Is It Necessary to do BOTH Foundation Years in the UK?

[Blitz2006]

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Hey,

So after my 5 year MBBS, lets say I don't get into a U.S resdiency I want, and decide to do Foundation Year 1. Then I get into a residency in the U.S I want after the 1st year, can I leave for U.S? Or do I have to complete Foundation Year 2?

Thanks.

 

[FionaS]

You can leave - though if you ever want to come back, may not be such a good idea!

You might want to look into seeing if you can get your first year in the US accredited as FY2 - it can be done, but they may not allow it since you'll effectively be repeating the house officer year.

But no problem leaving after FY1.

 

[VeerTheTIGuy]

imagine how hard it is to get a residency in the US for a FMG - now multiply that by...a lot. that's how hard it is for a non-EU citizen to get a Foundation Year in the UK.

that is how i understand it so far, and how it's always been explained to me. please correct me if i'm wrong. but if there are barely enough foundation jobs nowadays for EU-grads, are there really any left for non-EUs?

 

[Blitz2006]

imagine how hard it is to get a residency in the US for a FMG - now multiply that by...a lot. that's how hard it is for a non-EU citizen to get a Foundation Year in the UK.

that is how i understand it so far, and how it's always been explained to me. please correct me if i'm wrong. but if there are barely enough foundation jobs nowadays for EU-grads, are there really any left for non-EUs?

You're right, it is tough for Non-EUs. One minor detail I forgot to include is that I'm a British citizen, so I'll be considered an EU grad. So hopefully I can find a spot for Foundation Year 1.

 

[VeerTheTIGuy]

You're right, it is tough for Non-EUs. One minor detail I forgot to include is that I'm a British citizen, so I'll be considered an EU grad. So hopefully I can find a spot for Foundation Year 1.

assuming 'the system' is fixed by then😛 (which everyone is telling us it will be...)

 

[FionaS]

Heh. Fingers crossed.

I get the joy of going into whatever the new incarnation of MTAS is next year for my specialty training.

I am NOT looking forwards to it. Especially since I've had a relatively painless experience for my foundation years.

 

[samsung]

Is there any way to continue training in UK if you graduate from their med schools?

And do you guys think it'll get any better in like 5 or 6 years?

 

[FionaS]

Oh, it'll be a completely different system in 5-6 years - virtually guaranteed. They've made such a cock up of it these past 2 years, they pretty much have to change it... I hope!

If you graduate from a UK med school and are an EU citizen, you're fine. Unless the government expands training numbers though, there will shortly be more graduates than there are jobs - not something that was ever a problem before.

 

[13538]

Unless the government expands training numbers though, there will shortly be more graduates than there are jobs - not something that was ever a problem before.

Exactly the same is happening in Ireland with the government funding the new 4 year graduate courses... This year between Trinity and UCD 32 graduates did not get intern positions. Albeit they were non-EU citizens but this is the first year that this has happened.

 

[dupuytren]

from what i understand, as a british graduate u are eligible to do your foundation here regardless if u are an EU citizen or not, but after foundation it's hard to go further if u are non EU. i am in final yr at cambridge but i hate this system and i am thinking about doing a phd in USA and work there later. really dont like the MTAS system its just rubbish!!!!!