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Do u guys think its unethical to use live patients during the boards.....no other professional school uses real patients except dentistry....do u think that is unethical?
Do u guys think its unethical to use live patients during the boards.....no other professional school uses real patients except dentistry....do u think that is unethical?
lol, yes its ethical, its training, you cant compare to med training, it ethical that my psyc i am seeing now is a PGYII and hence only a student himself and I am his live subject, I am ok with it, its way cheaper then the experienced ones. Look, the only way you can learn dentistry is on patients, what else you going to do, use dogs? And the worse case senerio, you screw up a filling or something, patient doesnt die. also you are being watched and monitered.wow. you're amazing.
so you what's your opinion on the YEARS treatment a student will provide while in school... is that ethical?
you make no sense.
wow. you're amazing.
so you what's your opinion on the YEARS treatment a student will provide while in school... is that ethical?
you make no sense.
This is actually a legitimate debate the predent has raised; and in-fact is being debated currently on a national level. The question has nothing to do with the fact the we are dental students and are in effect practicing, but has to do with the fact that treatment is often delayed on these board patients in order to have a perfect class II lesion to treat or the right amount of calculus. Normally a patient comes in needing treatment and we get on it right away, but as graduation nears students will search for patients with certain requirements and ask them to wait on treatment so they can be a boards patients, promising them free treatment and often a monetary reward, in the meantime their condition worsens. This is just one of the reasons why some are pushing for a mandatory PGY-1 (post graduate year one) or 5th year in dental school. New York has instituted this in lieu of board certification. Just something to think about.
and you do?
This is actually a legitimate debate the predent has raised; and in-fact is being debated currently on a national level. The question has nothing to do with the fact the we are dental students and are in effect practicing, but has to do with the fact that treatment is often delayed on these board patients in order to have a perfect class II lesion to treat or the right amount of calculus. Normally a patient comes in needing treatment and we get on it right away, but as graduation nears students will search for patients with certain requirements and ask them to wait on treatment so they can be a boards patients, promising them free treatment and often a monetary reward, in the meantime their condition worsens. This is just one of the reasons why some are pushing for a mandatory PGY-1 (post graduate year one) or 5th year in dental school. New York has instituted this in lieu of board certification. Just something to think about.
It's a little hard to infer directly what the OP is trying to ask... Maybe you could rephrase your question a little better.
On another note, what patient in their right mind would consent to a delay in treatment for months/year just because the student dentist wants to use them for their board exam? Delaying treatment for a patient is always unethical, unless the patient won't pay or is medically compromised such as to hinder treatment. Yet, it happens every year all across the country. Ideal lesions don't fall on ones lap exactly around the time board exams are to take place.
It's a little hard to infer directly what the OP is trying to ask... Maybe you could rephrase your question a little better.
On another note, what patient in their right mind would consent to a delay in treatment for months/year just because the student dentist wants to use them for their board exam? Delaying treatment for a patient is always unethical, unless the patient won't pay or is medically compromised such as to hinder treatment. Yet, it happens every year all across the country. Ideal lesions don't fall on ones lap exactly around the time board exams are to take place.
How often do you find what you need? And how long is the average wait? Do students compete over getting the patient for their boards, and what happens if/when the patient is a no-show? I've heard that is why students often offer to compensate the patient passed the cost of the treatment.