I would say - he's right

Started by 2win
This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.
Get help with your application

Use all the free resources available to you from SDN: articles, guides, expert advising, forums discussions, and school research.

2win

Full Member
15+ Year Member
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad
I hope you fellows that you had a great Memorial day.
A new week is starting and I found an article that summarize what I am thinking at this moment about the current stock market. As a great anesthesia dude I am a great "investor"...
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3243528
by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D.

"This would normally be my time for a quiet Memorial Day at home.

But even as we seek calm, investors overseas are doing precisely the opposite.

They’re dumping U.S. assets.

They’re driving those assets down in price.

And they’re threatening to sink our entire economy into a THIRD phase of this crisis.

Remember: The first phase was the debt disaster. The second phase was the collapse in the economy. Now, in the third phase, Treasury bonds and the U.S. dollar are getting hit hard, largely due to foreign selling.

The latest drama began this past Thursday …

The supply of U.S. Treasury bonds dumped on the market was so overwhelming, even the Federal Reserve, with all its massive efforts to buy up bonds, could not stop the avalanche.


By the time most traders left for the weekend Friday afternoon, ALL of the gains in bond prices the Fed had been able to engineer in recent weeks were wiped out — vanquished by market forces beyond the Fed’s control.

Why The U.S. Government Is the Next Victim of the Market’s Revenge!
Look. In each successive phase of this debt crisis, investors have consistently attacked and destroyed the market value of institutions that owned large amounts of toxic assets — Countrywide Financial, Fannie Mae, Citigroup, Bank of America and many others.

The shares of these companies were pummeled; their ability to raise new capital, virtually extinguished.

Now it’s the U.S. government that’s the next victim of the market’s revenge.

Why?

Because the government never was — and never will be — immune to market selling. Like private corporations, it borrows. Like any borrower, it has creditors. And like all creditors, it’s ultimately up to THEM — not up to the borrower — to decide what to do with their money.

But unlike most borrowers, the U.S. government has arrogantly thumbed its nose at its creditors. Without remorse.

“We can do anything we damn please,” was the message from Uncle Sam.

“We can spend our money wantonly. We can bail out our giant corporations to our heart’s content. We can even debase our currency.

“But YOU, our creditors, are stuck with us. No matter what we do, you’ve got to keep loaning us more money, endlessly.”

Our creditors swallowed hard and tolerated this message for a while. But not now.

Now they’re fed up. They can’t take it anymore.

Now, explicitly or implicitly, the U.S. government has assumed the liability for TRILLIONS of dollars of bad mortgages, sour commercial paper, and sick consumer credit.

Now, directly or indirectly, the U.S. government has placed its own credit and credibility in grave jeopardy.

And now, our creditors are raving mad, dumping U.S. bonds and the U.S. dollar.

The Immediate Consequences …

Treasury bond prices aren’t the only U.S. assets plunging. The U.S. dollar is also plunging against major world currencies. It has just fallen below 6-month lows. It’s almost certainly going to fall further.
Gold has surged dramatically, coming within striking distance of the $1,000 level — and beyond.
Meanwhile, new, unexpected supplies of bonds are being tossed on the market on TOP of the massive supplies the Treasury must issue to finance its mammoth $1.84 trillion budget deficit estimated by the Obama administration for fiscal 2009.
Long-term interest rates are getting ready to soar far further. And as rates rise, consumers and businesses will have to pay through the nose to borrow. Or they won’t be able to borrow at any price.
You can expect a sweeping, devastating impact on the economy, especially in the real estate market. Even with LOWER mortgage rates, commercial real estate is already collapsing. With HIGHER mortgage rates, any hope for stabilization will be dashed.
Thousands of insurance companies and banks will suffer a new round of losses that could make the subprime mess seem small by comparison.
The Dow will plunge to our target of 5,000; the S&P, to 500.
A Unique Convergence of Events
If all of these events can tell you anything, it’s that you now have the kind of opportunity that generations of investors could only dream about.

You have the ability to read the handwriting on the wall; to know in advance what is most likely to happen next.

Treasuries bond prices are already sinking. Interest rates are rising. The dollar is falling. Unemployment is surging. Commercial real estate is collapsing. General Motors is going bankrupt.

This is the recipe for disaster I’ve been warning you about.

But it’s also a prescription for some of the greatest profits of all time, using contrarian investments designed to profit from the decline.

Good luck and God bless!

Martin"
I wish you a great trading week either stocks, options, forex...
2win
 
I hope you fellows that you had a great Memorial day.
A new week is starting and I found an article that summarize what I am thinking at this moment about the current stock market. As a great anesthesia dude I am a great "investor"...
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3243528
by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D.

"This would normally be my time for a quiet Memorial Day at home.

But even as we seek calm, investors overseas are doing precisely the opposite.

They're dumping U.S. assets.

They're driving those assets down in price.

And they're threatening to sink our entire economy into a THIRD phase of this crisis.

Remember: The first phase was the debt disaster. The second phase was the collapse in the economy. Now, in the third phase, Treasury bonds and the U.S. dollar are getting hit hard, largely due to foreign selling.

The latest drama began this past Thursday …

The supply of U.S. Treasury bonds dumped on the market was so overwhelming, even the Federal Reserve, with all its massive efforts to buy up bonds, could not stop the avalanche.


By the time most traders left for the weekend Friday afternoon, ALL of the gains in bond prices the Fed had been able to engineer in recent weeks were wiped out — vanquished by market forces beyond the Fed's control.

Why The U.S. Government Is the Next Victim of the Market's Revenge!
Look. In each successive phase of this debt crisis, investors have consistently attacked and destroyed the market value of institutions that owned large amounts of toxic assets — Countrywide Financial, Fannie Mae, Citigroup, Bank of America and many others.

The shares of these companies were pummeled; their ability to raise new capital, virtually extinguished.

Now it's the U.S. government that's the next victim of the market's revenge.

Why?

Because the government never was — and never will be — immune to market selling. Like private corporations, it borrows. Like any borrower, it has creditors. And like all creditors, it's ultimately up to THEM — not up to the borrower — to decide what to do with their money.

But unlike most borrowers, the U.S. government has arrogantly thumbed its nose at its creditors. Without remorse.

"We can do anything we damn please," was the message from Uncle Sam.

"We can spend our money wantonly. We can bail out our giant corporations to our heart's content. We can even debase our currency.

"But YOU, our creditors, are stuck with us. No matter what we do, you've got to keep loaning us more money, endlessly."

Our creditors swallowed hard and tolerated this message for a while. But not now.

Now they're fed up. They can't take it anymore.

Now, explicitly or implicitly, the U.S. government has assumed the liability for TRILLIONS of dollars of bad mortgages, sour commercial paper, and sick consumer credit.

Now, directly or indirectly, the U.S. government has placed its own credit and credibility in grave jeopardy.

And now, our creditors are raving mad, dumping U.S. bonds and the U.S. dollar.

The Immediate Consequences …

Treasury bond prices aren't the only U.S. assets plunging. The U.S. dollar is also plunging against major world currencies. It has just fallen below 6-month lows. It's almost certainly going to fall further.
Gold has surged dramatically, coming within striking distance of the $1,000 level — and beyond.
Meanwhile, new, unexpected supplies of bonds are being tossed on the market on TOP of the massive supplies the Treasury must issue to finance its mammoth $1.84 trillion budget deficit estimated by the Obama administration for fiscal 2009.
Long-term interest rates are getting ready to soar far further. And as rates rise, consumers and businesses will have to pay through the nose to borrow. Or they won't be able to borrow at any price.
You can expect a sweeping, devastating impact on the economy, especially in the real estate market. Even with LOWER mortgage rates, commercial real estate is already collapsing. With HIGHER mortgage rates, any hope for stabilization will be dashed.
Thousands of insurance companies and banks will suffer a new round of losses that could make the subprime mess seem small by comparison.
The Dow will plunge to our target of 5,000; the S&P, to 500.
A Unique Convergence of Events
If all of these events can tell you anything, it's that you now have the kind of opportunity that generations of investors could only dream about.

You have the ability to read the handwriting on the wall; to know in advance what is most likely to happen next.

Treasuries bond prices are already sinking. Interest rates are rising. The dollar is falling. Unemployment is surging. Commercial real estate is collapsing. General Motors is going bankrupt.

This is the recipe for disaster I've been warning you about.

But it's also a prescription for some of the greatest profits of all time, using contrarian investments designed to profit from the decline.

Good luck and God bless!

Martin"
I wish you a great trading week either stocks, options, forex...
2win

I've been following this for a long time now. We'll see how it all plays out, but US debt is going to get more expensive (i.e. higher interest rates). Just at a time when we're in a severe recession. The Fed has shot it's last wad when it lowered rates to almost zero last year.....

Now, we have Hillary going to China begging them to buy up more US debt (since we literally can not survive without it). The next week our trade representatives go there and expect parity in trade?? I don't think so....

Smart analysts will say that the US will simply NOT ever default. I probably agree with this. But, what the "Fed" will do is simply print more dollars and likely be forced to "buy" up unwanted debt that doesn't get bought up in the auctions market at desireable interest rates (i.e. they'll try to keep them down).

****This means inflation WILL be coming. How soon? Who knows. But, the dollar will be losing a lot of purchasing power over the next 10 years.
There are ways to protect against this, sure.

The only thing is that one can never predict the next Black Swan. So, we'll see. But, investors need to keep future US debt, massive increases in US dollar supply with diminishing demand, and what this will mean in the coming years. Be very nimble and pay attention to this stuff.

I honestly hope that the next "Black Swan" is not some BS war........

Good post, 2win.👍
 
Last edited:
I will be ready to buy stocks as soon the S&P dips in the 750 or below range. This will happen again. We will not have a V shaped recovery. I will be more like a W shaped recovery where the second dip will be just as worse if not more.

Happy hunting. The sale sign on stocks will be put up again once everyone figures out that the stimulus bill does nothing for the economy.

The current rise in the market is a mythic rise which will be followed by an "epic" fall. 900s on the S&P --> are you kidding me. In this economy, it should be more like 700. This is a bear market. Most people know it, but continue invest like fools driven to slaughter.

Our economy is not better. Infact, its gotten worse. The banks may have been somewhat stabilized but other forces will drive down the economy. #1 reason for depression --> the average consumer doesn't have any money.
 
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad
I will be ready to buy stocks as soon the S&P dips in the 750 or below range. This will happen again. We will not have a V shaped recovery. I will be more like a W shaped recovery where the second dip will be just as worse if not more.

Happy hunting. The sale sign on stocks will be put up again once everyone figures out that the stimulus bill does nothing for the economy.

The current rise in the market is a mythic rise which will be followed by an "epic" fall. 900s on the S&P --> are you kidding me. In this economy, it should be more like 700. This is a bear market. Most people know it, but continue invest like fools driven to slaughter.

Our economy is not better. Infact, its gotten worse. The banks may have been somewhat stabilized but other forces will drive down the economy. #1 reason for depression --> the average consumer doesn't have any money.

It was one of the previous century's big bankers (J. P. Morgan, or perhaps Rockefeller ?) who said the time to buy stocks is when there's blood running in the streets.
 
Another bright side, Obama is far surpassing all previous presidents combined by lowering the real cost of my student loans by enacting policies that will cause inflation to skyrocket. If the government won't pay for my medical education, at least they are willing to lower the real cost by destroying the economy. Thanks, Mr. President.
 
It was one of the previous century's big bankers (J. P. Morgan, or perhaps Rockefeller ?) who said the time to buy stocks is when there's blood running in the streets.

The market is still bullish - there are not fundamentals. Is aiming at 9000 DOW. Be cautious with your money.
 
Another bright side, Obama is far surpassing all previous presidents combined by lowering the real cost of my student loans by enacting policies that will cause inflation to skyrocket. If the government won't pay for my medical education, at least they are willing to lower the real cost by destroying the economy. Thanks, Mr. President.

sadly, this is one "benefit" of inflation.........