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I'd like to know what kind of arrhythmia you guys have encountered? and how did you treat them? Do you try to convert to SR if the patient is hemodynamicaly stable?
dhb said:I'd like to know what kind of arrhythmia you guys have encountered? and how did you treat them? Do you try to convert to SR if the patient is hemodynamicaly stable?
2ndyear said:I had a junctional rhythm during a crani. Rate dropped pretty quickly to the 33-39 range. No p waves, but I didn't notice that at first. I had a triple lumen in and the CVP waveform on the screen. Instead of my nice a c v waves, I had one big old jump after the qrs on the EKG. Gave 0.2 of glyco, nothing, repeated it about 4 times, nothing. Atropine, up to 0.4 mg and still nothing. Ephedrine 20 mg, nothing. Called my attending. I sent out some stat labs and the Mag was low. Gave some mag, some calcium and the rhythm went back to sinus. Don't know if it was coincidental or not, but it didn't come back.
seattledoc said:I had over a screen-full of asystole in an 8 year old crani. The surgeon was washing out the debris from her cerebral ventricle at the end of the case and used very cold NS. I don't think this reflex has a name (does it?) but everybody in the room was speaking an octave higher for awhile
The rhythm improved to a sinus rhythm in the 20's, then some atropine improved it some more.
Gern Blansten said:TAP probes are standard on our carts, but it seems not very many other places. I talk with people about it and get a lot of blank stares. They are very useful, but can be very frustrating when the probe is difficult to position or when the battery is not functioning even though the indicator says it is.
Has anyone had the joy of attending a code on someone with an ICD and getting zapped unexpectedly as the ICD fires? I hate when that happens.
VentdependenT said:SVT: Adenosine/esmolol. Beware its not ventricular or youz could be in trouble with adenosine.
VentdependenT said:Brady: Glyco .2mg or Atropine 400mcg. Tell surgeon to stop pullen on whatever it is. If you go too low on your glyco or atropine you can get a PARADOXICAL bradycardia.
ReefTiger said:Great thread! I'll add some stuff. First off, I don't know what a TAP is, what it looks like or how to use it. Could someone explain it?
I had a roller coaster last night myself. Firstly, I hadn't run a GA case in 6 weeks so I was itching to do a simple hand washout on an otherwise healthy 43 y/o male s/p trauma from changing a tire.
Pt in room, preoxy, aspiration meds and pt BP was 175/105 with pulse 80-90s.
Stated he hurt, titrate some fent. Surgeons don't need paralysis, so I thought from the look of the hand (open and a disaster) it may be a moderately stimulating washout so my plan was to run him as deep as blood pressure tolerated.
RSI, intubated with 170 propofol, 140 sux, 100 lido, 100mcg fent. (50 prior to induction, 50 at induction). Post tube pressure still 150's/100s. Titrate in another 50 fent and crank up sevo with n2o.
Get the patient to about 1.7 MAC and then junctional rhythm at 50-51 seen. OK, just lighten him up. First pressure I see is 65/35!! @##%%
10 of ephedrine crank back sevo, increase IVF (pt likely dry as hell as he is trauma pt). No change with ephed. Control BP measurement same.
At this point I kept having this thought repeating in the back of my mind from Jensen's Audio Blue- "Most CA-3 residents did not recognize that most cases of intraop MI are preceeded by bradycardia. Most chose to further delay diagnosis and temporize with atropine/glyco rather than aggressively treat with epinephrine".
BUT, I didn't freak and grab the epi, as everything else was OK. I did give glyco, and he converted and just ran fluids in. He did fine.
In the end my theory was that this was a dry patient who was sympathetically driven, I removed his sympathetic maintenance, and had him too deep. I felt like I unnecessarily caused my own problem, but was nevertheless proud of myself for systematically assessing and correctly fixing the problem after 6 weeks off!!
Any comments or other stories/cases?
Anesthesia1979 said:in fact with early goal directed therapy paper, you are allowed to use pressor of choice after volume, transfusion with goals of mixed venous SVO2>70, maps>60 or whatever... but then you are supposed to go to dobutamine...
Idiopathic said:Is this right or did you mean to say dopamine?