Intern Year

[futuremd16]

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Hello everyone,
I know most applicants choose either TY, prelim, or surgery as their PGY-1 year. The AAO site states the following: "The PGY-1 year must include direct patient care experience in fields such as emergency medicine, family medicine, internal medicine, neurology, obstetrics and gynecology, pediatrics, surgery, or a transitional year. "

The way that's worded makes it sound like one could do a whole year of EM, and that equates to doing a whole year of IM (prelim) or TY. So is that right? One can essentially do a year of FM or neurology for their PGY-1? How would you even begin to apply if there isn't a residency designed to do just 1 year of another specialty? I don't think you could state during an interview for neurology that you will only be there for 1 year. They would be losing a seat and down one resident the following year.

Any insight on this would be appreciated! Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

 

[Dave89]

Hello everyone,
I know most applicants choose either TY, prelim, or surgery as their PGY-1 year. The AAO site states the following: "The PGY-1 year must include direct patient care experience in fields such as emergency medicine, family medicine, internal medicine, neurology, obstetrics and gynecology, pediatrics, surgery, or a transitional year. "

The way that's worded makes it sound like one could do a whole year of EM, and that equates to doing a whole year of IM (prelim) or TY. So is that right? One can essentially do a year of FM or neurology for their PGY-1? How would you even begin to apply if there isn't a residency designed to do just 1 year of another specialty? I don't think you could state during an interview for neurology that you will only be there for 1 year. They would be losing a seat and down one resident the following year.

Any insight on this would be appreciated! Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Apart from IM and Surgery, the only field I know of in which it is possible to do an intern year (alone) is Peds.

IMO, trying to scam a FM or Neuro residency into taking you and then bailing is kind of scummy, a huge pain in the neck, and possibly risky.

 

[DrZeke]

Hello everyone,
I know most applicants choose either TY, prelim, or surgery as their PGY-1 year. The AAO site states the following: "The PGY-1 year must include direct patient care experience in fields such as emergency medicine, family medicine, internal medicine, neurology, obstetrics and gynecology, pediatrics, surgery, or a transitional year. "

The way that's worded makes it sound like one could do a whole year of EM, and that equates to doing a whole year of IM (prelim) or TY. So is that right? One can essentially do a year of FM or neurology for their PGY-1? How would you even begin to apply if there isn't a residency designed to do just 1 year of another specialty? I don't think you could state during an interview for neurology that you will only be there for 1 year. They would be losing a seat and down one resident the following year.

Any insight on this would be appreciated! Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

There are some instances where EM might work and they may be able to create an intern year for you, but usually you just need a really free transitional year with few inpatient months. I don't see the point in contacting your program director then contacting another program director and writing to the ACGME... It's a sure way to get noticed, but not for a great reason. Stick with peds, IM, surgery or TY.

You can't scam neuro... Neuro does an intern year like us...

 

[Slide]

Hello everyone,
I know most applicants choose either TY, prelim, or surgery as their PGY-1 year. The AAO site states the following: "The PGY-1 year must include direct patient care experience in fields such as emergency medicine, family medicine, internal medicine, neurology, obstetrics and gynecology, pediatrics, surgery, or a transitional year. "

The way that's worded makes it sound like one could do a whole year of EM, and that equates to doing a whole year of IM (prelim) or TY. So is that right? One can essentially do a year of FM or neurology for their PGY-1? How would you even begin to apply if there isn't a residency designed to do just 1 year of another specialty? I don't think you could state during an interview for neurology that you will only be there for 1 year. They would be losing a seat and down one resident the following year.

Any insight on this would be appreciated! Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Don't try to read for a loophole; the blanket statement made by the AAO is meant to cover intern year rotations in such fields. Most programs want you do stick to a TY, IM, surgery, or pediatric intern year. A one year EM year, though useful, would be similar to finding a one year neuro year. My opinion - find a cush TY program. The purpose of the intern year, other than to learn the field of medicine (when I mean medicine, I mean medicine as a general profession) in the trenches. That means admitting patients, learning to take responsibility and care of patients long-term, discovering how frustration the system can be, and other things you can only learn by working in the trenches. No reason to make it more difficult that it needs to be.

 

[futuremd16]

Appreciate your responses! I know that often times, residents switch specialties and wasn't sure how "the credits" were transferred. So I looked more into it. It could just be that they finished their residency and then applied into ophtho or already had done an intern year in IM, surgery, or peds. I'll stick to TY or prelim. Thanks y'all 🙂

 

[DrZeke]

Appreciate your responses! I know that often times, residents switch specialties and wasn't sure how "the credits" were transferred. So I looked more into it. It could just be that they finished their residency and then applied into ophtho or already had done an intern year in IM, surgery, or peds. I'll stick to TY or prelim. Thanks y'all 🙂

I'm confused. The way you post about this I have the feeling you yourself are confused. Prelim options = peds or IM or Surgery, or Ty. All others are unconventional and may cause trouble. Few people do peds.