Immunizations advancing the profession!!

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I didn't understand before but i am starting to understand how giving immunizations increase the professionalism and will increase employment opportunities for pharmacists. I am told the CVS flyer for the week states that if you buy $30.00 in P & G products(tide, toilet paper, shampoo) you can get a free flu shot. I think this can only increase the public's perception of the knowledge and abilities that pharmacists have. Tying that to the purchase of Tide and toilet paper can only make us more appear more professional.

Friends that work for them say that their stores have quotos on flu shots from between 500 and 800 per store based on rx volume. These are on demand(people just come in and request one- no appointment required) but the immmunizer has to have at least two devoted clinics of 8 hours each per month to reach the stores goal. They think they get paid but there are no additional tech hours given to help the immunizer.

Anybody else hearing this? sounds like a reciepe for disaster.

Old timer if you are out there - I wondered how many flu shots you gave this week and if this is true in your area.

 

[Old Timer]

I didn't understand before but i am starting to understand how giving immunizations increase the professionalism and will increase employment opportunities for pharmacists. I am told the CVS flyer for the week states that if you buy $30.00 in P & G products(tide, toilet paper, shampoo) you can get a free flu shot. I think this can only increase the public's perception of the knowledge and abilities that pharmacists have. Tying that to the purchase of Tide and toilet paper can only make us more appear more professional.

Friends that work for them say that their stores have quotos on flu shots from between 500 and 800 per store based on rx volume. These are on demand(people just come in and request one- no appointment required) but the immmunizer has to have at least two devoted clinics of 8 hours each per month to reach the stores goal. They think they get paid but there are no additional tech hours given to help the immunizer.

Anybody else hearing this? sounds like a reciepe for disaster.

Old timer if you are out there - I wondered how many flu shots you gave this week and if this is true in your area.

Partly true, but I can't comment at this time as the people above me have not fully laid out their plans on how they are going to meet this goal. This does not just fall on the stores, it falls on field management as well.

 

[rxtasy]

lol, pharmacy a profession??? we are corporate ******...best to just accept it, save as much money as you can, and get the hell out. common sense says that this career is going down the toilet. the signs have been there for a long time...but everyone was just to blinded by their salaries to read them.

 

[Old]

Partly true, but I can't comment at this time as the people above me have not fully laid out their plans on how they are going to meet this goal. This does not just fall on the stores, it falls on field management as well.

Are you an immunizer? I would think with your work ethic and respect for your company that you would be. How are the flu shots on demand working out for you? How about the clinics?😕

 

[Old Timer]

Are you an immunizer? I would think with your work ethic and respect for your company that you would be. How are the flu shots on demand working out for you? How about the clinics?😕

In PA, you need a license to immunize and mine has not yet arrived...

 

[Old Timer]

lol, pharmacy a profession??? we are corporate ******...best to just accept it, save as much money as you can, and get the hell out. common sense says that this career is going down the toilet. the signs have been there for a long time...but everyone was just to blinded by their salaries to read them.

How long have you been a pharmacist? before I blast you into 1 billion pieces I want to know if your are blind or inexperienced

 

[owlegrad]

lol, pharmacy a profession??? we are corporate ******...best to just accept it, save as much money as you can, and get the hell out. common sense says that this career is going down the toilet. the signs have been there for a long time...but everyone was just to blinded by their salaries to read them.

"too blinded"

 

[deleted205891]

This is true, but it is offset by the fact that chains are now requiring pharmacists to add immunizing to the duties of the workday (while completing all their other responsibilities) in the same time as they would previously, when they weren't immunizing. Also I hear of CVSs requiring pharmacists to come in on weekends without compensation to immunize.

Immunizations would be profitable for us if we made them profitable for us. Therefore, the part about corporate ****** is also partly true. Now with outpt. collaborative practice agreements being allowed in many states, I imagine that many of the chains will get in on this (a store paired to a Dr.'s office) while not reimbursing individual pharmacists for activities related to this and still making them complete their other duties.

 

[rxtasy]

How long have you been a pharmacist? before I blast you into 1 billion pieces I want to know if your are blind or inexperienced

isn't just one day long enough?? a billion pieces...good one

 

[rxtasy]

"too blinded"

oh thanks grammar check...maybe you should work on your math and add up how much money you are wasting in rx school

 

[Old Timer]

isn't just one day long enough?? a billion pieces...good one

So, I ask again, how long have you been a pharmacist?

 

[rxtasy]

why does it matter? do you need to know personal info? what would you guess?

 

[Old Timer]

why does it matter? do you need to know personal info? what would you guess?

I don't guess. I need to know how long you have been practicing so I can tailor my answer accordingly.

 

[Old]

I don't guess. I need to know how long you have been practicing so I can tailor my answer accordingly.

Guys, fight nice.😀

 

[rxtasy]

fair enough...i will give you a range of 8-13 years

 

[Old Timer]

fair enough...i will give you a range of 8-13 years

You have lived through the golden age of chain retail pharmacy. Were CVS and Walgreens have grown into Mega corporations and pharmacist salaries have grown just as well.

What you haven't lived through is pharmacy before the chains ruled the world and since you don't you are clueless as to what caused the death of retail pharmacy practice. The chains are result, not a cause of the collaboration of the greed of the insurance industry, the drug industry and the utter lack of vision by APHA, NARD (or whatever they call themselves now) and the multitude of independent pharmacists who would only look at their store and not do anything for the betterment of the profession.

You look back at yesteryear like it was all peaches and cream and every pharmacist worked 9-5 with an hour for lunch. It wasn't that way. It was just as ****ty as it is now, except now we are at the top of the food chain. We make more, we have 401K's, stock options, 3+ week vacations, paid holidays, overtime. I worked as an independent from 1982 until 2001. Only one person had any kind of pension plan. Duties will expand all of the time especially in a recession.

Your views are unrealistic and uniformed by history or perspective.

 

[owlegrad]

oh thanks grammar check...maybe you should work on your math and add up how much money you are wasting in rx school

You're welcome.

 

[rxtasy]

You have lived through the golden age of chain retail pharmacy. Were CVS and Walgreens have grown into Mega corporations and pharmacist salaries have grown just as well.

What you haven't lived through is pharmacy before the chains ruled the world and since you don't you are clueless as to what caused the death of retail pharmacy practice. The chains are result, not a cause of the collaboration of the greed of the insurance industry, the drug industry and the utter lack of vision by APHA, NARD (or whatever they call themselves now) and the multitude of independent pharmacists who would only look at their store and not do anything for the betterment of the profession.

You look back at yesteryear like it was all peaches and cream and every pharmacist worked 9-5 with an hour for lunch. It wasn't that way. It was just as ****ty as it is now, except now we are at the top of the food chain. We make more, we have 401K's, stock options, 3+ week vacations, paid holidays, overtime. I worked as an independent from 1982 until 2001. Only one person had any kind of pension plan. Duties will expand all of the time especially in a recession.

Your views are unrealistic and uniformed by history or perspective.

Angry old timer...ah, so it was never really a profession after all. Thanks for the clarification.

Chains, drug industry, insurance companies====all corporations.

Salaries-big deal when you consider inflation and the cost of tuition. 401(k)-oh yea, that has been a real great investment tool over the last decade...what a gambling scam

I've worked at a couple independents in the past. I know the story. Just because I did not live through it does not mean I have not heard it over and over again.

I want to give a big thanks to you and your generation for being a bunch of sell outs. Not just in pharmacy but in general. Bunch of suckers who believed in our corporate capitalist system because some day you'd have it all. You have officially helped to destroy our middle class. Thanks.

My perspective is just is valid as yours. "Your views are unrealistic and uniformed by history or perspective."---I bet your parents and grandparents would say the same thing to you.

How about this perspective...it appears you spend way too much time on this board commenting on crap that really doesn't matter. I suggest you retire and open a spot for one of these new grads. Go enjoy all that money you saved up in your 401k....life is too short...like i said before, save up and get out while you can.

 

[RealistRPh]

I didn't understand before but i am starting to understand how giving immunizations increase the professionalism and will increase employment opportunities for pharmacists. I am told the CVS flyer for the week states that if you buy $30.00 in P & G products(tide, toilet paper, shampoo) you can get a free flu shot. I think this can only increase the public's perception of the knowledge and abilities that pharmacists have. Tying that to the purchase of Tide and toilet paper can only make us more appear more professional.

Friends that work for them say that their stores have quotos on flu shots from between 500 and 800 per store based on rx volume. These are on demand(people just come in and request one- no appointment required) but the immmunizer has to have at least two devoted clinics of 8 hours each per month to reach the stores goal. They think they get paid but there are no additional tech hours given to help the immunizer.

Anybody else hearing this? sounds like a reciepe for disaster.

Old timer if you are out there - I wondered how many flu shots you gave this week and if this is true in your area.

Amen, absolute disaster in the making! So glad I am out!

 

[Its Z]

Chains, drug industry, insurance companies====all corporations.

And what industry isn't driven by corporations?

Salaries-big deal when you consider inflation and the cost of tuition. 401(k)-oh yea, that has been a real great investment tool over the last decade...what a gambling scam

And this ill effect of geopolitical economy only affects pharmacy??

I want to give a big thanks to you and your generation for being a bunch of sell outs. Not just in pharmacy but in general. Bunch of suckers who believed in our corporate capitalist system because some day you'd have it all. You have officially helped to destroy our middle class. Thanks.

Right.... like the new generation of PharmD who took the signon bonuses from those corporataions instead of trying to build a better foundation for retail pharmacy aren't sellouts?

How about this perspective...it appears you spend way too much time on this board commenting on crap that really doesn't matter. I suggest you retire and open a spot for one of these new grads.

At least some of his information help students and other pharmacists. Where's your contribution?

Go enjoy all that money you saved up in your 401k....life is too short...like i said before, save up and get out while you can.

I bet he has more saved up than you do...

Now... get out and do what?

 

[rxtasy]

hey Z...apparently you and you old geezer buddy just like to argue for the sake of it because both of you missed the point of my original post, ie pharmacy is not a profession. it is funny watching you old farts argue about nothing and making points that are irrelevant to the argument. you two are just like pharmacy customers...want me to explain your Part D copay for you? oh, it is Obama's fault your copay is so high? my god, another bozo with over 1000 posts....go play some golf...that is what I'd being doing if I was retired.

 

[Its Z]

dont you worry...while ur slaving away like a bozo the clown at a reatil joint of ur choice, i get to work from home and travel according to my schedule...and guess what...i get to play alot more golf than you ever will...and even get paid to do so while business travels...so a loser pharmist like you can explain medicare part d to patients.

lets get this straight...what you do is not a profession. what i do is.

have a great evening..

 

[Old Timer]

hey Z...apparently you and you old geezer buddy just like to argue for the sake of it because both of you missed the point of my original post, ie pharmacy is not a profession. it is funny watching you old farts argue about nothing and making points that are irrelevant to the argument. you two are just like pharmacy customers...want me to explain your Part D copay for you? oh, it is Obama's fault your copay is so high? my god, another bozo with over 1000 posts....go play some golf...that is what I'd being doing if I was retired.

Life is what you make it. It must suck to be you. It's pretty good to me. I love what I do, most of the time and I am a professional. I've helped people with things large and small about their health and I have been doing it since you were in diapers. Take your unhappiness and peddle your gloom and doom somewhere else, we're all full up here.

 

[Doctor M]

lol, pharmacy a profession??? we are corporate ******...best to just accept it, save as much money as you can, and get the hell out. common sense says that this career is going down the toilet. the signs have been there for a long time...but everyone was just to blinded by their salaries to read them.

It will only go down the toilet if you let it...Its all what you make of it and what you enjoy...I hated it for a very long time, and I have found my love for the profession...

 

[rxtasy]

dont you worry...while ur slaving away like a bozo the clown at a reatil joint of ur choice, i get to work from home and travel according to my schedule...and guess what...i get to play alot more golf than you ever will...and even get paid to do so while business travels...so a loser pharmist like you can explain medicare part d to patients.

lets get this straight...what you do is not a profession. what i do is.

have a great evening..

Z, you really sound like a child. "I have more in my 401k than you, I play more golf than you". I think you've proven one of my latter points. You are part of the me, me, me generation and we can all thank you for destroying the USA. Way to go! Your reading comprehension sucks and your spelling is not much better...you can't spell "pharmacist", really?

Old timer, yea...you sound really happy. Oh, and by the way, how can you be helping a patient's health when most of the stuff on the shelves are prescribed poison? You think you know a lot more than you really do.

To both of you, have fun posting away instead of spending time with your grandchildren. This conversation is over.

 

[Its Z]

Z, you really sound like a child. "I have more in my 401k than you,

LOL...where did I say that?

I play more golf than you". I think you've proven one of my latter points. You are part of the me, me, me generation and we can all thank you for destroying the USA. Way to go!

Me me??? quite the contrary...wasn't it you who said "you" would be playing more golf if retired? Sounds like it's all about you!

Your reading comprehension sucks

Oh the irony... I said " I bet he has more saved up than you do..." referring to Oldtimer.

And you read it as "I have more in my 401K than you." And you're making fun of my reading comprehesion???

and your spelling is not much better...you can't spell "pharmacist", really?

Lordy... you with a gnat brain wouldn't understand using "pharmist" instead of "pharmacist" is in jest to put you down....

To both of you, have fun posting away instead of spending time with your grandchildren. This conversation is over.

The famous last words of someone who's been defeated!

Don't let the door hit your ass..

Goodbye now!

 

[Its Z]

And please don't send me PMs telling me my spelling sux. It's hard to type on a blackberry... 👍

 

[type b pharmD]

LOL this thread is epic! rxstasy, you should do some critical thinking before throwing down vs the heavyweights on here!

seriously . most entertaining thread ive seen in weeks

 

[rph3664]

Back on track: When I left retail pharmacy in 2002, the store's new director was expecting us to be immunization certified. One of my colleagues, who gave shots as an Army medic before he went to pharmacy school, said there was no way on earth he would do that without a physician present.

 

[rxforlife2004]

Back on track: When I left retail pharmacy in 2002, the store's new director was expecting us to be immunization certified. One of my colleagues, who gave shots as an Army medic before he went to pharmacy school, said there was no way on earth he would do that without a physician present.

I have no idea why some pharmacists are such p**s*y like this. Come on, it's just giving a flu shot. What's so hard about it? You already went to school for 6+ yrs , and can't even dare to give a shot? As long as it's under protocols, i'm fine with it. Heck, I'd love to do a neck/hip surgery if I have to...and as long as I have enough training.

Anyway, No...immunization won't advance our profession. In fact, it makes the public think we're at the same level as nurses, which we are not. I wanna make it clear that I have been going to school for more than 6 yrs not to be at the same level of an RN or LVN by giving shots. This isn't my job. Now, that doesn't mean I can't do it. It's like "Can the doctors change patient's dressing?" Sure. "Do doctors change patient's dressing?" No, that' s the nurse job.

Advancing our profession is when you're talking about pharmacists have the rights and privileges to change/alter medications in special circumstances. How many times as a pharmacist when you process an order of coumadin for patient and you check lab, the PT/INR is not there!!!! And u just wanna freaking slap at the MD who orders that. And then u have to call him for a permission to order labs...How many times do you monitor an antibiotic for a patient, culture comes out to be MRSA , and on the antibiogram shows resistance to cipro ...and pt is on freaking Levaquin!!!!....and u just wanna d/c that levaquin right away!!! But u have to call him for authorization...blah blah blah
Now if our profession allows us to change/alter meds without MD's authorization in specific cases like mentioned above....that's the real advancing profession, my friend.

 

[rph3664]

Our store certainly had flu shot clinics, where the general public could get a shot for $15 or free with their Medicare Part B card (I said that so many times, I felt like a robot) but they brought in a doctor, and nurses from the community.

Several times, we had to let them into our in-the-pharmacy bathroom because a woman who had not planned to do this had dressed in such a way, she couldn't roll up her sleeve far enough 😳 , and one memorable incident where a mom who was shopping with her young child decided to get a shot, and when her child heard "shot" started screaming in fear, and we all had to convince him that the shot was for Mommy.

 

[StevePerry]

dont you worry...while ur slaving away like a bozo the clown at a reatil joint of ur choice, i get to work from home and travel according to my schedule...and guess what...i get to play alot more golf than you ever will...and even get paid to do so while business travels...so a loser pharmist like you can explain medicare part d to patients.

lets get this straight...what you do is not a profession. what i do is.

have a great evening..

Hey man you should have at least given rxtasy this before your last response:

 

[Mariachi]

Z, you really sound like a child. "I have more in my 401k than you, I play more golf than you". I think you've proven one of my latter points. You are part of the me, me, me generation and we can all thank you for destroying the USA. Way to go! Your reading comprehension sucks and your spelling is not much better...you can't spell "pharmacist", really?

Old timer, yea...you sound really happy. Oh, and by the way, how can you be helping a patient's health when most of the stuff on the shelves are prescribed poison? You think you know a lot more than you really do.

To both of you, have fun posting away instead of spending time with your grandchildren. This conversation is over.

"Poison" ? Huh? I don't think this person is a pharmacist.

 

[SHC1984]

I didn't understand before but i am starting to understand how giving immunizations increase the professionalism and will increase employment opportunities for pharmacists. I am told the CVS flyer for the week states that if you buy $30.00 in P & G products(tide, toilet paper, shampoo) you can get a free flu shot. I think this can only increase the public's perception of the knowledge and abilities that pharmacists have. Tying that to the purchase of Tide and toilet paper can only make us more appear more professional.

Friends that work for them say that their stores have quotos on flu shots from between 500 and 800 per store based on rx volume. These are on demand(people just come in and request one- no appointment required) but the immmunizer has to have at least two devoted clinics of 8 hours each per month to reach the stores goal. They think they get paid but there are no additional tech hours given to help the immunizer.

Anybody else hearing this? sounds like a reciepe for disaster.

Old timer if you are out there - I wondered how many flu shots you gave this week and if this is true in your area.

Immunzations suck. I have to do that **** in Nov and I am not looking forward to getting stabbed with a needle by someone that is not a doctor. 🙄 If I need to get immunized I go to a doctor, why involve a pharmacist into this? 👎

If I had a fetish to stick needles into people I could have easily went to medical school instead or just stay in dental school.

 

[hcp]

I don't mind giving flu shots, but I think it would be better if the shots are given by appointment only. It's hell when I'm alone in the pharmacy, and I have patients dropping off/picking up prescriptions, 2 cars in drive-thru, and phones ringing like crazy and impatient people asking me: why is it taking so long to get my flu shot???

Some tech hours are being increased/decreased based on how many flu shots are given at the pharmacy...

 

[Style]

Immunzations suck. I have to do that **** in Nov and I am not looking forward to getting stabbed with a needle by someone that is not a doctor. 🙄 If I need to get immunized I go to a doctor, why involve a pharmacist into this? 👎

If I had a fetish to stick needles into people I could have easily went to medical school instead or just stay in dental school.

Because only doctors (by that I'm sure you meant family physician rather than doctors of pharmacy) are qualified to give immunizations?

What about nurses?

Based on stereotypes of a profession, I think it should be nursing school then. They usually do more needle sticking.

 

[genesis09]

When I get immunizations from my MD office, it's the nurse who actually gives them. I can't recall a MD ever giving an immunization.

 

[owlegrad]

When I get immunizations from my MD office, it's the nurse who actually gives them. I can't recall a MD ever giving an immunization.

I was gonna say the same thing. I don't think an MD has ever personally given me a shot.

 

[Sparda29]

I was gonna say the same thing. I don't think an MD has ever personally given me a shot.

Yeah, it's usually the PA that gives me shots. Except when I was a kid, my pediatrician was the one who gave shots.

 

[MountainPharmD]

When I get immunizations from my MD office, it's the nurse who actually gives them. I can't recall a MD ever giving an immunization.

It was probably an MA. Hardly any nurses work in Doctors offices any more. Medical assistants are much cheaper and do not need any special training. In Texas are they do not have to be licensed and they are not regulated.

Scary if you ask me.

 

[104921]

Immunzations suck. I have to do that **** in Nov and I am not looking forward to getting stabbed with a needle by someone that is not a doctor. 🙄 If I need to get immunized I go to a doctor, why involve a pharmacist into this? 👎

If I had a fetish to stick needles into people I could have easily went to medical school instead or just stay in dental school.

What do you think the D in PharmD stands for? You say you're in pharmacy school? 😡 I'm not sure if that little eye-rolly thing means sarcasm or not.
I can't stand pharmacists who won't immunize and say "I went to pharmacy school because I'm afraid of needles!". If all you want to do is sling pills all day go back and be a tech. Grr.

 

[charfdorn]

What do you think the D in PharmD stands for? You say you're in pharmacy school? 😡 I'm not sure if that little eye-rolly thing means sarcasm or not.
I can't stand pharmacists who won't immunize and say "I went to pharmacy school because I'm afraid of needles!". <b>If all you want to do is sling pills all day go back and be a tech.</b> Grr.

THIS is something a lot of people need to listen to, especially as the debt-to-projected earnings ratio for pharmacy students continues to go up. The tech market is decidedly NOT saturated, and does not require a grueling four years of graduate-level coursework or even licensure in some states. If you're smart with your money, prioritize your expenses, and save money now, you can have a plenty comfortable life working as a career technician without the hassle of getting into pharmacy school and then landing a job in what will probably be a saturated market in 2012/13/14/15/16 when most members of these boards will be graduating.

Pharmacy school does not teach you how to make $50/hr being a tech in a white coat.

 

[Ackj]

What about nurses?

Based on stereotypes of a profession, I think it should be nursing school then. They usually do more needle sticking.

Our school has flu shots included in our tuition, and the nursing students are the ones giving the shots. They each do about 20 shots and then switch off. Not a bad way for them to gain experience.

 

[SHC1984]

What do you think the D in PharmD stands for? You say you're in pharmacy school? 😡 I'm not sure if that little eye-rolly thing means sarcasm or not.
I can't stand pharmacists who won't immunize and say "I went to pharmacy school because I'm afraid of needles!". If all you want to do is sling pills all day go back and be a tech. Grr.

I am going into pharmacy to do mail order or compounding or maybe research. If I like needles, blood, bodily fluids and touching patients etc. I would have gone to medical school. I have the grades and test scores for it. It's just not my cup of tea.

I can't stand pharmacists that really want to do everything a MD is suppose to be doing. If that's the case go to medical school. Why go to pharmacy school so you can try to do a MD's job?

 

[Praziquantel86]

I am going into pharmacy to do mail order or compounding or maybe research. If I like needles, blood, bodily fluids and touching patients etc. I would have gone to medical school. I have the grades and test scores for it. It's just not my cup of tea.

I can't stand pharmacists that really want to do everything a MD is suppose to be doing. If that's the case go to medical school. Why go to pharmacy school so you can try to do a MD's job?

I'm trying to do a pharmacist's job...which involves taking care of patients. If providing immunizations is a way that I can do that, then I certainly will. You might not want do anything that involves getting off your ass, but please don't cheapen the entire profession and bring it down to your lazy level.

 

[Old]

What do you think the D in PharmD stands for? You say you're in pharmacy school? 😡 I'm not sure if that little eye-rolly thing means sarcasm or not.
I can't stand pharmacists who won't immunize and say "I went to pharmacy school because I'm afraid of needles!". If all you want to do is sling pills all day go back and be a tech. Grr.

More words of wisdom from people who have never done the job. Seriously, if your a pharmacy student and have NEVER had to do immunizations along with all the other things going on such as drive thru,phones, and a million other customers PLEASE sign up with geologist or astronaut forums and comment there. You have as much experience and knowledge to share there as your postings here. Again, listen to the people, registered pharms, and what they go through in their jobs. They are living it and you are not.

I have been watching some new grads getting some real life experience as a pharmacist with a large chain. So far, a little different than they thought.

 

[Aznfarmerboi]

More words of wisdom from people who have never done the job. Seriously, if your a pharmacy student and have NEVER had to do immunizations along with all the other things going on such as drive thru,phones, and a million other customers PLEASE sign up with geologist or astronaut forums and comment there. You have as much experience and knowledge to share there as your postings here. Again, listen to the people, registered pharms, and what they go through in their jobs. They are living it and you are not.

I have been watching some new grads getting some real life experience as a pharmacist with a large chain. So far, a little different than they thought.

I love new grads. I try to make their life as easy as possible but it is always a humbling experience for them when they go from superstars treated out to dinners and company parties to shut up and do your never ending job. Then they make their first mistake and all of a sudden, they know what it is all about.

 

[Old]

I love new grads. I try to make their life as easy as possible but it is always a humbling experience for them when they go from superstars treated out to dinners and company parties to shut up and do your never ending job. Then they make their first mistake and all of a sudden, they know what it is all about.

👍👍

You have no idea what its like until your busy all the time and the DM or Pharm sup comes in and complains about dust on the shelves, a coffe cup in the sink, someone waiting to long at the drive through etc etc etc. I think the students think they will be highly respected and will be giving flu shots in their private office after a counseling session. Wait until they have flu shot quotas of 600 this flu season and are called everyday to see how many they gave yesterday and why they have not hit their assigned target level.

I do agree most are good people and working is like a slap in the face for them. Some have an arrogant attitude and a chip on their shoulder that they are a "Doctor". There is some pleasure watching those ones crash and burn.😀

 

[Allure]

I don't mind giving flu shots, but what I hate the most about our profession is that there is never enough time to do anything. I don't want to be rushed when I am about to stick a needle in someone's arm.

The general public just think we are not doing much and getting paid handsomely for our service. I've been told by non-pharmacy people that pharmacists don't do much and how their jobs are stress-free. They just don't know that a lot of us work long hours with no lunch break. Oh well...

 

[rph3664]

I am going into pharmacy to do mail order or compounding or maybe research. If I like needles, blood, bodily fluids and touching patients etc. I would have gone to medical school. I have the grades and test scores for it. It's just not my cup of tea.

I can't stand pharmacists that really want to do everything a MD is suppose to be doing. If that's the case go to medical school. Why go to pharmacy school so you can try to do a MD's job?

I've had quite a few classmates and colleagues who chose pharmacy over MD/DO because they knew they couldn't handle things like cutting into people, sticking needles into them, or telling someone that their child had died. I don't have a problem with pharmacists giving immunizations. I have a HUGE problem with chains requiring them to do so, and really feel that this is more of a nurse's territory.