Income as an Orofacial Pain Specialist

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Hey Everyone,

Are there any orofacial pain specialists here? Anyone know how much typically these folks make? Considering applying for this if endo doesn't work out for me...TIA! =)

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I just don't like the stress of constantly having to perform with a handpiece. I also find the physical aspect of general dentistry draining and hate almost all of the procedures aside from endo. I'd rather a more cerebral career, or minimal use of the handpiece.
 
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Most of the ones I know are in academics.
They get paid faculty salary. Usually they are combined residencies with oral medicine.
I’d be surprised if it paid well.

Honestly anyone that hates general dentistry/working with their hands should consider ortho or dental anesthesia. They both pay way better than orofacial pain and oral medicine.
 
I don't have the grades for ortho, hence why endo is such an uphill climb. And dental anesthesia does not pay too much better(maybe even worse?) than general dentistry from what I hear. During my GPR I met a DA resident and she was struggling to find work after graduation. I don't know if she ended up just working as a GP or if she ended up finding something as a traveling DA.
 
I don't have the grades for ortho, hence why endo is such an uphill climb. And dental anesthesia does not pay too much better(maybe even worse?) than general dentistry from what I hear. During my GPR I met a DA resident and she was struggling to find work after graduation. I don't know if she ended up just working as a GP or if she ended up finding something as a traveling DA.
Dental anesthesia definitely pays well
 
Path, rads, and DA all have much more defined paths than orofacial pain. Rads and DA also have plenty of private practice opportunities. I don't even know a single Orofacial pain dentist. My school didn't have one. Other than DA, if you do Rads, Path, or orofacial pain, your income will probably be lower than a general dentist.
 
Open the textbook oral and Maxillofacial pathology by Neville and Damm. Do you enjoy reading this from page to page ? If not then cross pathology off your list.
 
Are any of these paid residencies (oral path, radiology, orofacial pain)?

If not how much is the tuition ?
 
It’s my understanding that many OFP don’t have the volume to practice strictly OFP. So they work as GP’s with an OFP focus. They will still do TMJ work, appliances, burning mouth etc and this would be through referrals of course. You have to have enough of a referral base to limit yourself to only OFP. I think I’ve referred like only 1 or 2 for TMD. You will need a CBCT and you will have to learn to order and read MRI’s.
 
Hey Everyone,

Are there any orofacial pain specialists here? Anyone know how much typically these folks make? Considering applying for this if endo doesn't work out for me...TIA! =)

There is a guy on reddit who is OFP specialist.
He talks about it regularly, but mostly advising patients in the TMJ subreddit. He says that it actually pays well, some numbers he mentioned sounds even unrealistic and too generous, but all in all it seems to be actually a higher paying job than general dentist.
I am not OFP specialist btw, but searched it as I was applying (recently got rejected) for it and wanted to have some info about it, so take whatever I say with grain of salt and do your own research
 
Hey Everyone,

Are there any orofacial pain specialists here? Anyone know how much typically these folks make? Considering applying for this if endo doesn't work out for me...TIA! =)
You should find an OFP specialist near to you and shadow. Ask them about career opportunities and earning potential outside of academia. Attend the AAOP conference. I don't know anything about it but I would also look into oral radiology. That seems right up your alley.

If you're concerned about "performing with a handpiece," then you should think twice about endodontics. It's one of the most technique-sensitive specialties in dentistry.
 
honestly I’d do omfs and if I couldn’t get in, hands down it would be dental anesthesia.

This field has everything
-Lifestyle
-High salary
-Less abuse on the body over time
-Paid residency
-Low numbers in the workforce
-The feeling at the end of the day you played a huge role in their overall health, delivery of their essential care. You feel very important.
 
As far as OMFR I’ve never referred to one. From my understanding they go either into academia or GP and do something like beamreaders on the side. But you really need to know path to get into rads. I know you said you wanted something cerebral, but where do you think these specialists complex cases come from? The GP. You have plenty of opportunity to handle and control the complexity of your cases, and you can refer out what you’re not comfortable with to your specialist colleagues.

Remember that specializing is not necessarily the only path to wealth. Yes, many of them do very well financially, but remember the GP is usually the gatekeeper (except peds), you are the first stop. You can open a large office and employ the specialists to work for you. I worked at an office where they had a traveling OS come in every week and generate a ton of money because he would have the patients lined up for him. He would run his own iv sedation and take out thirds and place implants all day that I would later restore. On Fridays the endodontist would come and we had a microscope and a CBCT so she was all set to do her RCTs which I also would then restore.

This model benefited everyone because the specialists not only made bank, but they didn’t have the overhead of their own office and staff or worry about not having patients. The office benefited because those were high production days and we kept those specialty procedures in house. It benefited the patient because that office was a one stop shop for them. I’ve even had times when a patient would see me, need a specialty procedure, and get it done the same day because the specialist had a gap in their schedule. Then pt loves you.

You mentioned endo. Endo is very profitable in a GP office because the pt wants out of pain. They will pay. And if they can’t afford RCT they will beg you to take the tooth out, and that’s a procedure with zero overhead. If you can keep your schedule booked with RCT/BU/CRN, ext+bg, or implant placement and restoration you’re golden. The key is to have your schedule booked with these procedures consistently and not being used as a hygienist doing prophies and exams all day with an occasional Class II. If you can do this you will likely outearn all the OFP, path, and rads folks.

Sorry for the long post. My pt no-showed 🤦‍♂️
 
I just don't like the stress of constantly having to perform with a handpiece. I also find the physical aspect of general dentistry draining and hate almost all of the procedures aside from endo. I'd rather a more cerebral career, or minimal use of the handpiece.
Were you able to shadow any endodontists? They usually aren’t doing slam dunk cases. Doing endo (retreats, difficult teeth, calcified canals, mystified anatomy) is like doing micro general dentistry on steroids. Endodontists are usually holding a handpiece… even if it has a rotary file at the end of it. Retrieving STUFF in the canal totally involves the handpiece.

That being said, if you want cerebral, my local DA definitely makes a killing (more than a super GP), but they are an established group where there aren’t many DAs nearby, and it isn’t heavily populated. Think like… Bakersfield.
 
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I’ve never ever referred to orofacial pain specialist in my 15 years of practicing. So I’m gonna say the income is pretty crappy cuz no referalls=no money.
 
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