International medical system

[deleted421268]

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have shadowed both a physician who went to med school here and physician who went med school in India. I think with international system they go med school straight from high school and start practicing at younger age after they done with residency. What you guys of international system vs here?

 

[starspells]

I always wondered...if you decided you wanted to be a physician later in life is it much harder to do in those countries where kids go to medical school straight out of high school? Or is it not that unusual/uncommon?

 

[deleted421268]

I always wondered...if you decided you wanted to be a physician later in life is it much harder to do in those countries where kids go to medical school straight out of high school? Or is it not that unusual/uncommon?

The doc I shadowed said the thing back than was deciding between if you wanted to go engineering or medicine

 

[LizzyM]

You can do that here if you go to a BA/MD or BS/MD program. It does require knowing that you want to do medicine at a younger age and it is less forgiving if you decide at an older age. Also, there is the belief that students are less "well rounded" because they complete few if any general education requirements meaning that they are perhaps trained but not educated.

The tide is going the same way for nursing (RN) which was once a 3 year hospital based program resulting in a diploma and is now a BSN as a minimum.

 

[deleted421268]

You can do that here if you go to a BA/MD or BS/MD program. It does require knowing that you want to do medicine at a younger age and it is less forgiving if you decide at an older age. Also, there is the belief that students are less "well rounded" because they complete few if any general education requirements meaning that they are perhaps trained but not educated.

The tide is going the same way for nursing (RN) which was once a 3 year hospital based program resulting in a diploma and is now a BSN as a minimum.

Comparing the admission acceptance rate and admissions to med school here vs those of international places. How do most ppl view international physicians as compared to physicians here?

 

[libertyyne]

You can do that here if you go to a BA/MD or BS/MD program. It does require knowing that you want to do medicine at a younger age and it is less forgiving if you decide at an older age. Also, there is the belief that students are less "well rounded" because they complete few if any general education requirements meaning that they are perhaps trained but not educated.

The tide is going the same way for nursing (RN) which was once a 3 year hospital based program resulting in a diploma and is now a BSN as a minimum.

On the flip side there are MD PC programs that reduce training to 3 years if you want to be a PCP. I feel like they should probably get rid of big breaks and compress the clinical years. But I have yet to go through the pressure cooker myself.

 

[doctorleospaceman]

I always felt like it was way too rushed in countries where they go to medical school straight from high school. Not only do I feel like I have built up a much stronger foundation of basic sciences (biology, chemistry, biochem etc) during undergrad that will allow me to succeed in medical school, but I also grew a lot as a person.
Could you knockout the medical school prereqs into ~2years? Sure. But I don't think you can squeeze the immense amount of personal growth and real world experiences you get from 4 years of undergrad into that time frame.

 

[LizzyM]

I always felt like it was way too rushed in countries where they go to medical school straight from high school. Not only do I feel like I have built up a much stronger foundation of basic sciences (biology, chemistry, biochem etc) during undergrad that will allow me to succeed in medical school, but I also grew a lot as a person.
Could you knockout the medical school prereqs into ~2years? Sure. But I don't think you can squeeze the immense amount of personal growth and real world experiences you get from 4 years of undergrad into that time frame.

BINGO!

I've seen a ton of transcripts from foreign medical grads in my role in graduate education and the first 2 years are the pre-reqs just like you have in college along with some physical education and political indoctrination. Then 2 years of anatomy, physiology, pathophysiology, pharmacology, etc followed by clinical rotations.

The personal growth and real world experiences are really what is lacking.

Comparing the admission acceptance rate and admissions to med school here vs those of international places. How do most ppl view international physicians as compared to physicians here?

I have a few colleagues on the medical school faculty who were foreign medical graduates in Egypt, South America, Europe, and Australia. With one exception, I'd trust them my family members.

 

[deleted421268]

I believe they are awarded MBBS after medical school and if they come here and do residency it is equivalent to an MD. Our system
Doesn't award MBBS we have either MD or DO. I don't think any other places have MD or DO system in place besides us? I feel MBBS is seen more seriously in those countries than here cause they adopt it.