In-state Admission Stats

[Rebeki]

I have found the overall stats for admission to the schools I'm looking at applying to. However, I'm wondering if there is anyway to find out what the admission stats are for instate applicants.

I'm instate at Cornell and the overall stats make me somewhat of a longshot there and I'd like a better idea of how I compare to the instate applicants.

Thanks!

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[runnerDC]

I have found the overall stats for admission to the schools I'm looking at applying to. However, I'm wondering if there is anyway to find out what the admission stats are for instate applicants.

I'm instate at Cornell and the overall stats make me somewhat of a longshot there and I'd like a better idea of how I compare to the instate applicants.

Thanks!

The last page (pg 23) of this document should give you some idea of the number of NY, contract, and other applications rec'd by Cornell, as well as the number of slots they fill from those apps. What you don't know from this is how many they actually admit from each group.
FYI-in some vet school AVMA Self-Study reports (that schools have to put together at reaccredidation time), you will sometimes find a very detailed break-down of their admit stats, including the number they actually admit in order to fill a class of X. In the meantime, this should get you started:
http://www.career.cornell.edu/downloads/Prevet/vetguide.pdf

 

[seaturtlegirl]

Hi Rebeki! Welcome to another new yorker! I can fill you in on what myself and other new yorkers have experienced from cornell. From what my friends and I have gathered, cornell loves the super over achievers! (please no offense to anyone who got in! ) That is to say, that they want the grades, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Their supplemental application seems to imply that the more you have done, the better. They seem to appreciate applicants not only with diverse animal experience, but RESEARCH!!! I applied there myself, only because it is sorta close, and felt that I should. (needless to say, I didn't even make the waitlist) I didn't do too well on the GRE (1140), and I'm sure that didn't help! Still, I didn't even feel like I had a shot with a cumulative GPA of 3.7, last 40 credit 3.92, and overall science 3.9.

However, I think they really like to see a lot of experience - small animal, large, and again RESEARCH! Not to mention work with a specialist!

I hate to say it, but I never really felt like it mattered if I was in state or not, but maybe I'm just bitter!

There are some stats posted of those who did get in on this site somewhere, and they are impressive, to say the least! But, it is do-able! My advice: nail the GRE, and have as many LOR's on their supplemental as you can!

Good luck!

 

[Rebeki]

I check some of the previous postings but couldn't find any stats on people who were accepted to Cornell. I'm a little on the fence about whether or not to apply even though its my in state school.

Anyone who was accepted to Cornell want to volunteer their info? I'd really appreciate it.

 

[silverelf]

i went to CU for undergrad (was rejected for vet school)...i had a bunch of friends that applied, knew a few kids that got in and knew some that were rejected...basically the biggest problem with CU is that they don't do interviews. This means that some fantastic people are accepted...as well as some who don't really belong there (not talking about anyone on this board). They really want tons and tons of LORs, and they want them to be good. If you don't have research experience, your chances are probably slim...their program is pretty heavy on research. I have no idea where you went to undergrad, but if you went to CU, your chances are very good...often a 1/4 of the class comes from the undergrad college.

However, regardless of what your stats are and so forth, I'd apply there because of the in-state status. CU is more competative than most state schools, but you still have a great shot at getting in because the in-state pool is so much smaller, and if you do get in, you can't say no to the cheap tutition (at least compared to out-of-state at other schools)

 

[mkata]

I got into Cornell off of the alternate list.

My impression is that they want you to come from a good school. My undergrad is very good, however, my GPA is not a 3.9ish. I did well, and after talking to the director of admissions, I feel that is all she really wanted. My GRE is average for the incoming class. I did a lot of research both with veterinarians and researchers at my school and at The Jackson Labs. I also had very good quality veterinary experience at a local small animal clinic and at the MSU veterinary hospital. I had a lot of animal experience with horses kennel animals and some with wildlife. I had recs from every vet and from as many people as I could get from my research experiences. I also had a rec from one of my professors.

With the supplemental application, I felt that I was very honest about my life and my goals. I shared some very personal things. That may have made a difference. When I got put on the alternate list, I called Jennifer Mailey every couple weeks and sent a letter of purpose. And hey, I finally got the call!

 

[OSJ]

I don't know about other schools, but I tried to find the average stats for in state at Tufts and they didn't seem to want to give out that info! They said they don't calculate it individually.

 

[Moonpaw]

I actually just spoke to Jennifer Mailey a few days ago, and she may have (or almost definitely) toned things down for me, but she pretty much told me that research is a lot more important if you're applying to the DMV-PhD program. Then again, she also told me that it IS possible to get in without large animal experience, especially if you're from a place where it isn't terribly available.

I get the feeling she was really trying to just keept me from freaking out more than I already am, but she really emphasized Cornell's "admissions formula," which is definitely available on the website. This means that if you feel weak in one area, being strong in another area could make up for it. She didn't give me stats from just in-state applicants (GPA, GRE, etc) but in general, see how you measure up to the median stats of last year's admitted class. Being in-state for Cornell definitely makes it easier, as last year it was about 250 in-state applicants for about 50 seats, and maybe a total of 800-1000 applicants for a total of 80 seats--you do the math because it's late and I'm tired.

The other one really useful thing she told me is that they really look for depth of experience in at least one area, anywhere from 300-400 hours, and then breadth of experience, so about 100 hours in 3-5 other things.

And it only occurred to me now that by encouraging all you other New Yorkers to apply, I'm only making my own life harder...so yeah, all you other New Yorkers should just forget about Cornell...