Internship and BST in Ireland

[DOKIka]

Hi,

I'm in my last year of medicine in Hungary, I'm graduating in June 2009.
This last year is actually an internship year(with certificate) where the medical degree is awarded only after finishing this year, not like in Ireland where you do your internship after the diploma.
Here in Hungary after the diploma i can directly apply for residency but very competitive.

I would like to do the basic surgical training in Dublin or other cities in Ireland.

my question is:
Do i have to do internship again to apply for the BST , or I can apply directly??

If yes; how can I apply for internship??do I have to contact directly the hospital??

Thank you in advance for your help

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[leorl]

you'll probably be able to apply for BST positions directly without irish internship. Contact the medical council re: temporary registration. www.medicalcouncil.ie

 

[DOKIka]

Thank you,
great website, great job

 

[leorl]

Yeah, good luck. it's definitely doable. Especially if you apply to the smaller hospitals. When I worked in Portiuncula Hospital, there were loads of BST SHOs from Sudan who were working without having ever gone through Irish internship.

 

[jacksonhole]

Hello,

I am a US citizen. I have not done an intern year yet. Am I eligible for an intern year in ireland? That is if there is one available. If not, can I complete my intern year here in the US and then apply to a residency position after taking the TRAS?

Is there a matching system for residency spots? Is pathology competitive? And! Can I work anywhere in the EU after completing an irish residency?

 

[blobby]

hey people i wanted to ask what are the chances of getting training posts(f1/f2 jops) in Ireland for international medical graduates?

What is the procedure for application?

hope you can help me

Thanx!

 

[mjohn1983]

Hi Blobby, certainly do-able, many thousands of docs from all over the world have done it. First visit the Irish Medical Council website or contact them directly to see if your qualifications are recognised. You didn't mention where you are from or what you intend to specialise in.

Once you know you are elegible to apply, you need to decide what job you want to go for. Do you want a training scheme (1-4 years depending on speciality) or a stand-alone 6 month post?
Training schemes are good because:
(a) You have a guarenteed job for the duration of the scheme, usually in the same part of the country (so less moving house)
(b) The educational components of the training are more organised
(c) Completing a training scheme is often more highly regarded than do-it-yourself posts.

What I mean by "do-it-yourself" posts is this: outside of formal taining schemes there are stand alone jobs, usually of 6 months duration, which are recognised for the purposes of training. You must search for these jobs yourself and interview for every six month part. What is not good about this way of doing it is - the jobs tend to be in specialities that are not tied up by schemes and in places that are not popular to live. For instance medical stand alones tend to be gen med or geriatrics in rural hospitals, or areas like medical and radiation oncology and haematology. As for surgical jobs, a lot of orthopaedics is advertised. Beware when applying for such posts - they are not all recognised by the approprite higher college for the purposes of training i.e. if you plan to use a certain post for the purpose of being elegible to sit a post grad exam, and the post is not recognised by the college holding the exam, you will not be able to partake.
So really, training schemes are best, but entry is quite competitive, and especially difficult for non-EU students who studied outside of the EU. That said, I heard the Cork Medical Scheme had to readvertise this year as they failed to fill all vacancies on their scheme, so you never know.

As for individual specialisms, check out the following organisations:

1. Medicine, Paediatrics and Histopathology - Royal College of Physicians in Ireland

2. Surgery - Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland

3. General Practice - Irish College of General Practicioners

4. Psychiatry - Irish College of Psychiatrists

You can also try www.careersinhealthcare.ie, which will tell you about any job vacancies as they arise.
Hope this helps.