If you fail a class possible to match well or to the ROAD specialties?

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If you fail a class is it still possible to match well or to the ROAD specialties?

Impossible/infinitely unlikely?

I'm thinking about EM or Anes. I may fail my first Pharm exam monday because I didn't realize how voluminous all of it is until it was too late. I have otherwise been doing fine.
 
Semi-troll/sarcastic response


Yes this ONE exam you fail is going to make or break your chances at your specialty of choice-so that 270 step 1 score you were hoping for is futile-you might as well just drop out now while you still can
 
Unfortunately, failing your Pharm exam may be a strong indicator that you as a person may not be qualified enough to do well in your other classes, and your boards.

Pharm is everything because it summarize all the material you have learned

This is the equivalent of a pre-med saying "I got straight As for four years but I got one C+ in a class. Will medical schools still consider me?!"
 
carml said:
No.
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calling BS on this one. if your goals are EM or gas, then yes you can still match with a preclinical failure. if you wanted Derm or Plastics then it might be a different story. but you're not going to fail this course. you might fail this exam, but not the course.... you said it was the first exam, so i'm assuming that if you fail you can still recover?

most med students fail an exam at some point. very few end up with a failure on their transcript.
 
tiedyeddog said:
What?! So if you remediate, the first exam fail never shows up??
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er, no... i was going on the assumption that most med schools are like mine and have multiple exams in a course. if a course has three exams then failing the first exam != failing the course and having that on the transcript. or does everyone have just finals??

we don't have to remediate exam failures, we only have to remediate a course if we fail the whole thing, and that's also the point at which it shows up on your record. the dean never even sees whether or not we failed an individual exam, it doesn't go any higher than the level of the pre-clinical curriculum director.
 
gravitywave said:
er, no... i was going on the assumption that most med schools are like mine and have multiple exams in a course. if a course has three exams then failing the first exam != failing the course and having that on the transcript. or does everyone have just finals??
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I'm not sure about the answer to this thread but it just took me waaaay too long to figure out what the highlighted part meant...
 
gravitywave said:
calling BS on this one. if your goals are EM or gas, then yes you can still match with a preclinical failure. if you wanted Derm or Plastics then it might be a different story. but you're not going to fail this course. you might fail this exam, but not the course.... you said it was the first exam, so i'm assuming that if you fail you can still recover?

most med students fail an exam at some point. very few end up with a failure on their transcript.
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My school has one exam per course 🙁. Yes we can remediate. My concern is that technically the admins will still know I failed (ie it will show up SOMEWHERE perhaps a deans letter or in the transcript etc)

If I were to remediate could I still match road, derm/plastics (not that I want to i'm just curious because I like having options). If not I guess that's fine, EM and Anes are a better fit anyways and from what I gather I might still have a chance at Anes even with a failure/remediation on my transcript
 
At my school, if you fail a test you basically have to retake the test. It will not show up on a final transcript, the only thing the transcript will say is pass or fail. So maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not sure it can hurt you when applying for residencies.
 
Also, if OP is using "ROAD" as a synonym for "competitive," they might want to update it to:

Rad Onc
Ortho
And
Derm

Or maybe put a silent P in there for combined Plastics.

Anesthesia is not as competitive as the hype would have one believe.
 
PMPMD said:
Also, if OP is using "ROAD" as a synonym for "competitive," they might want to update it to:

Rad Onc
Ortho
And
Derm

Or maybe put a silent P in there for combined Plastics.

Anesthesia is not as competitive as the hype would have one believe.
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The ROAD is not about pure competitiveness. It's about combination of historically high compensation and perceived good lifestyle. Only Derm out of the 4 ROAD specialties (Rads, Optho, Anes) is super competitive. Plastics, ENT, and Ortho are more competitive than the non-Derm ROAD specialties
 
2012mdc said:
The ROAD is not about pure competitiveness. It's about combination of historically high compensation and perceived good lifestyle. Only Derm out of the 4 ROAD specialties (Rads, Optho, Anes) is super competitive. Plastics, ENT, and Ortho are more competitive than the non-Derm ROAD specialties
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Yes, correct as stated.
 
You guys have it easy if your school lets you retake tests that you failed.
 
What the f*ck are you doing online? Go study, OP

You haven't even taken the test yet and you're wasting time posting this nonsense? Stop spazzing out and get down to business.
 
2012mdc said:
The ROAD is not about pure competitiveness. It's about combination of historically high compensation and perceived good lifestyle. Only Derm out of the 4 ROAD specialties (Rads, Optho, Anes) is super competitive. Plastics, ENT, and Ortho are more competitive than the non-Derm ROAD specialties
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Make way for the DOPE specialties
 
Failing pharmacology and a career in anesthesia are not exactly compatible. It's not the end of the line for you, but it would be a giant red flag in an anesthesia application. Don't fail.
Also, not recognizing the volume of material covered in pharmacology until the week before the exam is a pretty bad sign. Or you're a troll?
 
IlDestriero said:
Failing pharmacology and a career in anesthesia are not exactly compatible. It's not the end of the line for you, but it would be a giant red flag in an anesthesia application. Don't fail.
Also, not recognizing the volume of material covered in pharmacology until the week before the exam is a pretty bad sign. Or you're a troll?
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While I am no genius I work very hard. I have scored in the top 10/top15 scores on every other exam. I became overconfident. It was my mistake. Pride goeth and now I will fall. I don't think this is an issue of aptitude. But who knows maybe you're right.
 
LoveandHate said:
Lol 1.5 SD's above the mean 😀
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Congrats

Yoda_troll_side.jpg
 
TAWS said:
What made the histology test so hard? I always thought of histology as a grade booster.
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No one understood how to study for it. It was the first six chapters of the histology book, dense text, and lots of pictures.... the people who failed were the ones who tried to focus on the text and the pictures... I didn't do so well either.. next test I took great notes in class, focused on the pictures, and was a few points shy of an A.
 
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