I'm a 3rd-year at University of Queensland. Here are pros/cons of the program:

[pcat24]

Hi,

thanks for this post. I have an urgent question, as I have to accept or reject my admission offer ASAP, and really appreciate your advice. First of all I am Canadian and 31, so i might be a bit too old for starting medicine. I studied psychology for undergrad at york, and then studied Pharm.D. at University of Waterloo, Canada. Pharmacy was insanely hard, and my marks in tough courses were in low to mid 50s (which was below the passing cut off at our school, which was 60%). I finally decided to quit! I wrote the MCAT and scored 8/8/8. I applied to Queensland medical school and got admitted. However, prior to getting admitted to medicine, I got admitted to Law in UK, and started that. Now I have the option of either finishing Law, which would finish in June 2016, and then I have to write challenge exams and bar exam in Canada, i expect it all to finish by April 2017, or I could finish by April 2017 in UK and work here. If I want to start medicine in Australia in Jan or Feb of 2016, then i cannot complete my law degree. If you were me would you got to Australia to study medicine, or you would just finish law and move on with your life? what is the passing cut off on each course at University of Queensland? I am afraid that I may not pass USMLEs, what are my chances of being able to stay in Australia and get a job there as a physician?

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[pcat24]

And one more question, considering that tuition fee in Queensland is $65k/year+cost of living, is it a logical career path when i am 31 years old to start? how much dose a family doctor make in Australia? what are my chances of getting to a specialty program? how much do specialists make?

 

[deleted158872]

Hi,

thanks for this post. I have an urgent question, as I have to accept or reject my admission offer ASAP, and really appreciate your advice. First of all I am Canadian and 31, so i might be a bit too old for starting medicine. I studied psychology for undergrad at york, and then studied Pharm.D. at University of Waterloo, Canada. Pharmacy was insanely hard, and my marks in tough courses were in low to mid 50s (which was below the passing cut off at our school, which was 60%). I finally decided to quit! I wrote the MCAT and scored 8/8/8. I applied to Queensland medical school and got admitted. However, prior to getting admitted to medicine, I got admitted to Law in UK, and started that. Now I have the option of either finishing Law, which would finish in June 2016, and then I have to write challenge exams and bar exam in Canada, i expect it all to finish by April 2017, or I could finish by April 2017 in UK and work here. If I want to start medicine in Australia in Jan or Feb of 2016, then i cannot complete my law degree. If you were me would you got to Australia to study medicine, or you would just finish law and move on with your life? what is the passing cut off on each course at University of Queensland? I am afraid that I may not pass USMLEs, what are my chances of being able to stay in Australia and get a job there as a physician?

wow, that is quite a personal decision that no one can answer for you. I see that you went from pharmacy -> law -> medicine. did you make informed decisions on each of those paths? how long did you study for the MCAT? my personal opinion is that if you found pharmacy "insanely hard," you will not be able to handle medicine bc medicine is going to be twice harder. whether medicine makes sense for you, you have to decide which career path you're truly PASSIONATE about and can put all your effort in and can see yourself doing it for the rest of your life!

do not think of being able to get an internship in Australia after you finish med school there. Australia is having an internship shortage, and as a non-citizen, you will be last on the list to be considered for a spot. And even if you get extremely lucky to get an internship, you'll have to practice in an underserved area for up to 10 years to be fully licensed in Australia. so do not ever bank on being able to stay in Australia!

 

[Theebrucedickinson]

wow, that is quite a personal decision that no one can answer for you. I see that you went from pharmacy -> law -> medicine. did you make informed decisions on each of those paths? how long did you study for the MCAT? my personal opinion is that if you found pharmacy "insanely hard," you will not be able to handle medicine bc medicine is going to be twice harder. whether medicine makes sense for you, you have to decide which career path you're truly PASSIONATE about and can put all your effort in and can see yourself doing it for the rest of your life!

do not think of being able to get an internship in Australia after you finish med school there. Australia is having an internship shortage, and as a non-citizen, you will be last on the list to be considered for a spot. And even if you get extremely lucky to get an internship, you'll have to practice in an underserved area for up to 10 years to be fully licensed in Australia. so do not ever bank on being able to stay in Australia!

PCAT24 - Seems questionable that you could be interested in pursuing law in the UK vs Medicine in Australia, two totally different career paths following what seems to be unrest in your past professional endevours; I recommend that you COMMIT to your next choice, or you will retire with a heap of debt before you have any family opportunities. Personally I cannot think of anything worse that law in the UK - how boring.

maruko - I think your approach is overly negative to studying in Australia - yes the 10 year moratorium exists, however this can be shortened to 3/4 years depending on what area you work, additionally working in these areas comes with financial lump sum incentives - I would argue is actually quite doable for 3/4 years if you are willing to make that sacrifice to be in Australia??? Additionally it looks like you can apply interstate for internships across Australia? So as an international student; you could feasibly bank on getting an internship in australia if you were organised?

 

[Transition]

maruko - I think your approach is overly negative to studying in Australia - yes the 10 year moratorium exists, however this can be shortened to 3/4 years depending on what area you work, additionally working in these areas comes with financial lump sum incentives - I would argue is actually quite doable for 3/4 years if you are willing to make that sacrifice to be in Australia??? Additionally it looks like you can apply interstate for internships across Australia? So as an international student; you could feasibly bank on getting an internship in australia if you were organised?

It's 5 years if you go ultra rural.
http://www.doctorconnect.gov.au/int...nsf/content/medicareProviderNumberLegislation

Your second part - do not bank on getting an internship in 4 years if you're international. Interstate or cmi. Plan to not stay.

Maruko - you know that the moratorium is only a restriction on provider numbers, right? As such, it's really just going to limit a gp from working in the city or a specialist from working private. It hardly affects you when you work as a junior and a reg. Unless you really want to train as a city GP. But that's a niche group and usually doesn't apply to internationals who tend to be flexible (plus the pay, hours and training tend to be way better rural or outer regional).

 

[Theebrucedickinson]

It's 5 years if you go ultra rural.
http://www.doctorconnect.gov.au/int...nsf/content/medicareProviderNumberLegislation

Your second part - do not bank on getting an internship in 4 years if you're international. Interstate or cmi. Plan to not stay.

Maruko - you know that the moratorium is only a restriction on provider numbers, right? As such, it's really just going to limit a gp from working in the city or a specialist from working private. It hardly affects you when you work as a junior and a reg. Unless you really want to train as a city GP. But that's a niche group and usually doesn't apply to internationals who tend to be flexible (plus the pay, hours and training tend to be way better rural or outer regional).

Thanks for your reply, why do you say 'plan not to stay'?

Is there a high rate of attrition for international medical students? If you do not mind what you do following the degree or where you do it in Aus? What is your EXP are you a current international student?

 

[Transition]

Don't plan to stay because you won't get a job most likely. The number of internships versus number of applicants is grossly unbalanced now (approx deficit of 400 spots). Plan to match back to your home country or go to Singapore or another country afterwards.

https://www.amsa.org.au/advocacy/internship-crisis/

Without the internship, you cannot get general registration in Australia and you won't be able to practice without that. Do NOT come to Australia expecting to train in Australia. Things may change and/or you may be one of the lucky ones getting a job, but it's up to you if you want to risk $300k in tuition and living costs on a degree that doesn't guarantee further advancement.

Do you due diligence and Google and research the **** out of this topic.

 

[uqmmm]

Hi pcat24,

My advice would be.... stay in law and then see how you can get qualified as a lawyer in Australia (not sure how hard that would be). Then, you may get a PR in Australia and study medicine at a much lower cost.

As for the age issue... from my experience with PBL in y1 and y2.... 10% of UQ mbbs is above age 30.

 

[Medstart108]

Honestly, finish the law degree and go with it. How much schooling do you seriously plan on doing and how much international tuition can you seriously afford all to take a chance at being a doctor on the lowest rung of the totem pole?

 

[pcat24]

hi all,

I recently got admitted to university of queensland medical school. i am very scared, and do not know if i should start studying medicine or decline this offer. my MCAT score was 24, yah pretty crap, but my undergraduate GPA in psychology was alright, and i did pretty well in pre-requisite biology and chemistry courses. However, I also studied doctor of pharmacy. I struggled with Doctor of pharmacy, failed biochemistry, pharmokinetic, pharmacodynamic, endocrinology and cardiology! yes, I know awesome! our passing cut of was 60%. I dropped out of pharmacy school and decided to pursue law. in all fairness, law is much easier and i know I will graduate from law if i complete my degree. i am in my second year of a two years accelerated law program. should i be insane enough to leave my law program and start medicine? do you guys think i can handle medicine or I will drop out? please respond asap as i need to accept my offer from queensland if i really want it. thanks

 

[pcat24]

Hi pcat24,

My advice would be.... stay in law and then see how you can get qualified as a lawyer in Australia (not sure how hard that would be). Then, you may get a PR in Australia and study medicine at a much lower cost.

As for the age issue... from my experience with PBL in y1 and y2.... 10% of UQ mbbs is above age 30.

I am actually Canadian, i could easily qualify in Canada, the other option is staying in UK, as I am getting job offers and interviews from multiple firms, or i could just open my own firm in canada and move on with my life, it is just because i always wanted medicine and now that i got it i do not know if i should let it go or not. on the other hand i can see myself starting medicine and flunking out, as i said i dropped out of pharmacy school, and my mcat score was only a 24. i failed pharmakinetic, pharmadynamic, endocrinology, cardiology, our pass cut of was 60% but exams were damn hard

 

[pcat24]

Hi pcat24,

My advice would be.... stay in law and then see how you can get qualified as a lawyer in Australia (not sure how hard that would be). Then, you may get a PR in Australia and study medicine at a much lower cost.

As for the age issue... from my experience with PBL in y1 and y2.... 10% of UQ mbbs is above age 30.

if i do not accept the offer this year, then i will need to redo the mcat, and mcat is getting harder, there is a high chance that i will never the admission again. i only went to law as i did not expect to get offer from medical school, but i got offer from law, it was not for the love of law, medicine was always my first choice but in all fairness it is not too boring, and it is definitely easier than medical fields, it is just not my burning desire, that is all

 

[pcat24]

PCAT24 - Seems questionable that you could be interested in pursuing law in the UK vs Medicine in Australia, two totally different career paths following what seems to be unrest in your past professional endevours; I recommend that you COMMIT to your next choice, or you will retire with a heap of debt before you have any family opportunities. Personally I cannot think of anything worse that law in the UK - how boring.

maruko - I think your approach is overly negative to studying in Australia - yes the 10 year moratorium exists, however this can be shortened to 3/4 years depending on what area you work, additionally working in these areas comes with financial lump sum incentives - I would argue is actually quite doable for 3/4 years if you are willing to make that sacrifice to be in Australia??? Additionally it looks like you can apply interstate for internships across Australia? So as an international student; you could feasibly bank on getting an internship in australia if you were organised?

hi, as i said I only went to law as i did not consider the possibility of getting admitted to medicine. medicine was always my number one choice. however, in all fairness law is much easier to study than medicine. but if i lose my offer from queensland then i may never get the offer again as my mcat is about to expire. what is the passing cut off on each course at queensland medical school? is it 60%? how hard are the exams?

 

[pcat24]

and one more thing, what happens if i fail a course, do i have to wait a full year to repeat that course or i would just get a supplementary exam?

 

[med_in_oz]

If you are actually 31 and almost finished your law degree then 1) I don't know why you would be on SDN getting this kind of life advice and 2) It would be dumb to quit your law degree now, because if you fail medicine as well you really have no backup plan. Finish law, and if medicine is truly your #1 choice, re-sit the MCAT and apply again. Do you really think that starting now or in 2 years is that much of a difference? I'm over 30 myself and have had 2 different careers, starting a year or 2 early makes no difference what so ever considering you might be working as a doctor for 30-40 years, but it would suck to quit law now, go to Queensland, fail out after a year or two, be in your mid 30's with lots of debt and no backup plan.

 

[pcat24]

If you are actually 31 and almost finished your law degree then 1) I don't know why you would be on SDN getting this kind of life advice and 2) It would be dumb to quit your law degree now, because if you fail medicine as well you really have no backup plan. Finish law, and if medicine is truly your #1 choice, re-sit the MCAT and apply again. Do you really think that starting now or in 2 years is that much of a difference? I'm over 30 myself and have had 2 different careers, starting a year or 2 early makes no difference what so ever considering you might be working as a doctor for 30-40 years, but it would suck to quit law now, go to Queensland, fail out after a year or two, be in your mid 30's with lots of debt and no backup plan.

well, I enrolled in a two years accelerated law degree. Our program offers a 2 years and 3 years programs. so if I take off law this january and go to medicine, i should know by October of 2016, whether i can handle medicine or not, if not I could just jump back to law and finish my degree. The only problem with this mini-detour is the cost. if Queensland medical school costs $65,000 per year, then this short de-tour may cost me $30,000 which may be a big waste! in terms of being able to get the admission again in two years time or not, that is easier said than done. I wrote the MCAT 4 times until I got 24, which is the minimum requirement to get the admission to med school and lucky me i got it. MCAT is getting harder, the possibility of passing it again is slim, i may have to study for MCAT for another 2 years and never pass it, so this is why i should decide can i handle queensland medical program or not right now, and if i can handle it then go for it. what is the passing cut off on each course at queensland medical school? what happens if i fail one course? will I get supplementary exams or fall behind a full year? ...I could not handle pharmacy, so quitting law now to jump to medicine, and then flunking out of medicine would be really soul crushing. i do not want my parents to keep paying, and i keep wasting it.

 

[med_in_oz]

If you put in 100% and only scored 24 on the MCAT on your fourth attempt, sorry but that's another reason you shouldn't dive into med school.

 

[pcat24]

If you put in 100% and only scored 24 on the MCAT on your fourth attempt, sorry but that's another reason you shouldn't dive into med school.

I studied a solid 3 or 4 months for MCAT and scored 24, I believe that in that time I was also taking biochemistry, pharmacokinetic, pharmacokinetic (all three combined into one course called Intensive patient focused care(IPFC)). I was taking the IPFC for the second time in pharmacy school after a failed first attempt, and I was focusing on MCAT. Prior to pharmacy, I studied psychology and with a week science background, not having taken organic chemistry, microbiology,...I spend a full year on MCAT and scored 17, 21, and 22.
i am scared of diving to medical school and think that it would be a mistake. Are you a medical student? which school are you studying in? what is the passing cut off on each course in med school?
I did pretty well on my undergraduate courses, but i do understand that medical school is much much harder.
what is the Average MCAT score of those who get admitted to queensland med school? if my score is the lowest, then yes i will struggle competing against others

 

[UBC2014]

I studied a solid 3 or 4 months for MCAT and scored 24, I believe that in that time I was also taking biochemistry, pharmacokinetic, pharmacokinetic (all three combined into one course called Intensive patient focused care(IPFC)). I was taking the IPFC for the second time in pharmacy school after a failed first attempt, and I was focusing on MCAT. Prior to pharmacy, I studied psychology and with a week science background, not having taken organic chemistry, microbiology,...I spend a full year on MCAT and scored 17, 21, and 22.
i am scared of diving to medical school and think that it would be a mistake. Are you a medical student? which school are you studying in? what is the passing cut off on each course in med school?
I did pretty well on my undergraduate courses, but i do understand that medical school is much much harder.
what is the Average MCAT score of those who get admitted to queensland med school? if my score is the lowest, then yes i will struggle competing against others

Didn't you interview twice at LMU-DCOM and get rejected/ waitlisted ?

IF you couldn't handle pharmacy school, you won't be able to handle medical school. You already have many red flags on the table towards your academic ability.

I would stick with your law degree and pursue those options.

Stop trying to please your parents and/or family and get on with it.

If you truly think medical school is for you - then go for it and try it out, and if you don't fail out, then you have your answer. If you feel that you have somehow turned things around, then again, go for it and try your best. But if you're just deceiving yourself thinking the acceptance means anything other than a simple chance - then maybe its best not to pursue it.

No one is going to make the decision for you.

 

[deleted212936]

hi all,

I recently got admitted to university of queensland medical school. i am very scared, and do not know if i should start studying medicine or decline this offer. my MCAT score was 24, yah pretty crap, but my undergraduate GPA in psychology was alright, and i did pretty well in pre-requisite biology and chemistry courses. However, I also studied doctor of pharmacy. I struggled with Doctor of pharmacy, failed biochemistry, pharmokinetic, pharmacodynamic, endocrinology and cardiology! yes, I know awesome! our passing cut of was 60%. I dropped out of pharmacy school and decided to pursue law. in all fairness, law is much easier and i know I will graduate from law if i complete my degree. i am in my second year of a two years accelerated law program. should i be insane enough to leave my law program and start medicine? do you guys think i can handle medicine or I will drop out? please respond asap as i need to accept my offer from queensland if i really want it. thanks

I do NOT suggest you to study Medicine. I never want to discourage people. But in your case, I am certain that you won't be able to handle Medicine because you have failed that many courses in pharmacy school - given that pharmacy courses are not as detailed as those in medical school. You will save yourself a lot of grief and money if you heed my advice. IF you had extenuating circumstance (eg, death in family, a tough breakup, mental illness, etc.) that made you unable to focus on school then that's another matter.

 

[pcat24]

Didn't you interview twice at LMU-DCOM and get rejected/ waitlisted ?

IF you couldn't handle pharmacy school, you won't be able to handle medical school. You already have many red flags on the table towards your academic ability.

I would stick with your law degree and pursue those options.

Stop trying to please your parents and/or family and get on with it.

If you truly think medical school is for you - then go for it and try it out, and if you don't fail out, then you have your answer. If you feel that you have somehow turned things around, then again, go for it and try your best. But if you're just deceiving yourself thinking the acceptance means anything other than a simple chance - then maybe its best not to pursue it.

No one is going to make the decision for you.

I am actually very surprised that you could figure out that I got interview from LMU-DCOM twice! The second time, I simply did not even go for the interview, and the first time, well people got into DCOM with lower MCAT scores than me! However, yes, the fact that I was not successful at pharmacy is perhaps a red flag. but then again there are only 10 pharmacy schools in Canada, and only two in Ontario, getting in was very competitive. most my classmates already had a master's degree. Nonetheless, yes, I could potentially fail at Queensland, and it all depends on how hard their exam are and what the passing cut off is, that is why I am a little scared of pursuing it! However, I do not want to regret it in future, and think that i had the opportunity but i was even scared of trying! if you know what I mean!

 

[UBC2014]

I am actually very surprised that you could figure out that I got interview from LMU-DCOM twice! The second time, I simply did not even go for the interview, and the first time, well people got into DCOM with lower MCAT scores than me! However, yes, the fact that I was not successful at pharmacy is perhaps a red flag. but then again there are only 10 pharmacy schools in Canada, and only two in Ontario, getting in was very competitive. most my classmates already had a master's degree. Nonetheless, yes, I could potentially fail at Queensland, and it all depends on how hard their exam are and what the passing cut off is, that is why I am a little scared of pursuing it! However, I do not want to regret it in future, and think that i had the opportunity but i was even scared of trying! if you know what I mean!

Again, if you couldn't pass pharmacy classes, it is very unlikely you will pass medical school classes - and as an IMG you would have to do more than just pass in order to make it to the residency stage. Getting into pharmacy school sure, is competitive - but that doesn't really mean anything other than supply and demand. Pharmacy school is difficult, but medical school is even more so. You would be an IMG, you would need to do at least above average to succeed in the long run - not make the bare minimum which is what you seem to be striving for and a track record for not even making that

You need to stop making excuses for yourself and either move on - or just go for it and find out the truth.

It's tough to hear, but those are the facts that you bring to the table.

You have to evaluate why you want to even go to medical school. If the drive is truly there - then finish law school first and then go. Getting a medical school acceptance to foreign schools is not difficult- there will always be program that will take you somewhere. You say the MCAT is a limiting factor - the MCAT is nothing compared to medical school or professional school in general(i.e. pharmacy).

Maybe seek out a learning specialist and get your study habits more in line with the medical sciences - as a 24 of being your highest score after 4 months and multiple repeats...is a huge red flag. Maybe you're ESL? and some may argue that yes, many people who do poorly on the MCAT due to being ESL, still end up being fine in medical school. But the problem is, you already proved that this potential case is unlikely to fit you. You did poorly on the MCAT and then failed out of pharmacy school - so you don't really have that potential wildcard in your back pocket.

Good luck with your decision, hope you don't regret it either way!

Just know, that if you do go to Australia for medicine, you better know that you can't simply just aim for a pass. You need to do well - since you'll have many board exams that will require intense preparations if you ever want to actually make it to residency and licensure.

 

[pcat24]

Again, if you couldn't pass pharmacy classes, it is very unlikely you will pass medical school classes - and as an IMG you would have to do more than just pass in order to make it to the residency stage. Getting into pharmacy school sure, is competitive - but that doesn't really mean anything other than supply and demand. Pharmacy school is difficult, but medical school is even more so. You would be an IMG, you would need to do at least above average to succeed in the long run - not make the bare minimum which is what you seem to be striving for and a track record for not even making that

You need to stop making excuses for yourself and either move on - or just go for it and find out the truth.

It's tough to hear, but those are the facts that you bring to the table.

You have to evaluate why you want to even go to medical school. If the drive is truly there - then finish law school first and then go. Getting a medical school acceptance to foreign schools is not difficult- there will always be program that will take you somewhere. You say the MCAT is a limiting factor - the MCAT is nothing compared to medical school or professional school in general(i.e. pharmacy).

Maybe seek out a learning specialist and get your study habits more in line with the medical sciences - as a 24 of being your highest score after 4 months and multiple repeats...is a huge red flag. Maybe you're ESL? and some may argue that yes, many people who do poorly on the MCAT due to being ESL, still end up being fine in medical school. But the problem is, you already proved that this potential case is unlikely to fit you. You did poorly on the MCAT and then failed out of pharmacy school - so you don't really have that potential wildcard in your back pocket.

Good luck with your decision, hope you don't regret it either way!

Just know, that if you do go to Australia for medicine, you better know that you can't simply just aim for a pass. You need to do well - since you'll have many board exams that will require intense preparations if you ever want to actually make it to residency and licensure.

thanks, so what if I do not want to practice in north america, what if i want to stay in Australia, would it be too difficult to secure a residency position there? so you think the reason that they accepted me with an MCAT of 24 is because as an international student i will be paying a higher tuition, and so i will have the chance of getting the admission again in future? but I heard that they are changing the MCAT and it is getting even harder, so if I got the bare minimum this time, there is a chance that i would not even get this in the future, and in that case will i get the admission again?

 

[UBC2014]

thanks, so what if I do not want to practice in north america, what if i want to stay in Australia, would it be too difficult to secure a residency position there? so you think the reason that they accepted me with an MCAT of 24 is because as an international student i will be paying a higher tuition, and so i will have the chance of getting the admission again in future? but I heard that they are changing the MCAT and it is getting even harder, so if I got the bare minimum this time, there is a chance that i would not even get this in the future, and in that case will i get the admission again?

Refer to my post above.

Getting a residency in australia is far from a guarantee, and especially these days its getting tougher.

Again, the MCAT should not be a barrier - if you're struggling that much...and not being able to handle pharmacy school also...you need to just move on and not do medicine. It's not for everyone. Unless something has drastically changed that you are now suddenly much more able to handle the difficulties of medicine, but that doesn't seem to be the case as you still keep referring to "bare minimums" and "passing grades". Recipe for disaster.

Keep with the law degree and maybe revisit this in the future if you still desire it...but desire isn't enough without work ethic and capabilities(work ethic more than anything).

 

[deleted158872]

thanks, so what if I do not want to practice in north america, what if i want to stay in Australia, would it be too difficult to secure a residency position there? so you think the reason that they accepted me with an MCAT of 24 is because as an international student i will be paying a higher tuition, and so i will have the chance of getting the admission again in future? but I heard that they are changing the MCAT and it is getting even harder, so if I got the bare minimum this time, there is a chance that i would not even get this in the future, and in that case will i get the admission again?

I have seen some US DO schools admitting MCAT in the 18-24. The admission process is precarious.

 

[pcat24]

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I have seen some US DO schools admitting MCAT in the 18-24. The admission process is precarious. .
I had done pharmacy school before going to med school. I can tell you that the courses in pharmacy are the exact courses in med school - except that the details we need to know in med school is like twice that in pharm school. so my opinion is that if you had failed those courses in pharm school, med school is very unlikely to work out for you. please save yourself some heartache. if in the future after you finish law school and still want medicine then UQ-Ochsner is still there for you. There are also international programs in Israel (Sackler) and Poland (Hope Univ) that are well regarded. and if medicine doesn't work out then you'll still have a law degree to fall back on.. .

Hi,
fair enough. yes, I will finish law school first. perhaps it is better than leaving it now that I am 2/3 through the program. US DO schools admit with MCAT IN 18-24? Seriously? which schools accept students with such low mcats? which pharmacy school did you go to?

 

[deleted158872]

US DO schools admit with MCAT IN 18-24? Seriously? which schools accept students with such low mcats?

Liberty COM, Burrell COM, Lincoln Memorial COM

 

[pcat24]

good to know!