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Hey guys, I'm in my second month of dental school and the first wave of midterms kind of took my self esteem shot it a couple times and then shat on it. I have not gone out a single weekend since school started and I've been spending the majority of my time studying and I'm still not making good grades. I feel really.... alone about this since my peers are mostly doing well on these exams (or at least so it seems). It just really sucks when you make your life revolve around school and you're not doing well at it.. The only thing I am confident in is wax-ups which are easy for me. Other than that... please I need some advice to make straight A's. Some of you may suggest to "just pass" and not care, but there is a partial scholarship on the line and I need to maintain my grades to get it (compounding to the stress). Trust me, I'm willing to do anything.
Thanks
 
Hey guys, I'm in my second month of dental school and the first wave of midterms kind of took my self esteem shot it a couple times and then shat on it. I have not gone out a single weekend since school started and I've been spending the majority of my time studying and I'm still not making good grades. I feel really.... alone about this since my peers are mostly doing well on these exams (or at least so it seems). It just really sucks when you make your life revolve around school and you're not doing well at it.. The only thing I am confident in is wax-ups which are easy for me. Other than that... please I need some advice to make straight A's. Some of you may suggest to "just pass" and not care, but there is a partial scholarship on the line and I need to maintain my grades to get it (compounding to the stress). Trust me, I'm willing to do anything.
Thanks
So are you failing the didactic courses or just not doing as well as you want? In dental school it's important to figure out what study methods work for you, and quickly, i.e. study smart, not hard. Some people need to work through the material over a week for several hours a day, other can cram 20 hrs of studying in 2-3 days and be fine. Some people need to verbally discuss the material, others can just sit in a room alone and read over the material. Have you tried recording lectures or does your institution use tegrity? It's hard to take notes and fully understand the lecture at the same time. I record every lecture, so if I feel like I missed a concept, I listen to it again. For me, my first goal is to understand the presented concepts, then memorize all the facts / details. The key to making A's is repetition. With so much material, it's easy to forget little details, which is a problem when every question is, "Which of the following is false about____?" Also, look into a tutor if you feel it is necessary. Your school wants you to do the best you can, so they will help.
 
thank you. We have recorded lectures, however, it is very time consuming trying to go through them. At this point I'm behind but I suppose if I put myself into overdrive for a week I'll be caught up and hopefully things will start looking up. You are right about the repetition thing, that may be my problem. I'm not failing but not meeting goals. I've lowered my standards and still haven't met the goals. wish me luck on this new week endeavor.
 
May be the problem is you're in over drive and have not given yourself a break. Do you exercise? Give yourself me time? There are a lot of students who study constantly, but are not doing it efficiently because their bodies need a break, more sleep, etc.
 
thank you. We have recorded lectures, however, it is very time consuming trying to go through them. At this point I'm behind but I suppose if I put myself into overdrive for a week I'll be caught up and hopefully things will start looking up. You are right about the repetition thing, that may be my problem. I'm not failing but not meeting goals. I've lowered my standards and still haven't met the goals. wish me luck on this new week endeavor.

I personally find listening to audio lectures to be a waste of time. Just spend the time memorizing every slide and if you don't understand a particular concept, go to the book or ask a classmate. Most professors (at least at my school) do a very good job at delineating what you do and do not need to know on the slides. There's such an enormous amount of information that the slides in and of themselves are more than enough to study; I couldn't imagine having to know every single detail coming out of the prof's mouth as well.

I tend to follow the above method to gain a good, albeit not incredibly in-depth, background of the material and then use the plethora of practice tests my school provides to brush up on what I don't know and tailor my studying.
 
hmm im a canadian as well that is applying this cycle, maybe you could PM me your thoughts about nyu since i interviewed there and im wondering how it is. i have some other interviews lined up and just wanted perspective
 
Study Mon through Sat till 7pm max. have a healthy dinner. get at least 8 hours of sleep. you have to have some rest and relaxation or you'll go nuts.

good grades requires learning the information, but more importantly learning how professors teach/what they test on. If they are legal, get your school's back test packet. basic test taking skills... go heavy on the key ideas that's where you'll get your money points!

oh and don't cram. if you get sick you're screwed, I learned that one the hard way 🙂
 
My method: watch (or listen, if your lecture recordings don't include video) a lecture at 1.6-2x speed, depending on how fast they talk. Do it leisurely, without taking notes or anything. Then go back and read all the slides, taking time to understand and remember what you can. Finally, make a second pass at watching the lecture, again at 2x speed, using that to fill in the gaps and refresh your memory on particular topics. Take notes here if needed, i.e. if the prof says a lot more than what the slides show.

I was in your same situation at the start of D1, and once I stopped going to class and studied this way, my grades went from just passing to well above the class average. YMMV.
 
My method: watch (or listen, if your lecture recordings don't include video) a lecture at 1.6-2x speed, depending on how fast they talk. Do it leisurely, without taking notes or anything. Then go back and read all the slides, taking time to understand and remember what you can. Finally, make a second pass at watching the lecture, again at 2x speed, using that to fill in the gaps and refresh your memory on particular topics. Take notes here if needed, i.e. if the prof says a lot more than what the slides show.

I was in your same situation at the start of D1, and once I stopped going to class and studied this way, my grades went from just passing to well above the class average. YMMV.

i agree, i used to intently listen to each lecture while in class while taking notes. if i missed a class or fell asleep, i would go back and listen to the lecture at home on 2x speed and it worked out very well. thennn d3/4 years rolled around...
 
The problem with dental school is it's made up of a bunch of people who are used to being at the top of the class. Unfortunately, someone will graduate last. You know what they call that person?? DOCTOR! Dental school is a marathon, not a sprint. I recommend trying out different study methods and finding out what works. Shake up your methods -- this isn't undergrad anymore and you can't study like you did before.
 
Dental school is pretty much like this all the way through. The only thing that will change is that eventually you will be in clinic working for graduation requirements instead of living inside powerpoint shows. Focus on memorization of all materials in the powerpoint and take the previously mentioned advice and take care of yourself. It's four long years. While losing a scholarship stinks, in the end you'll need the degree to work. Get the degree as a goal in school. Not everyone in your class will make it to the end.
 
I've been spending the majority of my time studying and I'm still not making good grades. I feel really.... alone about this since my peers are mostly doing well on these exams (or at least so it seems). It just really sucks when you make your life revolve around school and you're not doing well at it..

please I need some advice to make straight A's. Some of you may suggest to "just pass" and not care, but there is a partial scholarship on the line and I need to maintain my grades to get it (compounding to the stress).

I tend to be verbose, especially after coffee. So here's the summary if you just want to skip over the rest of the post:

- allow yourself to stop stressing out. It seems paradoxical, but you will focus better when you're relaxed; taking a day off might mean a huge boost in productivity for the next 6 days. Just ask God.

- you're not alone. There are entire departments devoted to helping students. Use them.

- get previous midterms and advice from D2's and D3's.

- stop stressing out. Seriously, figure out ways to destress. You will be more productive and a happier human being.

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1: I'm spending all my time studying
2: "everyone else is happy"
3: I'm really, really stressed out

Without knowing more, I'm mostly doing guesswork. But it's guesswork based upon a lot of friends and students that I've spoken to in the past, so hopefully you find something useful here.

I'm going to guess that being stressed out and not allowing yourself any real breaks has taken a toll on you. You feel tired, even exhausted, even when you're just getting out of bed after what you thought was a good rest; you might spend long seconds or minutes gazing into space, then wonder what you were thinking about; you might feel like you can't spend 3 minutes talking to people because you're losing out on 'precious study time'; you might feel a constant stiffness in your shoulders, knees, feet, back; you might feel random urges to cry, laugh, or punch something. I'm no psychiatrist, but these are the stress symptoms I get, and that my students have reported.

All of this stress compounds into a lack of efficiency, motivation, and ultimately, a performance downgrade. When your car is low on fuel, needs an oil change, and needs a tire replaced, do you push your foot on the accelerator harder and go "Stupid car! Why are you so stupid! You should be able to do these things, you're a freaking car and you did well on your DAT! Why can't you just keep driving?! SUCK IT UP, CAR!"? Probably not; you probably go and get the maintenance done, and wow: the car runs a lot better.

Yet people (myself included) work with this kind of self-flogging mentality on their own minds and bodies, every day, under the guise of "self discipline" or my favorite, "reality check: biochem/dental school/the MCAT/driving up a mountain isn't meant to be easy". Bonus points if you had strict (more bonus points if they were Asian) parents, since that mentality has likely been beaten (literally or figuratively) into you.

Take a good hard look at how you're actually studying. There's a temptation, prevalent in undergrad and absolutely RAMPANT in dental school, to compare yourself to the next guy, and say "Wow he's spending 8 hours in the library... I'd better stay 9 hours!" Remember that the goal is material retention. No matter what people say about d-school being hard, or time-eating, or whatever, you need to ignore it, and focus on what you are actually doing for yourself.

If (as a rough, exaggerated example) you examine your studying, and you find you're spending too much time with the lectures, going to lecture for 2 hours then listening to the lecture for 3 hours and then looking over your notes for 3 more hours, but you end up retaining little and understanding less, then you should have the flexibility to say "This is not working for me. I need to try something else".

Another temptation of school is to flog yourself into going to lectures because "you should go to every lecture". This is true, you should - but if you retain the material better from books and looking over the slide yourself, then you should do that. Make sure, at every point in your study time, that you are being productive in the retention sense, and not productive in the "make yourself feel better" sense.

Retention: drawing out glycolysis pathways until you can get it right from memory. Time: 30m
"Feel better": mapping out meticulous notes to a rambling, slow 2 hour lecture that only covers the first half of glycolysis. Time:2.5h

As a final note: you mentioned 'feeling alone'. Rest assured that many of your peers are struggling as well; as I'm sure you know, it is common and accepted to put a smile on your face and act calm in the face of danger. It's the "haha, I barely studied for this test omg i'm not rdy!" mask - people like acting like they're cruising by, not really studying, don't care much about the grade, etc etc etc. There wouldn't be an entire department designed for Academic Retention (at least at NYU) if there wasn't a demand for it. Businesses don't like throwing away money.

I would say instead of (in addition to?) reaching out to your fellow SDNers for help, wander over to whatever curriculum advisors you have, retention office, study help, D2's and D3's (D4's are usually dinosaurs who don't remember the exams 😉), and look for actual, in-person help for your unique situation.

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my first quarter of D1 year was terrible. i was in class or studied all day 6 days a week. Im sure i studied as much as anyone in my class if not more, and I barely passed anatomy and biochem....
---that was first quarter. you have to relearn how to study in dental school compared to undergrad.

the last 2 quarters of first year and first quarter or second year i have been near the upper third of the class.

so for me first quarter was a learning experience. just make sure you pass it and then things will go better as you learn how to study differently
 
You're not the only one feeling this way. I'm in the same boat... I was really struggling a few weeks ago (also a D1), and it has taken me figuring out how I study best to feel better about everything. For me, it was relistening to all the lectures and pausing, backing up, and making sure I understood everything. I'm still not 100% feeling great, but I'm getting on track. I think more of us D1's are struggling than want to admit!

We'll all make it through 🙂 Hope things are getting better for you!
 
If it gives you any consolation, I am getting worked over 2nd year! It's stressful to see your good grades go down the toilet, but that's school. At times you just have to suck it up and keep trucking... Good luck. Keep doing what you're doing. Give it 100% and you'll be fine in the end
 
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