Is EK bio really bad if you actually need to relearn materials?

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As I've been starting to study for MCAT, I got BR gen-chem, BR o-chem, BR physics , EK verabl and verbal 101 , and EK bio 1001 based on my research in this forum.
EK bio was recommanded as well, but many people said that it was for a person who know the stuff.
If it's been 3+ years since the last time I had a bio class, which book should be better ? "The Princeton Review Hyperlearning MCAT Biological Sciences Review" or "KAPLAN MCAT Biology"?
I got B from the most of those bio courses in undergrad. except few A, and I doubt that I'd still remember materials.

And, is KAPLAN onlince course really helpful in an addition to my self-study if I can afford it?
I got 2 friends who got into medical schools, and both of them recommanded it with self study over self study only or living class room.
 
Don't worry about needing to relearn the material. Most us had to relearn the material. It should come back once you get the rust off. You'll have those, "oh I remember this" moments.

About the Bio books, I'd still go with EK bio. However, if you want a detailed approach, TPR or BR would be fine. Make sure to get the TPR Hyperlearning Bio book and not the regular book you can get in a book store. The TPR science workbook is also worth checking out.

The main benefit, and probably the sole benefit, of the online course is the wealth of practice material. That said, you'll probably be fine with the books you're getting. Make sure to pick up some practice tests.
 
i found TPR to be too convoluted with crap. i found kaplan books to be good and concise bug often leaving things out. EK Bio happens to be awesome for the review. Though the passages don't really give me the feel of actual MCAT passages, they certainly reteach you everything you need to know, and they teach you a lot.
 
i found TPR to be too convoluted with crap. i found kaplan books to be good and concise bug often leaving things out. EK Bio happens to be awesome for the review. Though the passages don't really give me the feel of actual MCAT passages, they certainly reteach you everything you need to know, and they teach you a lot.

eK BIO is good, except for nervous system. They are flat out wrong in their explanation of the equilibrium potential. It angers me so much, because they say opposite of what is true. They say that the resting membrane potential is established when flow of Na+ and K+ are at or near equilibrium. First off, it's negative because the membrane is more permeable to K+ due to leak channels. K+ equilibrium is about -90. The cell membrane is around -70. So, neither K+ nor Na+ are at equilibrium. The concentrations are maintained by the Na+/K+ pump which itself contributes 8-9 mvs to resting, the rest is due to K+. Sorry, but my assumption is they said that so as not to confuse students. The reason the membrane goes to positive, is because upon depolarization permeability of Na+ is greater, and it goes towards Na+ equilbrium +58mv, but doesn't actually reach it because the Na+ are voltage closed and K+ leaks out. EK dropped the ball there.
 
eK BIO is good, except for nervous system. They are flat out wrong in their explanation of the equilibrium potential. It angers me so much, because they say opposite of what is true. They say that the resting membrane potential is established when flow of Na+ and K+ are at or near equilibrium. First off, it's negative because the membrane is more permeable to K+ due to leak channels. K+ equilibrium is about -90. The cell membrane is around -70. So, neither K+ nor Na+ are at equilibrium. The concentrations are maintained by the Na+/K+ pump which itself contributes 8-9 mvs to resting, the rest is due to K+. Sorry, but my assumption is they said that so as not to confuse students. The reason the membrane goes to positive, is because upon depolarization permeability of Na+ is greater, and it goes towards Na+ equilbrium +58mv, but doesn't actually reach it because the Na+ are voltage closed and K+ leaks out. EK dropped the ball there.

I can't recall the question at hand that you're talking about, but you're right in the sense of errors in books, and I think a lot of books have those types of issues. I remember doing a TPR example and for some reason I got stuck at one point in a circuits problem. And it took me hours until I realized that in fact the answer they had must have been mistyped. It pissed me right off because I was under the assumption that I was doing something wrong.

But even the AAMC has made fundamental mistakes. On AAMC 6, there's a question I think on the 2nd passage in regards to which to elements would form an ionic bond (CaI i think was the answer). I chose the correct answer according to the AAMC but when I went over it with my tutor, he pointed out that the answer is actually wrong because the differences in electronegativity made the bond actually covalent (less than 1.7 i think is covalent; anything over is representative of an ionic bond from what i recall).

Anyway, the prudent thing to do is crosscheck with other references.
 
I can't recall the question at hand that you're talking about, but you're right in the sense of errors in books, and I think a lot of books have those types of issues. I remember doing a TPR example and for some reason I got stuck at one point in a circuits problem. And it took me hours until I realized that in fact the answer they had must have been mistyped. It pissed me right off because I was under the assumption that I was doing something wrong.

But even the AAMC has made fundamental mistakes. On AAMC 6, there's a question I think on the 2nd passage in regards to which to elements would form an ionic bond (CaI i think was the answer). I chose the correct answer according to the AAMC but when I went over it with my tutor, he pointed out that the answer is actually wrong because the differences in electronegativity made the bond actually covalent (less than 1.7 i think is covalent; anything over is representative of an ionic bond from what i recall).

Anyway, the prudent thing to do is crosscheck with other references.

EK wrote:As the electrochemical gradient of Na+ becomes greater, the force pushing the Na+ back into the cell also increases. The rate at which Na+ passively diffuses back into the cell increases until it equals the rate at which it is being pumped out of the cell. The same thing happens for potassium. When all rates reach equilibrium, the inside of the membrane has a negative potential difference (voltage) compared to the outside. This potential difference is called the resting potential.

Well said. It was section 4-11. EK was right. They were alluding to the fact that the resting potential is when the active forces balance out the passive forces. This is correct, although they fail to mention that it is really K+ that largely determines the resting membrane potential as Na+ is largely impermeable. K+ and Na+ ARE NOT at equilibrium at THE RESTING MEMBRANE POTENTIAL, and the chemical gradients WOULD NOT be maintained. However, the pump INDIRECTLY COUNTERACTS the movements of these ions to maintain a constant concentration inside and outside, so net effect is EQUILIBRIUM.

I don't think of this in this manner as taught by my mathematically oriented neuro class, but it's also correct. I just think that they make a grave mistake in not noting that it is really K+ that determines it. From their explanation, it seems as though Na+ is important, when it's really not. Finally, for the standard concentrations, K+ leaks out and Na+ leaks in (SLIGHTLY), if this were to continue, the concentration gradients wouldn't be maintained. This is what determines 80% of resting membrane potential.

However, this potential wouldn't be maintained because the concentrations wouldn't be maintained, so the Na+/K+ Pump acts to balance out the diffusion of Na+ in and K+ out to maintain the gradient and in effect the membrane potential. I think TPR has the best explanation, because they point this out. All this depth isn't needed, however, EK could have pointed a few things out. Sodium pump contributes little to RMP, but without it, you wouldn't have the potential because the Na and K ions would diffuse towards equilibrium.
 
i found TPR to be too convoluted with crap. i found kaplan books to be good and concise bug often leaving things out. EK Bio happens to be awesome for the review. Though the passages don't really give me the feel of actual MCAT passages, they certainly reteach you everything you need to know, and they teach you a lot.

I also feel that EK is the strongest conceptually. What I would do is Memorize EK bio and then read Kaplan to fill in the gaps. TPR bio isn't bad, as long as you have the time, and DO NOT try to memorize it. YOu should follow along and get the general idea.
 
I also feel that EK is the strongest conceptually. What I would do is Memorize EK bio and then read Kaplan to fill in the gaps. TPR bio isn't bad, as long as you have the time, and DO NOT try to memorize it. YOu should follow along and get the general idea.

Have you tried memorizing Kaplan? Looks damn difficult 🙁
 
I also feel that EK is the strongest conceptually. What I would do is Memorize EK bio and then read Kaplan to fill in the gaps. TPR bio isn't bad, as long as you have the time, and DO NOT try to memorize it. YOu should follow along and get the general idea.

I've read through all of TPR bio once while taking notes and trying to understand the details. I was thinking about reading it a second time, cause when I try to recall some of the details that I read I don't remember everything.

Do you think it would just be better to move on to EK Bio and memorize it?
 
I've read through all of TPR bio once while taking notes and trying to understand the details. I was thinking about reading it a second time, cause when I try to recall some of the details that I read I don't remember everything.

Do you think it would just be better to move on to EK Bio and memorize it?

I would read EK once now. Seriously, you can do it in like 8-10 hours. Then go and read TPR a second time and doing corresponding passages in TPR science workbook or 101 bio passages. Active learning is important as the BS emphasizes critical reading skills.
 
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