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We're all overpaid tube monkeys in the eyes of everyone but other anesthesiologists so who the hell cares?
 
Every time I heard crnas use the word MdA.

I reply you need to also use MDS, MDG, MDP, MDPM

They get a confused look at me.
 
"The elephant man". those old locker room nicknames can still sting!

Also acceptable: tripod
 
Yeah the military is a major culprit. I'm just a "provider". I go to "provider" meetings. I want to break something every single time my name is used in the same breath as a NP or a PA, not that they aren't frequently great at their scope of practice... I'm sorry, perhaps that's callous but I went to MEDICAL SCHOOL. IT WAS HARD and was a tremendous and unrelenting investment (mostly of my soul), and it deserves a separate stratification in the medical world.
 
In the wonderful world of Epic, at my wonderful acacademic hospital, I am not a "physician"; I am an "anesthesiologist". Same goes for residents of any specialty. If one filters notes by physician-only, one won't see either my note or a resident's.

Pure nursing genius! Now we are their equal.

The only way to stop this charade is to bring out a national law that forbids non-physicians to use the title of Doctor in a healthcare environment. As they have in ANY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY.
 
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FFP said:
In the wonderful world of Epic, at my wonderful acacademic hospital, I am not a "physician"; I am an "anesthesiologist". Same goes for residents of any specialty. If one filters notes by physician-only, one won't see either my note or a resident's.

Pure nursing genius! Now we are their equal.

The only way to stop this charade is to bring out a national law that forbids non-physicians to use the title of Doctor in a healthcare environment. As they do in ANY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY.
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Have you called and asked them to correct their error?
 
In my department, the more waves you make, the more they will come back to crush you. Why? Because a lot of lazy middle management people are pissed when you bring up stuff they need to fix.
 
FFP said:
In the wonderful world of Epic, at my wonderful acacademic hospital, I am not a "physician"; I am an "anesthesiologist". Same goes for residents of any specialty. If one filters notes by physician-only, one won't see either my note or a resident's.

Pure nursing genius! Now we are their equal.

The only way to stop this charade is to bring out a national law that forbids non-physicians to use the title of Doctor in a healthcare environment. As they do in ANY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY.
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You are really caught up in the government making laws, really a federal law to protect a title?
 
Correct!
In Epic there is a provider called PHYSICIAN and another provider called ANESTHESIOLOGIST and they don't have the same access level 🙂
FFP said:
In the wonderful world of Epic, at my wonderful acacademic hospital, I am not a "physician"; I am an "anesthesiologist". Same goes for residents of any specialty. If one filters notes by physician-only, one won't see either my note or a resident's.

Pure nursing genius! Now we are their equal.

The only way to stop this charade is to bring out a national law that forbids non-physicians to use the title of Doctor in a healthcare environment. As they do in ANY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY.
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007livesforever said:
You are really caught up in the government making laws, really a federal law to protect a title?
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In this context, yes. The public is not educated enough to make the difference. For them, doctor = medical school = physician. They have no idea about the differences between titles; heck, most don't know what "attending physician" means.

There should be a law or a about all these healthcare titles, to clear up all these muddy waters. We are using titles very liberally in this country. Doctor of nursing != physician. All people know is that "doctor" means medical school, so they assume that anybody using the title Doctor is an MD/DO or equivalent. 4 (6 in my case) years of medical school cannot be compared to 4-6 even 10 of nursing. It's like comparing Major League Baseball with Minor League.

My wonderful acacademic hospital's walls are full of posters advertising a conference by whatever chief of bull**** APRN, PhD in nursing, from another hospital, presenting her as Dr. X. You actually have to read through the stuff to figure out she's a nurse. It's just disgusting what's going on, and nurses won't stop until we have a law in place to prevent these abusive behaviors.

It's completely naive to believe that we can change these behaviors through hospital policies, one hospital at a time, when most hospitals are run by nurses in an overwhelming percentage. It's like pleading for capitalism in the Workers' Party.

I have no problems in allowing other types of independent healthcare providers in the market, and having to compete with them. I just can't stand deceptive advertising. If you are a ****ing chiropractor, don't call yourself Doctor. If you have a PhD (especially one that anybody could get in 1-2 years of part-time study), don't call yourself Doctor in a healthcare setting. Once again, **** AMA, because this is their job (not just sending me crappy invoices every month).

P.S. The experienced but stupid PACU PCT seemed not to know today that I was a physician. When my patient's relative asked which of us is a nurse and which is a doctor, she explained that she was a PCT and I was an anesthesiologist (hence not a doctor in her eyes).
 
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It's one of those places that look great on your CV, but you don't want to ever work there (again).
 
I mentioned this before... but would it be simpler to use different colored trim on your white coats (around the collar/shoulders) based on qualifications?

Red - attending MD/DO
Orange - Resident MD/DO
Yellow - Med student
Green - Nurse

etc.

It would simplify things, certainly. But, I also think nurses would be against it because they would no longer be able to impersonate doctors....
 
My facility puts "RN" on the nurses badges in big bold letters.

Ours say "physician" in smaller letters. Probably because it's a lot more letters.
 
Hospital attire should be short sleeves, no coats, no ties, no wrist or hand adornments. Patient comfort with standard attire may be in line with the white coat business casual presentation, but if it changed system-wide it wouldn't matter for long, new norms would be adopted. Tangent.

Anyway - is provider a new word? I've grown up with it and never associated any negativity to it. I've always viewed it as a way of saying "health care professionals" in a single word. Only in the past couple months have I noticed the animosity for it
 
Cytarabine said:
Anyway - is provider a new word? I've grown up with it and never associated any negativity to it. I've always viewed it as a way of saying "health care professionals" in a single word. Only in the past couple months have I noticed the animosity for it
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It's a synechdoche from "National Provider Identifier". You know that stupid number that we were all issued about 9-10 years ago. It's mostly a government/legal term. It's belies the stupidity of what healthcare management has become. And it's lazy.
 
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