I'm a layman... Need help

[bellytuong]

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When doctors operating surgery, there is some monitors outside the operating room which shows images of wavelength of brain etc. My question are:
a) what can we call they are?
b) What are they used for?
Please explain in layman's terms, thanks in advance

 

[Castro Viejo]

When doctors operating surgery, there is some monitors outside the operating room which shows images of wavelength of brain etc. My question are:
a) what can we call they are?
b) What are they used for?
Please explain in layman's terms, thanks in advance

Hmmm... Not typically. "Wavelength of brain" monitors aren't used in the OR generally. In certain cases, such as for a carotid endarterectomy, some sort of monitor might be used to look at evoked potentials from the brain.

But I'm not even sure what kind of monitors would be "outside the operating room" for all to watch.

Do you mean the patient tracking monitors? Some institutions use a patient tracking system to track vital signs and to let the surgeons and anesthesiologists know where the patient is (i.e., in preop, in the operating room, in the recovery room, or out of the OR area entirely).

 

[Blade28]

When doctors operating surgery, there is some monitors outside the operating room which shows images of wavelength of brain etc. My question are:
a) what can we call they are?
b) What are they used for?
Please explain in layman's terms, thanks in advance

You seem to be asking about something that you specifically saw somewhere - was this in person, on TV, etc.?

Similar to what Castro Viejo said, I've never heard of these types of monitors outside the OR.

 

[SocialistMD]

I can't think of any monitoring system that exists outside of the OR for patients who are undergoing surgery, brain or otherwise. There are EEG machines on epilepsy units that monitor brain activity watching for seizures, but typically we don't monitor brain activity while operating. We monitor the heart rate, blood pressure and oxygen saturation, but that isn't routinely displayed anywhere but in the OR. I wish I knew about what you are talking, but I can't figure it out.

 

[Pir8DeacDoc]

BIS monitoring?

Doesn't sound like what they are describing but the only thing that hasn't been mentioned above that might be it....

 

[SocialistMD]

BIS monitoring?

I was thinking about that, but when is that ever displayed anywhere except on the display of the monitor?

 

[Winged Scapula]

Wouldn't it be cool though if there was a real-time monitor like we have at Phx Sky Harbor..which tells you when the case has started, when the surgeon is closing, etc.?😀

 

[Raidergate]

Wouldn't it be cool though if there was a real-time monitor like we have at Phx Sky Harbor..which tells you when the case has started, when the surgeon is closing, etc.?😀

Scott and White has something similar to this on monitors in the main hallway going to the ORs. Pretty cool.

 

[Blade28]

Wouldn't it be cool though if there was a real-time monitor like we have at Phx Sky Harbor..which tells you when the case has started, when the surgeon is closing, etc.?😀

We have that here!

Of course it's up to the circulator to update the computer program as the case progresses...

Patient in pre-op
Patient in room
Patient asleep/intubated
Surgeon in room
Case started
Case closing
Case finished
Patient awake
Patient out of room
Patient in PACU

Etc.

 

[eclcell]

We even have a monitor in the waiting room that charts the progress of the cases. Families are given a code number that corresponds to a number for their family members on the monitor. Some surgeons are annoyed with it though because the families can figure out from it what the estimated time is for the cas.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Wow...cool. I guess I've been deprived!!!

Although I agree, I don't necessarily want patient's families having access to that.

 

[Castro Viejo]

Wouldn't it be cool though if there was a real-time monitor like we have at Phx Sky Harbor..which tells you when the case has started, when the surgeon is closing, etc.?😀

Penn uses such a system. I think the icon they use for the "Surgeon is Closing" is a big smiley face 🙂D). Sigh... Yet another nursing controlled hospital.

🙂

 

[Blade28]

So does that ever actually happen?

Occasionally.

 

[Pir8DeacDoc]

We have a system similar to this as well. Tells:

-where in the holding area the patient is located (makes finding your patient in pre-op much less painful)

-is the patient is ready for the OR (i.e. seen by anesthesia and consent stuff done

-then says "in Room", and "Surgery Start" once we make the incision.


The physicians have a log in so we can see the patient names and status info from any computer in the hospital. The families have monitors with similar information but only with OR Room numbers and not anything identifiable. So as long as they know which OR room their family member is in they can track the progress of the case. We don't have anything that denotes closing or anything like that. We do have "Surgery ended" and then "left room". Plus, when the patient is set as "in room" the system pages the doctors (designated by the nursing staff in the computer at the beginning of the day) with "patient XYZ in OR room 15" which is great!

 

[Blade28]

When doctors operating surgery, there is some monitors outside the operating room which shows images of wavelength of brain etc. My question are:
a) what can we call they are?
b) What are they used for?
Please explain in layman's terms, thanks in advance

Did we answer your question? Any thoughts to our questions?

 

[Percival]

I doubt if anybody answered his question. You guys have been in business for so long -- maybe you've forgotten what a layman knows? I'm an M1, practically a layman. He's probably asking about an EKG monitor. It's what we always see on TV, and maybe in the ER. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I think that's what he's asking about (if he's even serious).

OP, if you're asking about the line on the tiny screen with all the sharp peaks on it (and the beeps), it's an electrocardiogram. It just shows the rhythm of the heartbeat, and based on the shapes of the peaks on it, doctors can tell if the patient's heart is beating right, if they've had a heart attack, etc.

Other than that, my only experience in an OR was on the table with a hernia.

 

[core0]

We have that here!

Of course it's up to the circulator to update the computer program as the case progresses...

Patient in pre-op
Patient in room
Patient asleep/intubated
Surgeon in room
Case started
Case closing
Case finished
Patient awake
Patient out of room
Patient in PACU

Etc.

And of course the doctor with the happy face that shows the surgery has started.

David Carpenter, PA-C

 

[Blade28]

And of course the doctor with the happy face that shows the surgery has started.

David Carpenter, PA-C

Exactly! 🙂