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Hello everyone, I graduated university a year ago and here are my stats:

oGPA: 3.00 (in university), GPA right now: 2.92
sGPA: 2.40 (went back to community college to fix but messed it up)
No MCAT yet
80 of hours volunteering
20 hours of shadowing (2 doctors)

I know I won't get into any med school with my stats, I'm looking for a program that will help me enhance my stats. Right now I just feel like a failure, I'm unemployed (currently looking for a job at a mall, didn't get the scribe job i applied for). I don't have the money to waste on applications for schools that'll end up sending me a rejection letter. I've finished all of my pre-med pre reqs but I'm still not good enough. My question is what do i do? I don't mind going into nursing or any other program at this point as long as I end up in somebody's med school by 2017 latest. Please feel free and let me know what you think.
 
No program will enhance your shot. If you're actually serious you need to retake all grades below a C And try for DO.

But really you dun goofed
 
Hello everyone, I graduated university a year ago and here are my stats:

oGPA: 3.00 (in university), GPA right now: 2.92
sGPA: 2.40 (went back to community college to fix but messed it up)
No MCAT yet
80 of hours volunteering
20 hours of shadowing (2 doctors)

I know I won't get into any med school with my stats, I'm looking for a program that will help me enhance my stats. Right now I just feel like a failure, I'm unemployed (currently looking for a job at a mall, didn't get the scribe job i applied for). I don't have the money to waste on applications for schools that'll end up sending me a rejection letter. I've finished all of my pre-med pre reqs but I'm still not good enough. My question is what do i do? I don't mind going into nursing or any other program at this point as long as I end up in somebody's med school by 2017 latest. Please feel free and let me know what you think.

I understand how you feel OP, I have close friends in the same boat as you. Just feeling hopeless, lost, and uncertain about their futures because they didn't take college seriously. If you're still dead set on medicine, you need to first realize the road ahead for you will be long and hard, but some people in your circumstance still make it. The people that do though are ALOT more disciplined, committed, and motivated to get in to med school after messing up. If you're not, that's totally okay. Be honest with yourself, if your heart really isn't in to it you're only going to meet even more failure pursuing medicine. So the question is how bad do you want it, and how much are you willing to sacrifice to get it?

There's a guy on here with a pretty inspirational comeback story that he made a thread out of, I think he was in a similar situation as you, and he got accepted to med school this cycle. LacrosseDoc or something like that is his name, he'd be a good guy to for you get in touch with.
 
I understand how you feel OP, I have close friends in the same boat as you. Just feeling hopeless, lost, and uncertain about their futures because they didn't take college seriously. If you're still dead set on medicine, you need to first realize the road ahead for you will be long and hard, but some people in your circumstance still make it. The people that do though are ALOT more disciplined, committed, and motivated to get in to med school after messing up. If you're not, that's totally okay. Be honest with yourself, if your heart really isn't in to it you're only going to meet even more failure pursuing medicine. So the question is how bad do you want it, and how much are you willing to sacrifice to get it?

There's a guy on here with a pretty inspirational comeback story that he made a thread out of, I think he was in a similar situation as you, and he got accepted to med school this cycle. LacrosseDoc or something like that is his name, he'd be a good guy to for you get in touch with.
His story is in my signature.
 
I understand how you feel OP, I have close friends in the same boat as you. Just feeling hopeless, lost, and uncertain about their futures because they didn't take college seriously. If you're still dead set on medicine, you need to first realize the road ahead for you will be long and hard, but some people in your circumstance still make it. The people that do though are ALOT more disciplined, committed, and motivated to get in to med school after messing up. If you're not, that's totally okay. Be honest with yourself, if your heart really isn't in to it you're only going to meet even more failure pursuing medicine. So the question is how bad do you want it, and how much are you willing to sacrifice to get it?

There's a guy on here with a pretty inspirational comeback story that he made a thread out of, I think he was in a similar situation as you, and he got accepted to med school this cycle. LacrosseDoc or something like that is his name, he'd be a good guy to for you get in touch with.
Thank you 🙂🙂
 
If you went back to CC to fix the sGPA but ended up with a 2.4, then I would recommend taking a different path than medicine.
I concur with this. I'm assuming you have done a lot of credits to have graduated and gone back to school for more classes. If true, it would take you several years (possibly 3-4) to repair your GPA to a point where you can even apply.

Then again, if that's what you're willing to do, then go for it. I personally would try to find something else to do rather than spend another 4 years of my life doing pre-med grunt work.
 
Hello everyone, I graduated university a year ago and here are my stats:

oGPA: 3.00 (in university), GPA right now: 2.92
sGPA: 2.40 (went back to community college to fix but messed it up)
No MCAT yet
80 of hours volunteering
20 hours of shadowing (2 doctors)

I know I won't get into any med school with my stats, I'm looking for a program that will help me enhance my stats. Right now I just feel like a failure, I'm unemployed (currently looking for a job at a mall, didn't get the scribe job i applied for). I don't have the money to waste on applications for schools that'll end up sending me a rejection letter. I've finished all of my pre-med pre reqs but I'm still not good enough. My question is what do i do? I don't mind going into nursing or any other program at this point as long as I end up in somebody's med school by 2017 latest. Please feel free and let me know what you think.

Given the amount of GPA healing that you need and the red flag of doing poorly at community college coursework(that was trying to fix poor university coursework), I think the overall plan of matriculating in 2017 is unreasonable. You need at a minimum 2 years of solid coursework before even considering applying.

Some hard questions to consider:
-Do you really want to continue to take pre-med coursework?
-Are you honestly going to do any better the second (or third) time around in these courses? What is changing?
-Have you considered other health professions?

I would never equate deciding not to pursue medicine as a failure. Its not for everyone and I have several friends who choose to pursue something else early on and are very happy right now.
 
Retake all your C/D/F classes and then apply DO. If you can get As in them, it'll dramatically increase your GPA because DO schools offer grade replacement. I think that would be your best bet because to try to go MD with your GPAs would take years and years to fix that.

If this is really want you want to do, then work hard and good luck!
 
Hello everyone, I graduated university a year ago and here are my stats:

oGPA: 3.00 (in university), GPA right now: 2.92
sGPA: 2.40 (went back to community college to fix but messed it up)
No MCAT yet
80 of hours volunteering
20 hours of shadowing (2 doctors)

I know I won't get into any med school with my stats, I'm looking for a program that will help me enhance my stats. Right now I just feel like a failure, I'm unemployed (currently looking for a job at a mall, didn't get the scribe job i applied for). I don't have the money to waste on applications for schools that'll end up sending me a rejection letter. I've finished all of my pre-med pre reqs but I'm still not good enough. My question is what do i do? I don't mind going into nursing or any other program at this point as long as I end up in somebody's med school by 2017 latest. Please feel free and let me know what you think.

All of the following factors are important, not just one of them.

GPA - Your best shot at medical school in 2017 is to do some post-bacc work or graduate work with an excellent, near 4.0, GPA. Without asking nosy questions, you are the best person to determine if that is possible or not. Common reasons that people have severe GPA damage includes undiagnosed learning disabilities (check with a neuropsychologist if that might be you), lousy instruction (consider finding a tutor), and crisis in personal life.

BACK DOOR - Another possibility might be medical schools that automatically offer admission to people who do "so well*" in an affiliated program, usually a post bacc program or special masters program (SMP) offered by either the medical school itself, or a closely affiliated university. (*"So well" will vary from program to program. Different programs have different requirements.)

MCAT - A really high MCAT score will help your situation. AAMC practice test scores are the best way to determine if you need more preparation or are ready for the real test.

EXPLAINING - Consider explaining somewhere on your application what factors lowered your GPAs. And if you get a high MCAT score, remember to be communicative, and ideally explain how it is that the MCAT is good and not the GPA. (In general, concise statements that fully explain matters are optimal for many reasons, not the least of which, it will allow you room to focus on more positive things.)

Your goal is to show ADCOMs that, 1. You will not get slaughtered in medical school, and 2. You are intellectually capable of being a doctor.

SCRIBE/NURSE/ETC.(response to OP question) - If your ultimate goal truly is to be a doctor, then finding an alternate job in medicine is fine so long as it doesn't require so much time (and other resources) that it significantly hinders your progress toward your medical school application, including post-bacc/graduate GPAs. GPAs and MCAT scores rule.

IF ALL ELSE FAILS - Since this is the MD forum, and given the competitiveness of getting into an MD program, I would like to point out that if all else fails, I've heard of a few MD programs that are not listed in the MSAR (you might have better luck there), podiatry, gaining Texas residency (possibly an option to some people, maybe not others), checking to see if you're mission and history align with mission-based MD schools like Meharry and Morehouse, and maybe D.O. programs. (DO programs are generally fine if there are lots of D.O.s practicing where you want to live, in your specialty, AND you don't mind the D.O. curriculum. Some people love it; some can't stand it.) The one caution I would provide is if you ever consider a program in the Caribbean, make sure - and absolutely sure - that a reasonable number of graduates from that school get residencies, and if they don't, don't go.

Good luck!
 
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thanks for the shout outs as usual guys! didn't read through everything as I'm preparing for an upcoming interview, but if I can be of any assistance to you OP, please don't hesitate to shoot me a message.

EDIT: Responded to your PM, OP. my message to you should contain all the info you need on the situation and your viable options. Hope that helps, and let me know if I can help with anything else. Best of luck
 
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If I were you... I would re-take just about all the C's, especially the science ones. Then think about doing a master's program where you can step away from the undergraduate studies and be able to "re-present" a new you. Do awesome work in a graduate program; all the while continue volunteering and shadowing and get some clinical work if you can.

Then when the time comes, do well on the MCAT and at that point your story should appear pretty clearly that you are ready; that you are someone who is capable and driven but was a little late with the maturity and focus.
 
Hello everyone, I graduated university a year ago and here are my stats:

oGPA: 3.00 (in university), GPA right now: 2.92
sGPA: 2.40 (went back to community college to fix but messed it up)
No MCAT yet
80 of hours volunteering
20 hours of shadowing (2 doctors)

I know I won't get into any med school with my stats, I'm looking for a program that will help me enhance my stats. Right now I just feel like a failure, I'm unemployed (currently looking for a job at a mall, didn't get the scribe job i applied for). I don't have the money to waste on applications for schools that'll end up sending me a rejection letter. I've finished all of my pre-med pre reqs but I'm still not good enough. My question is what do i do? I don't mind going into nursing or any other program at this point as long as I end up in somebody's med school by 2017 latest. Please feel free and let me know what you think.

I really like your username 🙂 I think the question that hasn't been asked here is what has caused you to not succeed in your courses?
 
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