in it for the $$$, where to go?

[goldfish85]

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ok i didnt know where to post this so i posted here since it has the most viewers...

i have a sub 3.0 gpa. from a good school. entering my senior year. so my options are limited but i wanted to know...

which career path (med school(+speciality), dentisty, pharm, grad school, etc) make the most money and fast? and its not super hard to get into. if your in it for money, where is it best to go?

thx

 

[SpinEcho13]

A dentist will probably make more than a physician and is MUCH easier to get in to.

 

[halekulani]

ibanking?

 

[kevster2001]

ibanking?

ding ding ding ding

 

[Oculus Sinistra]

A dentist will probably make more than a physician and is MUCH easier to get in to.

Yeah, but the OP will still need at least at least a ~3.2 GPA to get into dental school, I think. Check the pre-dental forums.

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

ok i didnt know where to post this so i posted here since it has the most viewers...

i have a sub 3.0 gpa. from a good school. entering my senior year. so my options are limited but i wanted to know...

which career path (med school(+speciality), dentisty, pharm, grad school, etc) make the most money and fast? and its not super hard to get into. if your in it for money, where is it best to go?

thx

You'd be much better off in investment banking...I think you would surely regret this decision if you truly were only in it for the money.

 

[Law2Doc]

ok i didnt know where to post this so i posted here since it has the most viewers...

i have a sub 3.0 gpa. from a good school. entering my senior year. so my options are limited but i wanted to know...

which career path (med school(+speciality), dentisty, pharm, grad school, etc) make the most money and fast? and its not super hard to get into. if your in it for money, where is it best to go?

thx

A sub 3.0 isn't going to get you into any high salary degree program - you may need to be entrepreneurial and figure something more novel out. Otherwise, how good are you at sports? Can you throw a knuckleball?

 

[xylem29]

ibanking?

Dentists make more than a physician? That's can't be...is it?

I think med school, dentistry, law school, and business school would be out of the question - if by sub you mean below 3.0 - not impossible but it will be difficult for you to get into any of these without taking some more years to do grad school, or another undergrad.

I don't know what the requirements are for american pharmacy schools but in terms of tuition, debt, years in school, difficulty to get in, how fast you start earning the big $$, and potential earnings - pharmacy is the best choice to go. Can get into after 1 year of undergrad, all that's needed is 2.7 (believe me, that is the cut off - once u make it, your gpa doesn't matter) and is based on personality assessment test, do another 4 years in pharm school with 11k tuition per year and your good to go by 23 making 60-80k, more than 100k once you own your own pharmacy and even more as you get smarter with your investments etc.

 

[goldfish85]

for those suggesting ibanking, sorry i just was interested in something science/health related. also a professional degree.


dentistry sounds like a good option, maybe ill head over to their forum..

also for those who say 3.0 is not enough, you may be right. ill do a post bacc if i need to. also im GREAT with standardized test.

how long does it take to become a dentist? what kind of practice settings to they have? and earning potential?

 

[Law2Doc]

Dentists make more than a physician? That's can't be...is it?

Per hour they often do. Most dentists work pretty short weeks for nearly comparable salaries to physicians. I know quite a few who only work 4 days a week.

 

[goldfish85]

Per hour they often do. Most dentists work pretty short weeks for nearly comparable salaries to physicians. I know quite a few who only work 4 days a week.

tell me more.... 🙂


ps: how about pharmacist?

 

[Psycho Doctor]

it's really sad to read how someone is really into it that much just for the $$ and will just switch to dentistry like that; I guess I'm rather naive to think you should really want to do medicine (or dentistry) for more reasons than to make some quick easy money. very very sad.

 

[GoodDoctor]

A dentist will probably make more than a physician and is MUCH easier to get in to.

I'd never heard any thing like that, so I checked the US Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics. Here's the low-down:

Median annual earnings of salaried dentists were $129,920 in May 2004.
http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos072.htm#earnings

Physician: Family practice: $137,119 (under 2 yrs), $156,010 (over 2 years).
http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos074.htm#earnings

And Holy Crap! I'm going into Anestesiology... $321,686.

EDIT: Oh, you meant per hour. That makes more sense. 🙂

 

[goldfish85]

I'd never heard any thing like that, so I checked the US Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics. Here's the low-down:

Median annual earnings of salaried dentists were $129,920 in May 2004.
http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos072.htm#earnings

Physician: Family practice: $137,119 (under 2 yrs), $156,010 (over 2 years).
http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos074.htm#earnings

And Holy Crap! I'm going into Anestesiology... $321,686.

hmm maybe i should go to the carribean and do fp

however, do dentist have residencies?

 

[halekulani]

for those suggesting ibanking, sorry i just was interested in something science/health related. also a professional degree.


dentistry sounds like a good option, maybe ill head over to their forum..

also for those who say 3.0 is not enough, you may be right. ill do a post bacc if i need to. also im GREAT with standardized test.

how long does it take to become a dentist? what kind of practice settings to they have? and earning potential?

why a professional degree? you're in it for the money aren't you?

if you want a steady income in dentistry, do orthodontics. easy money and a steady flow of customers (children).

 

[star22]

hmm maybe i should go to the carribean and do fp

however, do dentist have residencies?

No residency for dentistry, unless you want to be an orthodontist or something.

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

it's really sad to read how someone is really into it that much just for the $$ and will just switch to dentistry like that; I guess I'm rather naive to think you should really want to do medicine (or dentistry) for more reasons than to make some quick easy money. very very sad.

Here's the really crazy thing...none of the options being looked at are all that quick or easy.

 

[goldfish85]

why a professional degree? you're in it for the money aren't you?

if you want a steady income in dentistry, do orthodontics. easy money and a steady flow of customers (children).

hmm

mods, can you move my thread to the dentisty form? (or i could just make a new one i guess)

 

[star22]

Here's the really crazy thing...none of the options being looked at are all that quick or easy.

What about real estate?

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

for those suggesting ibanking, sorry i just was interested in something science/health related. also a professional degree.


dentistry sounds like a good option, maybe ill head over to their forum..

also for those who say 3.0 is not enough, you may be right. ill do a post bacc if i need to. also im GREAT with standardized test.

how long does it take to become a dentist? what kind of practice settings to they have? and earning potential?

Why the professional degree? Status? You sound like a perfect candidate for medical device or pharmaceutical sales. You can make >$200,000 by selling orthopaedic devices - and you get to act as a consultant to the surgeons in the OR. Look into it.

 

[GoodDoctor]

hmm maybe i should go to the carribean and do fp

however, do dentist have residencies?

If your willing to go rural, some places in need of doctors allow you to skip a residency and start practicing straight out of Med School as a GP. And the govt will forgive your student loans if you stay ~5 years. But I'm talking WAY rural, like not even a 7-11.

 

[goldfish85]

If your willing to go rural, some places in need of doctors allow you to skip a residency and start practicing straight out of Med School as a GP. And the govt will forgive your student loans if you stay ~5 years. But I'm talking WAY rural, like not even a 7-11.

hahah that defeats the purpose.

 

[MedChic]

You'd be much better off in investment banking...I think you would surely regret this decision if you truly were only in it for the money.

heyyy you stole my motto!!!! 😡

 

[goldfish85]

ok to those who suggest i do something i like rather than for money:

i can go on and on about this. i really dont like doing ANYTHING for 30-40-whaterver hours a week. i value personal time most. i just want to get there, do my job, and get out. i dont want anything else. just a good job that earns a great salary. thats it.

sure some ppl want a job thats a lifestyle, that is part of their ego, identity, that makes life long friendships and thats fine. but that just not me.

 

[etf]

i mean, i don't see anything wrong with going into medicine for the money - although it's definitely not my motive (although i have considered it a factor), i know a lot of successful surgeons who have admitted to me that it was theirs. anyway, if you really do value personal time, then i can tell you things like medicine and banking aren't for you, because they involve grueling hours...

 

[xylem29]

ok to those who suggest i do something i like rather than for money:

i can go on and on about this. i really dont like doing ANYTHING for 30-40-whaterver hours a week. i value personal time most. i just want to get there, do my job, and get out. i dont want anything else. just a good job that earns a great salary. thats it.

sure some ppl want a job thats a lifestyle, that is part of their ego, identity, that makes life long friendships and thats fine. but that just not me.

understanble enough...seriously - try optometry.

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

heyyy you stole my motto!!!! 😡

Hey! You can't forget to eat well!!! Dig your avatar BTW...

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

ok to those who suggest i do something i like rather than for money:

i can go on and on about this. i really dont like doing ANYTHING for 30-40-whaterver hours a week. i value personal time most. i just want to get there, do my job, and get out. i dont want anything else. just a good job that earns a great salary. thats it.

sure some ppl want a job thats a lifestyle, that is part of their ego, identity, that makes life long friendships and thats fine. but that just not me.

There are lots of opportunities in business/sales that allow you to work out of the home these days...tends to give you more "personal" time & autonomy.

 

[MedChic]

Hey! You can't forget to eat well!!! Dig your avatar BTW...

ok fine, since you complimented my avatar i'll share the sig 😉

 

[kevster2001]

optometry or dental

 

[NonTradMed]

If you want to quick, easy money....I guess dentistry and pharmacy pays well for the amount of time spent in school and the lifestyle they provide. But the thing is, pharmacy students who make a lot of money tend to work in retail which can get really busy....the don't-have-time-to go-to-bathroom busy type of work. And dentists are successful because they are successful business people. If you go into a small town, dentistry can probably be relatively easy, but where I live, in a medium sized city, there's a dentist around every block and I doubt they are all making it rich. If you want to have a successful practice, you will need to work hard at it. Doctors have their residency before they can hit it big as well, and they also work long hours (depending on speciality). I suggest you shadow a few of these professions to see what you would like. Having worked a few years, working WILL consume a significant part of yuor life so you don't have to have a passion for it but you have to at least tolerate, if not enjoy, what you do. All of these professions you mentioned will require you to work hard at some point in your career to make the bucks. It's not just a matter of slipping by with passing grades and pulling $100k from now until retirement. And if you have a sub 3.0 GPA, it's unlikely you will get into any of these schools (except for carribean med schools) and highly probable that you will fail out of these professional schools. Remember, there's no hand holding in graduate school. They expect you to have learned proper studying habits back in college if not sooner.

 

[Oculus Sinistra]

tell me more.... 🙂
ps: how about pharmacist?

A couple things.

I have heard that pharmacy school is harder to get into than medical school, so you're probably not in a good position there. I haven't checked because I'm not interested in pharmacy, but that's what my pre-pharm friends tell me and I believe it.

Most people on the pre-MD/DO forums probably don't know much about the specific details of dentistry so your questions would be better for the Pre-dent forum. Some people suggested orthodontics ... my pre-dental friends say that Orthodontics is difficult to get into, but you can be a general dentist and do fine financially.

Based on your comments, medicine doesn't sound like it's up your alley. Think about it... with the exception of dermatology, most medical specialties that make a lot of money are surgical in nature and surgery takes a lot of time.

You want to just show up and get paid. Sorry, Paris Hilton already took that job.

 

[OMS1a]

If your willing to go rural, some places in need of doctors allow you to skip a residency and start practicing straight out of Med School as a GP. And the govt will forgive your student loans if you stay ~5 years. But I'm talking WAY rural, like not even a 7-11.

you still must complete the pgy1 year, and even at that, most places are really trying to phase out all GPs...

 

[xanthomondo]

dentistry sounds like a good option, maybe ill head over to their forum..

I don't get this, last September you made a post "Switching from premed to predent"
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=226423

but just now it seems like a good idea to check out denistry?

and the last three threads youve created have been "in it for the $$$" in pre-allo, pre-pharm, and pre-dental

before that there were two more created
how can i use medicine to get rich? in the Everyone forum and

for those of us who decide to pursue medicine for $$$ in pre-allo

some will disagree that its shallow to go into medicine for money, but your constant posting about it is ridiculous

 

[snobored18]

ok to those who suggest i do something i like rather than for money:

i can go on and on about this. i really dont like doing ANYTHING for 30-40-whaterver hours a week. i value personal time most. i just want to get there, do my job, and get out. i dont want anything else. just a good job that earns a great salary. thats it.

Professional school isn't for you then buddy...look very few professionals work less than 40 hours, most work quite a bit more especially when they are younger. Does medicine have lifestyle specialties...of course...those are also the hardest specialties out there and they all involve long, long hours and many years as a student, resident and fellow before you get to the point of having that more relaxed lifestyle and making the kind of money you are clearly after. Honestly, your best bet isn't in medicine, dentistry or law...you want a 9-5 job that pulls six figures without much extra work. You won't find it in medicine or science, unless you are working for a pharm company, or maybe something in the biotech sector. Look into sales jobs with some of the up and coming computer records firms out their like epic systems, pharm sales rep positions or hospital administration there is potential in some of those positions to make 6 figures in your mid to upper twenties without the ridiculously long hours it takes to become and remain a physician.

 

[goldfish85]

I don't get this, last September you made a post "Switching from premed to predent"
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=226423

but just now it seems like a good idea to check out denistry?

and the last three threads youve created have been "in it for the $$$" in pre-allo, pre-pharm, and pre-dental

before that there were two more created
how can i use medicine to get rich? in the Everyone forum and

for those of us who decide to pursue medicine for $$$ in pre-allo

some will disagree that its shallow to go into medicine for money, but your constant posting about it is ridiculous

i guess its constant posting but i dont even remember those threads lol. i guess roughly a year ago i was thinking the same. you know, i reallly am in it for the money. i just finally admitted it to myself i guess. but even if it is shallow, its just how i feel. no need for hard feeling. i dont want to offend anyone, just looking for help on which career path does that....

dentisty sounds like a good match. now, like i said previously, im not looking at other careers like sales, ibanking, etc. because of a few reasons. but thanks for everyones help.

 

[notdeadyet]

ibanking?

To get the dream salary everyone pictures ibanking to be, you need to have a great degree from a great school. Otherwise, you're just another chump in a suit. Sub 3.0 GPA, no contacts and no experience ain't gonna cut it.

 

[DrBowtie]

For 40 hours a week and big money just become a 419 scammer.

 

[NewKidin2block]

Why not apply for Graduate School? Biotechnology. My junior roommate have the same problem. But he try to do well on the GRE general and subject test. It's depend on what major are you in. Before you do I-banking like other SDNer tells you, consider whether you want to work 80-100 per week for next 3 years of your life. I don't think sub 3.0 gpa can get you into I-banking, maybe try to do a master and study really hard for it. I know one of my friends, he got 3.8 from Columbia applied math master, he applied to a lot of job, but only 2 jobs offer, both unrelated to his field of study. Check out the "career column" in the bookstore, or Vault Guide.

Best of love.

ok i didnt know where to post this so i posted here since it has the most viewers...

i have a sub 3.0 gpa. from a good school. entering my senior year. so my options are limited but i wanted to know...

which career path (med school(+speciality), dentisty, pharm, grad school, etc) make the most money and fast? and its not super hard to get into. if your in it for money, where is it best to go?

thx

 

[NewKidin2block]

Why not apply for Graduate School? Biotechnology. My junior roommate have the same problem. But he try to do well on the GRE general and subject test. It's depend on what major are you in. Before you do I-banking like other SDNer tells you, consider whether you want to work 80-100 per week for next 3 years of your life. I don't think sub 3.0 gpa can get you into I-banking, maybe try to do a master and study really hard for it. I know one of my friends, he got 3.8 from Columbia applied math master, he applied to a lot of job, but only 2 jobs offer, both unrelated to his field of study. Check out the "career column" in the bookstore, or Vault Guide.

Best of luck.

ok i didnt know where to post this so i posted here since it has the most viewers...

i have a sub 3.0 gpa. from a good school. entering my senior year. so my options are limited but i wanted to know...

which career path (med school(+speciality), dentisty, pharm, grad school, etc) make the most money and fast? and its not super hard to get into. if your in it for money, where is it best to go?

thx

 

[^=^]

..... if your in it for money, where is it best to go?

thx

That's how we roll, son 👍 😀

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

ok fine, since you complimented my avatar i'll share the sig 😉

Thanks! That's been my philosophy since my junior year of high school, I guess...hasn't let me down yet! 👍

 

[Law2Doc]

Why not apply for Graduate School? Biotechnology. My junior roommate have the same problem. But he try to do well on the GRE general and subject test. It's depend on what major are you in. Before you do I-banking like other SDNer tells you, consider whether you want to work 80-100 per week for next 3 years of your life. I don't think sub 3.0 gpa can get you into I-banking, maybe try to do a master and study really hard for it. I know one of my friends, he got 3.8 from Columbia applied math master, he applied to a lot of job, but only 2 jobs offer, both unrelated to his field of study. Check out the "career column" in the bookstore, or Vault Guide.

Best of luck.

Ibanking is moot. You don't get interviewed by an I bank with a sub 3.0 GPA. Nor will any professional school be an option.
If you want to make lots of money, don't have good grades, and don't want to work that hard, your options are really (1) invent something really cool, (2) marry someone wealthy, (3) Lottery, or (4) fall back on some innate talent you have that pays a lot. With regard to talent, the highest paid ones tend to be athletes, actors, writers and strippers. Hope you can do one of these well. Otherwise, welcome to the world of 9 to 5 working stiffs.

 

[Haemulon]

I just think its funny that someone is really posting here saying basically that they want to work as little as possible and get a large income so they can have personal time. I think you are on the wrong network completely friend. MD, DO, DDS, etc ... are all difficult and require real commitment and effort. Not to mention what may amount to huge debts accumulated in route. I think I can speculate about the reasoning behind the sub-3.0 GPA. 🙄

 

[Haemulon]

Is anyone else here made nervous by the prospect of needing to have dental work done by someone who doesn't like what they do and only shows up for the paycheck? I would worry about their committment to keeping up with the latest developments in the field, their commitment to quality patient care, their patience in making sure exams and treatments were done correctly and with focus (not while watching the clock to get home for personal time). Thats just me though.

 

[braluk]

how about a PA, they seem to only require two years of work to get there, and get to around 100K after working a few years. and they seem to be in high demand

 

[braluk]

Is anyone else here made nervous by the prospect of needing to have dental work done by someone who doesn't like what they do and only shows up for the paycheck? I would worry about their committment to keeping up with the latest developments in the field, their commitment to quality patient care, their patience in making sure exams and treatments were done correctly and with focus (not while watching the clock to get home for personal time). Thats just me though.

well thats why people who really dont want to show some sort of committment evident in their CVs and ECs tend to be weeded out earlier, especially in the medical field.

 

[Depakote]

If your willing to go rural, some places in need of doctors allow you to skip a residency and start practicing straight out of Med School as a GP. And the govt will forgive your student loans if you stay ~5 years. But I'm talking WAY rural, like not even a 7-11.

That's sort of scary. You're out in the middle of no where, fresh out of whatever rotation you just finished. You had 8 weeks of Family Practice in the middle of your 3rd year and suddenly you're responsible for the care of an entire county with no back-up?


Edit: And I for one think the OP should be a Pirate. Have you seen the loot those guys pillage?

 

[thesauce]

I have heard that pharmacy school is harder to get into than medical school

Hahahahahahaha! No...not at all. Pass the prereqs and you'll have no problem getting into pharm school.

 

[Chris127]

Hahahahahahaha! No...not at all. Pass the prereqs and you'll have no problem getting into pharm school.

I have heard this as well. People tell me its harder simply because there are fewer pharm schools than med schools.

Also, OP, maybe you could consider being a nurse? I am not sure of the academic requirements, but when I was volunteering in the ER, I ran into an EKG Tech there who mentioned he was going into nursing for 1) The money, and 2) The much improved lifestyle a nurse would have over a physician.