PhD/PsyD Ideal number of pubs when applying for internship

[MiniLop]

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Hi all, third year PhD student here. I'm looking to make sure I have all of my bases covered (or as many as possible) by the time I apply to internship in fifth year. My mentor suggested that 5 (!) is the ideal number of pubs to have when applying to internship, and that this might be the difference between matching at my first choice or way farther down the list. Anyone have any thoughts on this? And for those of you who matched in the past, how many pubs did you have at the time?

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

It depends…do you want Brown, MUSC, or similar research heavy place….or someone else? Generally the research heavy sites will be very competitive in regard to pubs and 5 is probably on the low end, depending on type of pub, impact factor, 1st/2nd authors v. 3/4/5, etc. If you want an AMC or academically affiliated VA…having a handful of publications will look great.

 

[MiniLop]

I likely will not be looking at research-heavy sites, Also, at this point I haven't started creating a list of specific sites, so I'm thinking more generally.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

In my experience, if you have 5, you'll at least be competitive at most sites. Even if you "only" have 1 or 2 (particularly if first author) along with a handful of posters, you'll likely get a serious look. Assuming the rest of your application is also up to speed.

 

[forcefive17]

Hi all, third year PhD student here. I'm looking to make sure I have all of my bases covered (or as many as possible) by the time I apply to internship in fifth year. My mentor suggested that 5 (!) is the ideal number of pubs to have when applying to internship, and that this might be the difference between matching at my first choice or way farther down the list. Anyone have any thoughts on this? And for those of you who matched in the past, how many pubs did you have at the time?

It might be beneficial to check out last year's match statistics. Part 2 and Part 3 of 2015's Survey Results address % of applicants who matched related to # of pubs. These stats have been infinitely helpful to me while completing applications for internship this year.

Linked below:
http://www.appic.org/Match/MatchStatistics/ApplicantSurvey2015Part2.aspx
http://www.appic.org/Match/MatchStatistics/ApplicantSurvey2015Part3.aspx

 

[EmotRegulation]

Yep, the modal number of publications across all applicants is....0.

 

[deleted809894]

Pretty sure you are reading that data wrong; the modal number of pubs among PsyD students is 0, but for PhD students in is 3 or more.

 

[WisNeuro]

Pretty sure you are reading that data wrong; the modal number of pubs among PsyD students is 0, but for PhD students in is 3 or more.

Nope, they said the modal number of pubs across all applicants is 0, which is correct. If you subgroup them, it's a different story. But, what he said was correct, you just mis-read the quote.

 

[EmotRegulation]

For the record, I identify as a "she" which doesn't matter for the purposes of this board, but still proud to be a female academic.

It is also useful to point out that "publication" does not mean first author. So yes, about 40% of internship applicants from PhD programs have 3 or more peer-reviewed publications, but that includes co-authored stuff.

 

[WisNeuro]

Oops, sorry about that. My apologies. It's been a hectic day, I wasn't paying much attention to who was posting at the time.

 

[futureapppsy2]

There's actually a recent TEPP publication that really breaks this down nicely.

Lund, E. M., Bouchard, L. M., & Thomas, K. B. (2016). Publication productivity of professional psychology internship applicants: An in-depth analysis of APPIC survey data. Training and Education in Professional Psychology, 10(1), 54-61.

 

[glowstick]

There's actually a recent TEPP publication that really breaks this down nicely.

Lund, E. M., Bouchard, L. M., & Thomas, K. B. (2016). Publication productivity of professional psychology internship applicants: An in-depth analysis of APPIC survey data. Training and Education in Professional Psychology, 10(1), 54-61.

Which was summarized nicely in a thread that @futureapppsy2 posted: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...ion-productivity-and-the-appic-match.1180381/

 

[MiniLop]

Thanks everyone! The article/thread was super helpful. I think the take-away is be a well-rounded applicant and not fixate on reaching some magic number of pubs.