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I know this has probably been asked a billion times, but I couldn't search for concrete stats. I was wondering what are the downsides/things to consider about the international schools (carrib's, china, uk)

they make it sound so enticing, saying the only problems are getting clinical experience in US (which most of these places say they'll set you up with clinical rotations in US medical colleges).

All I know are that there's issues getting residency. Does anyone know what specifically those issues are (or any other issues for that matter)? Also, if you know of a well developed thread on this, can u link me to that one? thx!
 
Stats on the 2010 match, includes IMG/FMG data: http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2010.pdf Enjoy!

From what I understand, there are a few issues.
First, the obvious: You are living in a foreign country. There are added hoops for you in the country you move to. Immigration for school has been, in my (undergrad) experience, less painful than it could be, but still is an added thorn in your side. Not to mention your cost of living can be or is entirely dependent on the strength of the US dollar, which is not something you think about domestically. (For example, my tuition just rose about $500 between semesters for no reason other than the dollar has been tanking.)
Second: Some countries favor, explicitly and/or overwhelmingly, med graduates who are citizens for their intern/residency equivalent positions. In this way, you have a decent chance of being passed over in not one, but two countries - one because you aren't a citizen despite having graduated from a school in that country, and one because while you are a citizen you didn't graduate in that country. That kind of risk can be a little scary.
Third: If you are looking into a competitive specialty, your chances seem to shoot down. Check out the stats in the PDF, I think there's some numbers that show that IMG/FMGs tend to have better luck matching to the less competitive specialties.
Fourth: I can only imagine the difficulties involved in going about the Match from overseas. The interviews make me nervous - imagine the costs of the flights, money-wise and GPA-wise (especially if you are in a school that is less-than-supportive of its students who are attempting a US match).
Fifth: There can be less support for Step 1. This seems to be highly variable, though.
Sixth: Possible language barrier. I noticed you listed China above, and while I haven't done much research into China's med schools, I would hate to put an added linguistic pressure on myself in addition to the usual med school pressure if the language of instruction wasn't my own, and if I would be using a language that I didn't know very very well in the clinical years.
Seventh: I know there can be some complications getting your degree to be recognized by the states, or there is additional licensing hoops. I don't know too much about this part.

Hope I've helped! I am a little new, so I don't know if I'm overstepping my bounds too much by pretending to know stuff about something I haven't done myself. (The PDF is good, though. 🙂 It's got bar graphs and everything. )

EDIT: Found more stats, that break down by both state and specialty. There is a column for both US IMGs and Non-US IMGs.
http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsbystate2010.pdf . And if you need more numbers on the Match: http://www.nrmp.org/data/index.html. The first PDF can be found here as well.
 
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Like I said, I didn't know too much about licensing/accreditation issues. The last bit in your post about the 80% match rate school not being included on the list does seem silly. 🙁

And when I was writing #2, I was thinking primarily of Ireland and the UK (one of the systems that the OP mentioned). These systems seem to heavily favor Irish and UK citizens (and PRs), respectively.

OP - Have you checked out the International forums here? I know there's a current thread about the US Match and Irish grads, I'm sure there's something applicable for the countries you're thinking of too. 🙂
 
All I know are that there's issues getting residency. Does anyone know what specifically those issues are (or any other issues for that matter)? Also, if you know of a well developed thread on this, can u link me to that one? thx!

Heavy bias against those trained elsewhere by residency directors and fellow residents. Foreign programs are believed to be lower in quality, and US MD/DO residents often dislike having IMG/FMGs in the program. When a program starts accepting more IMG/FMG's, fewer quality US MD/DO's end up applying. Therefore many residency directors prefer to keep IMG/FMG's to a minimum. A large majority of residency directors would choose a marginal US MD over an elite IMG/FMG.

Many IMG/FMGs are thus limited to the lower quality programs even within the lower competitive fields.

Sure there are exceptions to the above. There are exceptions to any rule.
 
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