If you have a profile on mdapplicants.com....

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I feel like I have some things in my profile (MCAT, Science/Post-bacc GPA, "other" experience) that are good enough to get in anywhere.

I also feel that I have some things (overall GPA, almost no research) that could warrant a "screened-out" or pre-interview rejection straight away at pretty much any school.

We'll see how it goes! 😳

Here I am.
 
When the OP asked for the mdapplicants profile and people provided it, they are being helpful, not arrogant. People are not introducing themselves by stating their GPA and MCAT, they are providing the information requested by the OP. So do you guys (Angus and Psycho) have a problem with the way mdapps profiles are set up? Medical school admission is greatly dependent on one's GPA and MCAT (among others ofcourse) and therefore these stats are provided in an mdapplicants profile. Do you really think that mdapps profiles would be more useful if someone just talked about themselves with no reference to their stats and the activities that have helped them get into medical school? I don't understand how people can get offended by this thread. I think it is greatly useful. Keep it going and ignore the naysayers.

Btw, Psycho, I hope you are feeling better 🙂
 
I do the MDapplicants thingy not because my stats are stellar, but because I have some method that I can keep track of my expenses, secondaries, invites, and rejections/acceptances.
 
Dr.Giggles said:
I do the MDapplicants thingy not because my stats are stellar, but because I have some method that I can keep track of my expenses, secondaries, invites, and rejections/acceptances.
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Yeah, me too, I love it. It just helps keeps things organized for me.
 
Monette said:
When the OP asked for the mdapplicants profile and people provided it, they are being helpful, not arrogant. People are not introducing themselves by stating their GPA and MCAT, they are providing the information requested by the OP. So do you guys (Angus and Psycho) have a problem with the way mdapps profiles are set up? Medical school admission is greatly dependent on one's GPA and MCAT (among others ofcourse) and therefore these stats are provided in an mdapplicants profile. Do you really think that mdapps profiles would be more useful if someone just talked about themselves with no reference to their stats and the activities that have helped them get into medical school? I don't understand how people can get offended by this thread. I think it is greatly useful. Keep it going and ignore the naysayers.

Btw, Psycho, I hope you are feeling better 🙂
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mdapps is a poor litmus test of your chances for acceptance. They don't reflect the statistics that med schools release on their websites or in the MSAR. There's no way to check their veracity. Only a small minority of people who get accepted actually put up a profile. I dont understand how they could help you in any other way except to pat yourself on the back and show everyone how well you did.

Do you people actually think you can gauge your chances by this website? Are you delusional? Until adcoms start to release sample successful AMCAS and secondary applications there's no way to determine your chances.

I really hope Psycho and myself aren't the only ones on SDN that thinks that posting your stats is ridiculous. If you really are interested in helping people, why stop at GPA/MCAT? Why not post links to your resumes and CV's? Why not post pdf's of your entire AMCAS application? Then we could at least know that what you're putting up is true.
 
TheMightyAngus said:
mdapps is a poor litmus test of your chances for acceptance. They don't reflect the statistics that med schools release on their websites or in the MSAR. There's no way to check their veracity. Only a small minority of people who get accepted actually put up a profile. I dont understand how they could help you in any other way except to pat yourself on the back and show everyone how well you did.


Do you people actually think you can gauge your chances by this website? Are you delusional? Until adcoms start to release sample successful AMCAS and secondary applications there's no way to determine your chances.


I really hope Psycho and myself aren't the only ones on SDN that thinks that posting your stats is ridiculous. If you really are interested in helping people, why stop at GPA/MCAT? Why not post links to your resumes and CV's? Why not post pdf's of your entire AMCAS application? Then we could at least know that what you're putting up is true.
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No one said that they reflect the statistics that medical schools release. We realize that statistically, they are a very skewed sample of a large population. With regards to their being no way to check their veracity, the precise intent of this thread was to circumvent this particular problem by asking fellow SDNers to post their files since their authenticity becomes much less questionable (as Gugudoc mentioned). I am much more likely to believe an mdapps profile linked to an SDNer's sig than one that I find after some search on that website. The people who make these files find them helpful because it helps them to stay organized, much less than to give themselves a pat on the back. If you're saying that someone who posts a high MCAT is being arrogant, what can be said of someone who said they got into Harvard? Where do you draw the line? As to those who view the mdapps profiles, they're not by any means using them as the ultimate guide for entrance into medical school. It does give some idea of where people with similar stats and/or activities were able to secure interview invites, etc. Since the process is so random as it is, I don't see that these profiles are as misleading as you claim them to be.

The same can be said about SDN - it is not a very realistic representation of the pre-med population but it still is helpful. Same with mdapps, I'd rather have something to look at than nothing.

I understand that it's not all about the GPA and MCAT, but obviously people will be much more cautious in posting personal information contained in a personal statement. I don't think that necessarily makes them less helpful. And I still don't think that someone who posts their mdapps profile after specifically being asked by the OP to do so is being arrogant. Labmonster actually proves you wrong. It's not our fault that people with less stellar stats are not as willing to post them as say someone who scored in the 98th percentile. And even if it is completely useless in terms of its applicability in determining or helping gauge one's chances of gaining admission into medical school, I think it serves as a way to satisfy one's curiosity. I think everyone is interested in reading others' profiles and you would not have posted on this thread had you not been enticed to read some of the posted mdapps profiles (despite your vocal profession of hating them). If it bothers you THAT much, you don't have to read the files, but you also should not say it is so useless that the thread should be done with when others find it useful (even if marginally so). There is nothing in it that should offend anyone! Fair enough?

Cheers,
Monette
 
TheMightyAngus said:
It amazes me sometimes how willing people are to brag about their grades/scores. What douchebag walks around with their report card taped to their chest or their MCAT score branded on their arm? Normal people don't introduce themselves, "Hi my name is Vicky Sentence, I'm from Ithaca and I have a 3.9/37R." So why is it so prevalent here? Maybe i'm the odd one out who extolls modest and anonymity as virtues.
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Uhh, you're gonna love this: this girl at my school took her (excellent) MCAT score report, taped it to the wall of her room and then highlighted the score.
 
drinklord said:
Uhh, you're gonna love this: this girl at my school took her (excellent) MCAT score report, taped it to the wall of her room and then highlighted the score.
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Not that I would ever do that, but at least she didn't post it on the door of her room!! I've known TAs that have photocopied some students' lab reports, highlighted any errors (especially those that are particularly stupid), and posted them on the wall in their office (where those students may pop in to ask a few questions). I would much rather have someone flourish/thrive on their own success than on others' failures. Perhaps she was just using it for motivation purposes.
 
TheMightyAngus said:
I really hope Psycho and myself aren't the only ones on SDN that thinks that posting your stats is ridiculous.
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I really hope, in fact I know, that I'm not the only one on SDN who doesn't give a flying donkey crap what you think is ridiculous. 😀

You think it is arrogant. Fine. I don't. I happen to view many of my fellow SDNers as friends and many others I, at minimum, feel fondness for and wish them well during the application process. What better way to easily check in on how people here are doing than using mdapplicants?

Simply because your narrow mind can only view it as a statistically skewed, potentially inaccurate, and therefore useless tool for gauging someone's chances at gaining acceptance doesn't mean that other people don't have a variety of differing and entirely valid reasons for using the site.

You think posting there is arrogant. I think it is far more arrogant for someone to jump into a thread like this to tell a very large number of other people how wrong they are for using mdapplicants. If there is anyone who needs an arrogance adjustment, it might just be our beefy friend the TheMightyAngus! 😛

.... and yes, I do know that your name refers to the musician, not the cow! :horns:
 
Lol. I can't speak for the rest of the people who post on here, but you can be certain I'm not arrogant about my mdapp or my stats. I know there are many people out there (and especially on SDN) with a greater intelligence, capacity to succeed, and higher stats but that doesn't really matter to me. I echo the previous statements and maintain it is immensely helpful to see what stats are successful and what schools one should realistically consider good, appropriate schools for his/her stats. To be blunt, I know I'm not going to an ivy and it's unlikely I'll get into a top-tier private school but that doesn't mean I can't shoot for the moon anyways with middle-tier private schools and hope for the best.

If money, time, and a few rejections are all I have to fear, then why not apply? Doesn't sound like too big of a gamble to me... 🙂
 
I said this before, and I'll repeat it again.........

This stupid notion that all people who post their mdapps in their profile, must be arrogant, is quite stupid as it gets.

Are people really sooooooooooooooo insecure that they get in a tizzy fit over every person that puts their profile up??? If a person has the link for their profile in their sig, a person does not necessarily have to click on it. If you click on it, you are by virtue proving my point that you are even slightly curious. So if you are not curious, then why click on it??? It seems to go against the point.

But stop telling others what they can and cannot do, because some insecure people out there.

I am pretty sure people have common sense to realize that they can look at averages in the MSAR and figure not every single applicant has a 34+ MCAT and 4.0.

I'm also pretty sure anyone who has any sort of common sense can realize that there are tons of premeds that don't post on here.

So in essence, it is not their sole resource to figuring what is needed to be sucessful. However, there are people who are genuinely curious how people that they have gotten to know are doing.

Sure we'd love it if some of the people I know, with 26's and 27's on their MCAT, posted profiles on here. But the fact of the matter is they don't post on here, they only lurked or didn't even look at this site. And others somehow feel insecure even if they have been accepted with slightly lower scores then the others on here. That is not our problem, but we should not be so freaking sensitive that everyone with a 3.8 and 34+ should be afraid of posting their links or using the mdapps profile.

And again, I'll say it one more time, the people who post their links allow us to distinguish between who's are real and who's are fake profiles on their.

This brings me to my last post, you all get so worked up over people for posting their profile, and when people with good stats get neurotic over whether or not they will get in.........

But you all fail to realize that stellar stats don't guarantee anything, they just help to keep you in the running. Even people with awesome MCAT scores and GPAs get rejected, waitlisted, etc. No one has a perfect application, because adcoms will find some way to scrutinize even the tiniest speck on an application, and determine whether they want you. So stop acting like only those with lesser stats will be rejected.

If these people have these stats, its because they earned their way there. Personally, ever since I retook the MCAT, I have come to know many of these posters pretty well and would love to see how they do in the process because they have come to be good acquaintances and people I wouldn't mind having as a future colleague, some day.
 
Yah, so I'm one of the cool kids that got a 26 on the MCAT. I made a profile on mdapplicants. I don't care what other people think of my score, I know I can do better than that, and I know why I got that score. I didn't try to explain myself on my profile, I just stated it like it is. I think most ppl that do have these profiles do the same. Even if they have badass stats....I am not ashamed of a 26, and I sure as hell wouldn't be ashamed of a 36 or whatever. I would want people to know, because that would be something that I'm proud of. I know that I don't have to click the happy little link to someone's profile and read it if I don't want to. Sometimes, yes, I look at the profile, and I go "Good God, what the hell chance do I have against Mr./Ms. 4.0, 43 MCAT, 9 years worth of research in 3 years of actual undergrad...." but then I realize that either these people are just amazing people in general or they're taking really good drugs. So that helps me feel better! Anways, enough ranting from me.... 😀
 
SailCrazy said:
I really hope, in fact I know, that I'm not the only one on SDN who doesn't give a flying donkey crap what you think is ridiculous. 😀
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Yet you take the time to read and respond to my posts....
 
jodyleeann said:
Yah, so I'm one of the cool kids that got a 26 on the MCAT. I made a profile on mdapplicants. I don't care what other people think of my score, I know I can do better than that, and I know why I got that score. I didn't try to explain myself on my profile, I just stated it like it is. I think most ppl that do have these profiles do the same. Even if they have badass stats....I am not ashamed of a 26, and I sure as hell wouldn't be ashamed of a 36 or whatever. I would want people to know, because that would be something that I'm proud of. I know that I don't have to click the happy little link to someone's profile and read it if I don't want to. Sometimes, yes, I look at the profile, and I go "Good God, what the hell chance do I have against Mr./Ms. 4.0, 43 MCAT, 9 years worth of research in 3 years of actual undergrad...." but then I realize that either these people are just amazing people in general or they're taking really good drugs. So that helps me feel better! Anways, enough ranting from me.... 😀
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Totally off topic, but related to the poster I just quoted.........

Your avatar totally creeps me out, it looks like a guy is sucking his balls. 😱 😱

Just thought I'd throw that in there.
 
gujuDoc said:
Totally off topic, but related to the poster I just quoted.........

Your avatar totally creeps me out, it looks like a guy is sucking his balls. 😱 😱

Just thought I'd throw that in there.
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Yeah, that avatar needs to go...

I also wanted to ask something. When i posted a response to Angus, each paragraph was in response to the respective paragraph of his/her post. I was wondering how people are able to post their response within a person's quote and still having the quote and the response be distinguished.
 
gujuDoc said:
Totally off topic, but related to the poster I just quoted.........

Your avatar totally creeps me out, it looks like a guy is sucking his balls. 😱 😱

Just thought I'd throw that in there.
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Actually, that's Peter Griffin licking his nipple to check for milk. Does that make it any less creepy?
 
TheMightyAngus said:
SailCrazy said:
I really hope, in fact I know, that I'm not the only one on SDN who doesn't give a flying donkey crap what you think is ridiculous. 😀
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Yet you take the time to read and respond to my posts....
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And therein, my friend, lies the beauty of SDN! 👍 :laugh:


...and just because I'm not going to let your opinion effect my participation in mdapplicants, doesn't mean I won't take the time to point out the inherent arrogance of your argument against alleged arrogance! 😛
 
SailCrazy said:
I really hope, in fact I know, that I'm not the only one on SDN who doesn't give a flying donkey crap what you think is ridiculous. 😀

You think it is arrogant. Fine. I don't. I happen to view many of my fellow SDNers as friends and many others I, at minimum, feel fondness for and wish them well during the application process. What better way to easily check in on how people here are doing than using mdapplicants?

Simply because your narrow mind can only view it as a statistically skewed, potentially inaccurate, and therefore useless tool for gauging someone's chances at gaining acceptance doesn't mean that other people don't have a variety of differing and entirely valid reasons for using the site.

You think posting there is arrogant. I think it is far more arrogant for someone to jump into a thread like this to tell a very large number of other people how wrong they are for using mdapplicants. If there is anyone who needs an arrogance adjustment, it might just be our beefy friend the TheMightyAngus! 😛

.... and yes, I do know that your name refers to the musician, not the cow! :horns:
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whoa!! Just for the record I have nothing against mdapplicants and i see its usefulness. In fact, i do have a profile; I just don't advertise it. Some of my friends who have asked for info from it, I have given them the link rather than reiterating the progress. I see nothing wrong with sharing among friends. I only see it as arrogant when people with great stats seem to advertise it when it's not really necessary or overdone. No harm or offense intended from my post. peace.
 
RayhanS1282 said:
Actually, that's Peter Griffin licking his nipple to check for milk. Does that make it any less creepy?
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Ok. That's a bit better, though still perverted. However, it looks like the avatar is someone licking their balls. That's what creeped me out about it.

But actually, the clown avatars creep me out more because clowns are just scary.
 
BrettBatchelor said:
If someone blatantly asks you what your stats are, if you want you tell them whether they are good or bad. If you think it is arrogant if you tell your good score how do you view someone telling their bad score? Stupid?
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answering a question and advertising it on your forehead are two entirely different things 😛
 
Psycho Doctor said:
answering a question and advertising it on your forehead are two entirely different things 😛
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Very true. The point of the thread is answering a question.

BTW, did you hear the story about the woman who got a golden palace tattoo on her forehead to send her kid to private school. Anyone else think the kid and mom won't be accepted too quickly?
 
Psycho Doctor said:
whoa!! Just for the record I have nothing against mdapplicants and i see its usefulness. In fact, i do have a profile; I just don't advertise it. Some of my friends who have asked for info from it, I have given them the link rather than reiterating the progress. I see nothing wrong with sharing among friends. I only see it as arrogant when people with great stats seem to advertise it when it's not really necessary or overdone. No harm or offense intended from my post. peace.
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Hey Psycho - I didn't intend to aim my "back of because your post makes you out to be an arrogant hypocrite" cannon at you! Sorry if you took any offense.

I have primarily done the same as you with my profile. I sent the link to a few friends/family. I didn't really feel like throwing it in my sig, but didn't mind adding it to this thread.

I still do not understand how having a link to your mdapplicants page in your sig is construed as arrogant, or how posting your stats anonymously on the site in the first place is either.
 
Monette said:
When the OP asked for the mdapplicants profile and people provided it, they are being helpful, not arrogant. People are not introducing themselves by stating their GPA and MCAT, they are providing the information requested by the OP. So do you guys (Angus and Psycho) have a problem with the way mdapps profiles are set up? Medical school admission is greatly dependent on one's GPA and MCAT (among others ofcourse) and therefore these stats are provided in an mdapplicants profile. Do you really think that mdapps profiles would be more useful if someone just talked about themselves with no reference to their stats and the activities that have helped them get into medical school? I don't understand how people can get offended by this thread. I think it is greatly useful. Keep it going and ignore the naysayers.

Btw, Psycho, I hope you are feeling better 🙂
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thanks Monette, I'm feeling somewhat better, but the heat and humidity are killing me here. 👎
 
gujuDoc said:
Ok. That's a bit better, though still perverted. However, it looks like the avatar is someone licking their balls. That's what creeped me out about it.

But actually, the clown avatars creep me out more because clowns are just scary.
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If you watched Family Guy, you'd get the joke and trust me this is still not too bad compared to the stuff that followed it. 😀

The creepiest avatar I saw was one where there's this peephole through which you seen an eye and it's moving really really fast.
 
And to TheMightyAngus,

You are getting worked up over nothing. First of all, MDapplicants is somewhat of a useful tool for pre-meds to see what might be the stats for accepted/rejected/interviewed people for different school. I found out about SDN wayyyyy before MSAR or any of the other books...actually I found out about the existence of MSAR a few months ago. But the point is that it is helpful to newbies or ignorant oldies (myself included). Also, I don't think most people take the profiles as gospel. I know for a fact that at least one of them is a lie. But the point in having an MDapplicant profile on your signature is that I can click on it and find out how a certain poster scored and stuff like that. Having the signature profile allows me to send a PM to the person in case I want them to share with me the methods/materials of preparation etc. Or even if I have any questions that they will be kind enought to answer. I have done that a few times.

Also, a lot of people including myself use the MDapplicants as a way of keeping track of the secondaries, fees, mailing dates etc. So, if you look at it from this POV then you can clearly see that MDapplicants is more than a "bragging" tool.
 
RayhanS1282 said:
If you watched Family Guy, you'd get the joke and trust me this is still not too bad compared to the stuff that followed it. 😀

The creepiest avatar I saw was one where there's this peephole through which you seen an eye and it's moving really really fast.
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Oh ok. That makes more sense. I think some people were actually discussing that show on that thread that was created by some troll about getting into HMS or Hopkins.

but I still stand by my statement that clowns are scary as hell and creep the hell out of me after all these psycho movies and real life stories where clowns were used as diguises. After reading Megboo's post about JW GACY, I looked up who he was, and I'll say that stuff just scared me $hitless when I read it.

Oh and Mimes scare me too. i remember seeing some at Seaworld as a kid, and they just can be too creepy for words.

I'm sorry if I'm rambling, its just that everytime I see the clown avatars they give me the eeby jeebies.
 
gujuDoc said:
Oh ok. That makes more sense. I think some people were actually discussing that show on that thread that was created by some troll about getting into HMS or Hopkins.

but I still stand by my statement that clowns are scary as hell and creep the hell out of me after all these psycho movies and real life stories where clowns were used as diguises. After reading Megboo's post about JW GACY, I looked up who he was, and I'll say that stuff just scared me $hitless when I read it.

Oh and Mimes scare me too. i remember seeing some at Seaworld as a kid, and they just can be too creepy for words.

I'm sorry if I'm rambling, its just that everytime I see the clown avatars they give me the eeby jeebies.
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I TOTALLY agree with the clowns.....they really freak me out. Pretty much after reading and watching IT (Stephen King), I have so never been the same.
But on a different note, if ppl are seriously not happy with the av, I have no problemo changing it. I can't promise it will be tasteful, but I'll do my best! 😉
 
SailCrazy said:
I feel like I have some things in my profile (MCAT, Science/Post-bacc GPA, "other" experience) that are good enough to get in anywhere.

I also feel that I have some things (overall GPA, almost no research) that could warrant a "screened-out" or pre-interview rejection straight away at pretty much any school.

We'll see how it goes! 😳

Here I am.
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Dammit! We're the same person.
 
jodyleeann said:
I TOTALLY agree with the clowns.....they really freak me out. Pretty much after reading and watching IT (Stephen King), I have so never been the same.
But on a different note, if ppl are seriously not happy with the av, I have no problemo changing it. I can't promise it will be tasteful, but I'll do my best! 😉
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LO-fvcking-L at your avatar. i love it.
 
seems like i've joined SDN at it's nadir. 🙁

wonder if two years ago people would jump down your throat for posting your stats. oh well... this is how msg boards go.
 
radioh3ad said:
seems like i've joined SDN at it's nadir. 🙁

wonder if two years ago people would jump down your throat for posting your stats. oh well... this is how msg boards go.
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I know really!!!!!!!
 
it. said:
LO-fvcking-L at your avatar. i love it.
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Thank you very much, it. It's good to be noticed.....hahaha. 😉
 
Psycho Doctor said:
thanks Monette, I'm feeling somewhat better, but the heat and humidity are killing me here. 👎
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Glad to hear it Psycho. And yes the humidity sucks!! 👎 👎
 
jodyleeann said:
I TOTALLY agree with the clowns.....they really freak me out. Pretty much after reading and watching IT (Stephen King), I have so never been the same.
But on a different note, if ppl are seriously not happy with the av, I have no problemo changing it. I can't promise it will be tasteful, but I'll do my best! 😉
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If you are going to change it (which you shouldn't) can you get the one where Stewie is taking out a chest hair from his mouth after sucking on Peter's nipple?
 
Monette said:
Glad to hear it Psycho. And yes the humidity sucks!! 👎 👎
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Humidity is the pits!!!!!!!!!!! Hot weather is the pits!!!!!!!! These are the essences of why I hate summer, beyond the boring nature of summer, the lack of people around town in the summer, and other such factors.
 
lets see if the crappy link works...

edit: wow!!!!!! doing that made me realize im done with more than half my 2ndaries!! OOPS i forgot to list a few schools. that must be why 🙁
 
RayhanS1282 said:
And to TheMightyAngus,

You are getting worked up over nothing. First of all, MDapplicants is somewhat of a useful tool for pre-meds to see what might be the stats for accepted/rejected/interviewed people for different school. I found out about SDN wayyyyy before MSAR or any of the other books...actually I found out about the existence of MSAR a few months ago. But the point is that it is helpful to newbies or ignorant oldies (myself included). Also, I don't think most people take the profiles as gospel. I know for a fact that at least one of them is a lie. But the point in having an MDapplicant profile on your signature is that I can click on it and find out how a certain poster scored and stuff like that. Having the signature profile allows me to send a PM to the person in case I want them to share with me the methods/materials of preparation etc. Or even if I have any questions that they will be kind enought to answer. I have done that a few times.

Also, a lot of people including myself use the MDapplicants as a way of keeping track of the secondaries, fees, mailing dates etc. So, if you look at it from this POV then you can clearly see that MDapplicants is more than a "bragging" tool.
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i definitely used it to track where I was in the process at various schools
 
jodyleeann said:
Thank you very much, it. It's good to be noticed.....hahaha. 😉
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uh, what is being licked in that avatar???? 😕
 
Psycho Doctor said:
uh, what is being licked in that avatar???? 😕
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He's licking his man boob nipple. It's from an episode of the Family Guy. In that particular scene he is trying to see if milk will come out of his nipples if he sucks on them....
 
jodyleeann said:
He's licking his man boob nipple. It's from an episode of the Family Guy. In that particular scene he is trying to see if milk will come out of his nipples if he sucks on them....
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um, ok that's disgusting. and sorry i never saw Family Guy.
 
Psycho Doctor said:
um, ok that's disgusting. and sorry i never saw Family Guy.
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Agreed. I vote for changing that avatar.
 
NO WAY! jodyleann, DO NOT CHANGE your avatar! i LOVE it!!!
when i saw it, i couldnt stop laughing! of course, i am a HUGE fan of the family guy here.
 
ernieraisin said:
NO WAY! jodyleann, DO NOT CHANGE your avatar! i LOVE it!!!
when i saw it, i couldnt stop laughing! of course, i am a HUGE fan of the family guy here.
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K, the vote currently stands at 2-2, should i start a poll?
 
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