is a 17 REALLY the average dat score?

[spoog74]

i know people tell me on and off that the scores on this site are really not the way it is with majority of the ppl but goodness people do REALLY well the way i see it, ( which i think is awesome) but at the same time i believe it puts people like me with 19 AA and 20TS in the dark LOL.

Did the average increase in 2011? It just seems impossible majority of dat takers are in the 17 AA range...

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[Dental2000]

The thing is...The ppl who do well are the ones posting their scores.
The people who dont do well, might not be too willing to post their scores
(after all its not something ur proud off)

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

There's a difference between average DAT score (17) and average incoming dental student DAT score (20).

In most cases, average score doesn't get you into dental school.

 

[UCF FINatic]

i know people tell me on and off that the scores on this site are really not the way it is with majority of the ppl but goodness people do REALLY well the way i see it, ( which i think is awesome) but at the same time i believe it puts people like me with 19 AA and 20TS in the dark LOL.

Did the average increase in 2011? It just seems impossible majority of dat takers are in the 17 AA range...

I got a 19 AA 19 TS 22 PAT and felt exactly the saw way as you. I felt like I couldn't hold a light to many people that post their scores on here. After talking to my schools Pre-Health advisor he told me I had great scores and should be able to get into Dental School somewhere, which was the point of taking the DAT. You will be fine, don't worry about it man 👍

 

[Cappi]

That's why about 10% get's accepted. Average acceptance is around 19/20

 

[UCF FINatic]

There's a difference between average DAT score (17) and average incoming dental student DAT score (20).

In most cases, average score doesn't get you into dental school.

The average incoming dental student DAT score is more closer to a 19.3ish or even lower, its definitely not a 20 though.

 

[spoog74]

I got a 19 AA 19 TS 22 PAT and felt exactly the saw way as you. I felt like I couldn't hold a light to many people that post their scores on here. After talking to my schools Pre-Health advisor he told me I had great scores and should be able to get into Dental School somewhere, which was the point of taking the DAT. You will be fine, don't worry about it man 👍

jeez man, i hope so. I studied so darn hard for the exam and i feel like there are geniuses around compared to me. ( im no genius but , sigh, lol. )

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

The average incoming dental student DAT score is more closer to a 19.3ish or even lower, its definitely not a 20 though.

Ok, it's 19-20. Rounding error.

 

[UCF FINatic]

jeez man, i hope so. I studied so darn hard for the exam and i feel like there are geniuses around compared to me. ( im no genius but , sigh, lol. )

I feel you. I studied for like 7-8 hours a day for about two straight months. This link should make you feel a little better, just try to make yourself as good an applicant as possible with your GPA's and everything else:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=810649

 

[gtk06]

my fingers are just crossed big time...
i got a 20PAT AA 18 TS 18 any shot?

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

Actually, the DAT averages have come down over the past two years. It was about 20 at most schools two years ago and now it's about 19 at most schools.

It can be attributed to a better economy which is the normal pattern for most graduate school programs (law school, business school, health professions).

The recurring pattern is economy slows down, people get laid off. They return to school (MBA) or change their careers (law school, health professions school) while the recent college grads can't find jobs and decide to apply to grad schools. This results in higher application numbers and higher quality in the applicant pool. Eventually the economy picks up, people find jobs and it's the reverse process.

 

[spoog74]

Actually, the DAT averages have come down over the past two years. It was about 20 at most schools two years ago and now it's about 19 at most schools.

It can be attributed to a better economy which is the normal pattern for most graduate school programs (law school, business school, health professions).

The recurring pattern is economy slows down, people get laid off. They return to school (MBA) or change their careers (law school, health professions school) while the recent college grads can't find jobs and decide to apply to grad schools. This results in higher application numbers and higher quality in the applicant pool. Eventually the economy picks up, people find jobs and it's the reverse process.

👍

 

[wired202808]

Actually, the DAT averages have come down over the past two years. It was about 20 at most schools two years ago and now it's about 19 at most schools.

It can be attributed to a better economy which is the normal pattern for most graduate school programs (law school, business school, health professions).

The recurring pattern is economy slows down, people get laid off. They return to school (MBA) or change their careers (law school, health professions school) while the recent college grads can't find jobs and decide to apply to grad schools. This results in higher application numbers and higher quality in the applicant pool. Eventually the economy picks up, people find jobs and it's the reverse process.

An average 19 is not applicable to most cases because an applicant doesnt apply to EVERY dental school, so the best way to know where to apply is to look at that schools average DAT and then apply. Looking at the whole pool doesnt make sense, since 1) you wont apply to every school and 2) some schools dont except any OOS

 

[herkulease]

I keep seeing posts like this and its the summer and application season. Some of you need to relax and not stress.

A lot of this is worry is based on limited data(SDN) and false assumptions. the ADEA and ADA provides a lot of data if you look to get you to see and no worry.

- only half the year has gone by. since 2000 there has been a upward trend of dat test takers from little over 7K to now likely over 14K. there was a slight dip in 2008. If there was some any increase in the average for ALL test takers from last year to this year its likely to be very small.

- In terms of applicants for there is about 12K applicants. only 13.1% had a AA score of 21+, 16.6% TS of 21+, lets say about 1600 applicants have both. in terms of enrolled students for the same time 22.9% for AA and 28.4% for TS with about 5K enrolled students, we'll do some nice estimate say 25% of the has these scores.

43.1% of enrolled students ranged from 19-20 for AA, and 38.2% for TS this is reflected that for 2009/2010 the average score for enrolled students for ALL schools in the US are
18.9 for AA
19.3 for PAT
19.1 for TS

that is a dip from 2007/2008 in terms of AA from 19.4 compared to the previous year its a small increase of .1 for AA and PAT. PAT scores have increased every year. since 05/06.

- There is roughly a 40% admission rate for ALL applicants. for 2010 it was 41.2% it is actually "easier" now than back in 2007 when it was merely 34% but not as easy as 1990 when it was whopping 72.4% admission rate.

- Age. seen it in the predent forum more than this forum but roughly 62% of the class is between 22 and 24. If you are this age you are NOT too old. only about 13% of the class are 28+

So in summary relax. If you've submitted your app, go do your secondaries. If you done those, get ahead in your classes if you have some in the fall. If you have nothing. Go work out or something its good for you. It is out of your hands now.

you can find the data here
http://www.adea.org/publications/tde/Pages/Students.aspx
and here
http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/survey_ed_vol2.pdf

1st link gives you trends.

2nd link provides you with detail data from each school. # of applications the get, their average scores. tuition, demographics etc.

 

[spoog74]

I keep seeing posts like this and its the summer and application season. Some of you need to relax and not stress.

A lot of this is worry is based on limited data(SDN) and false assumptions. the ADEA and ADA provides a lot of data if you look to get you to see and no worry.

- only half the year has gone by. since 2000 there has been a upward trend of dat test takers from little over 7K to now likely over 14K. there was a slight dip in 2008. If there was some any increase in the average for ALL test takers from last year to this year its likely to be very small.

- In terms of applicants for there is about 12K applicants. only 13.1% had a AA score of 21+, 16.6% TS of 21+, lets say about 1600 applicants have both. in terms of enrolled students for the same time 22.9% for AA and 28.4% for TS with about 5K enrolled students, we'll do some nice estimate say 25% of the has these scores.

43.1% of enrolled students ranged from 19-20 for AA, and 38.2% for TS this is reflected that for 2009/2010 the average score for enrolled students for ALL schools in the US are
18.9 for AA
19.3 for PAT
19.1 for TS

that is a dip from 2007/2008 in terms of AA from 19.4 compared to the previous year its a small increase of .1 for AA and PAT. PAT scores have increased every year. since 05/06.

- There is roughly a 40% admission rate for ALL applicants. for 2010 it was 41.2% it is actually "easier" now than back in 2007 when it was merely 34% but not as easy as 1990 when it was whopping 72.4% admission rate.

- Age. seen it in the predent forum more than this forum but roughly 62% of the class is between 22 and 24. If you are this age you are NOT too old. only about 13% of the class are 28+

So in summary relax. If you've submitted your app, go do your secondaries. If you done those, get ahead in your classes if you have some in the fall. If you have nothing. Go work out or something its good for you. It is out of your hands now.

you can find the data here
http://www.adea.org/publications/tde/Pages/Students.aspx
and here
http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/survey_ed_vol2.pdf

1st link gives you trends.

2nd link provides you with detail data from each school. # of applications the get, their average scores. tuition, demographics etc.

this info is pretty interesting if you consider all the scores that you see on these forums.

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

The problem is because AADSAS is so darn slow to process an application, many people have to submit before they take their DAT without knowing if they'll be in range for their applied schools. So as a result, people waste a lot of money that they could've saved (and this isn't even counting the double application fees you pay to AADSAS and the schools) and schools receive more applications than they should.

Darn AADSAS. You would think that with the thousands they collect from each applicant, they would hire enough manpower to handle the load.