International Vet degrees (BVS/BVM,etc)- honored equal to DVM in US???

[Siomai]

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of applying to both US and international vet schools. I am from New jersey who have no state school or WICHE contract with any vet school explaining my need to broaden my net.

Vet degrees from international AVMA accredited schools are not doctorate but baccalaureate degrees. Though acceptable and makes one eligible to take the NAVLE, I am wondering if it affects your job prospect here in the US particulary in research and academia who require a DVM degree on their postings making me question if they would honor BVS or BVM degrees obtained internationally?

I have read many useful insights here form vets who studied abroad and hope you could shed some light. Thank you in advance everyone. You are all kind to spend time to offer help.

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[SnowyRox]

Exactly the same.

I will not get a DVM from my us vet school but rather a VMD. And you can bet that will not hold me back!

 

[shortnsweet]

Well snowy, you're still getting a doctorate degree in the US-everyone just knows you went to Penn 😛.

To answer the OPs question, no, they are exactly the same. The fact that the school is AVMA accredited is what is important. Yes, people will ask you why you went there over a US school etc etc, but in all honesty, the letters will not hold you back from getting a job. When I come back with a BVMS, MRCVS, people will know I went to Glasgow, and that the quality of education is equal to that of US schools. I've also never seen a BVS or BVM, it is usually a mixture of BVMS or BVSci.

Fun fact...the USET head vet at the past 5 Olympics went to Dublin back in the 80s way before it was accredited. My point is, work hard wherever you go, network, and you will find a job.


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[devyn]

Well snowy, you're still getting a doctorate degree in the US-everyone just knows you went to Penn 😛.

To answer the OPs question, no, they are exactly the same. The fact that the school is AVMA accredited is what is important. Yes, people will ask you why you went there over a US school etc etc, but in all honesty, the letters will not hold you back from getting a job. When I come back with a BVMS, MRCVS, people will know I went to Glasgow, and that the quality of education is equal to that of US schools. I've also never seen a BVS or BVM, it is usually a mixture of BVMS or BVSci.

Fun fact...the USET head vet at the past 5 Olympics went to Dublin back in the 80s way before it was accredited. My point is, work hard wherever you go, network, and you will find a job.


I encourage you to use the search feature, as this topic has been discussed at length in other threads.

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I worked at a top specialty hospital back in Los Angeles prior to coming to Dublin for vet school and 3 of the vets there had degrees from schools outside of the US (Australia, New Zealand and somewhere in Europe), so the letters behind your name do not matter as long as the school is accredited and you do your part!

 

[Siomai]

I appreciate your responses. Being new to this forum and experiencing daily increase of anxiety as I complete my vet school apps, your feedback is crucial in finding the next step.

I apologize for the mistyped BVS or BVM, its is BVMS or BVSc.

Thank you again for the input and for guiding a newbie like me in the forum.

Ciao

 

[shortnsweet]

No apologies necessary. We are here to help! 🙂

 

[SnowyRox]

Well snowy, you're still getting a doctorate degree in the US-everyone just knows you went to Penn 😛..

Isn't that what I said 😕?

I just meant that a job offer specifically requesting a DVM degree will not discriminate if you have the same degree with different letters behind your name. The accredited international schools graduate you with the same education, even if it's structured differently and gives you different initials.

 

[PetPony]

Isn't that what I said 😕?

I just meant that a job offer specifically requesting a DVM degree will not discriminate if you have the same degree with different letters behind your name. The accredited international schools graduate you with the same education, even if it's structured differently and gives you different initials.

I think she meant because yours is still a doctorate degree and the others are not..

 

[shortnsweet]

I think she meant because yours is still a doctorate degree and the others are not..

 

[Siomai]

I think she meant because yours is still a doctorate degree and the others are not..

yes.. I was wondering about the difference between the doctorate and baccalaureate designations after one finishes a program. You go through same training and certifications but titles differ depending on school of attendance. for me, title doe snot matter..its how you always prove yourself once you get your foot in the door. Unfortunately, sometimes not having right letters after your name eliminates you off the bat particularly in computerized HR screening tools ( My first career was HR for ten years before I shifted to Vet). I am glad job opportunities are not limited due to difference in title as long as training was obtained from accredited school. Good news! =)

 

[SnowyRox]

I think she meant because yours is still a doctorate degree and the others are not..

Ah, I see.

SGU, Ross, & Murdoch (I think... it's one of the Australian schools) all give out the DVM degree if that's important. I will be interested to see if the other Australian schools also switch over to giving a DVM.

 

[sunshinevet]

Ah, I see.

SGU, Ross, & Murdoch (I think... it's one of the Australian schools) all give out the DVM degree if that's important. I will be interested to see if the other Australian schools also switch over to giving a DVM.

Melbourne does. I am vehemently opposed to Australian schools switching over to the DVM - Murdoch is meant to in a few years. Switching to the DVM is resulting in changes to our postgraduate degree structure that are niether needed or wanted. But thats a story for a different thread. 😉

 

[Tonkamoo]

Just one more post agreeing with posts above mostly. From what I've heard the foreign accredited degrees in the UK are high regarded especially if you are going into research and academia. So many text books and prominent research comes out of the schools that anyone in those fields will have heard of them.

Talking to "regular" vets, I spoke with one American who graduated from a non-accredited US vet school, and she said for the most part she has had no problems. She has worked as a relief vet for a while and said that every few years she'll find a practice whose hiring manager will not hire foreign grads, but they are few and far between.

I think working hard (and networking) is what makes the biggest difference in your job prospects.

 

[Lowenger]

Hi Siomai

When you apply keep in mind that there are two amazing fully accredited school in Canada, your friendly northern neighbour, that accepts US applicants into their vet school. There's the University of PEI and the University of Guelph.

I work for the University of Guelph, and we're about 90 minutes away from Buffalo NY. Check out our requirements at http://www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/future/dvm/, and our DVM curriculum is at http://www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/dvm/phases/.

If you're interested come for a visit or I can introduce you to one of our current students from your state to chat over email if you like.

Good luck!

Elizabeth Lowenger, MSc
Manager, Student Affairs
Dean's Office room 2639
Ontario Veterinary College
University of Guelph
411 Gordon Street
Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1

Tel: 519.824.4120 ex 54430