Honestly, if I see an app with "Victoria's Secret Model," I'm expecting nothing less than Candice Swanepoel.