Is Osteopathy science?

[OrdinaryDO]

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quoted for posterity's sake
explain how, based on the context of this post, you meant that it is the general public who "covets" OMM education.

quite frankly I don't think I am going to take the time to teach someone like you to read between the lines. Educate yourself. Good-bye now.

 

[genericpremedstudent]

quite frankly I don't think I am going to take the time to teach someone like you to read between the lines. Educate yourself. Good-bye now.

there aren't any lines to read between. your post was explicitly in the context of MD vs DO education. there is zero mention of what kind of education that laypersons desire. you were told that you're wrong, and instead of just taking it on the chin like any respectable person, you try to spin it into something completely different.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

there aren't any lines to read between. your post was explicitly in the context of MD vs DO education. there is zero mention of what kind of education that laypersons desire. you were told that you're wrong, and instead of just taking it on the chin like any respectable person, you try to spin it into something completely different.

No, my post wasn't strictly MD vs DO. In fact, the only reason why I posted that was to support the mention of how A.T. Still had to change his curriculum to MATCH the MD program in order to move forward with establishing an official school. Not every single thing in that paragraph is comparing and contrasting. Believe me, I wrote it.

 

[genericpremedstudent]

No, my post wasn't strictly MD vs DO. In fact, the only reason why I posted that was to support the mention of how A.T. Still had to change his curriculum to MATCH the MD program in order to move forward with establishing an official school. Not every single thing in that paragraph is comparing and contrasting. Believe me, I wrote it.

if you honestly believe that you are correct, i highly recommend you take a writing class. There are two sentences that i quoted which are directly about comparing MD to DO education. One of those sentences is the one with the misuse of "covet." normally i would believe it was an honest mistake on your part. but when several people brought it up, you became extremely defensive and just started digging yourself a bigger hole. you should learn to practice a little humility. you can't be right 100%, no matter how much revisionism you attempt.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

if you honestly believe that you are correct, i highly recommend you take a writing class. There are two sentences that i quoted which are directly about comparing MD to DO education. One of those sentences is the one with the misuse of "covet." normally i would believe it was an honest mistake on your part. but when several people brought it up, you became extremely defensive and just started digging yourself a bigger hole. you should learn to practice a little humility. you can't be right 100%, no matter how much revisionism you attempt.

Okay, I have no reason why I am arguing with some 31-32 year old man about one single word. To be honest, you should have never even brought this back up. It was dead and gone, not to mention you hijacked a thread just to try and prove a point in which you are wrong. Let me spell it out for you.

If you want to know about Osteopathic Medicine from the very beginning and how it has proven itself since then; read "The DOs: Osteopathic Medicine in America."

This is a little off topic, but in relation to this book I wanted to point out some of the irony within the conversation of "D.O. vs M.D."
Almost everyone in the medical community can agree that D.O. and M.D. schools offer the same curriculum. In some cases, Osteopathic schools offer even more science based labs and classes and yes, Osteopathic medical schools also have the coveted OMM lab in addition to all of the other courses involved. What was eye opening to me, though, was the fact that D.O. schools and M.D. schools have been practicing the same classroom techniques since the beginning of the first "official" school of Osteopathic medicine in Kirksville.

The first bold statement is to show you that MD and DO schools share the same curriculum, as you would have read from the excerpt I posted underneath it.
The second bold line is where you seem to have to most trouble understanding that there is no direct correlation to MD and the "coveted OMM lab." Just because it is mentioned in the same paragraph does not mean it is a direct compare and contrast. The word COVET means "desire." I will restate the sentence here just so you can read it on the screen. Osteopathic medical schools also have the desired OMM lab in addition to all of the other courses involved. How do you not see this? Now, if in fact my post read "Osteopathic medical schools also have the coveted OMM lab as opposed to MD curriculum." Then, and only then, could I see where you are coming from.

If you can't follow this explanation I have laid out for you, then I feel as if my purpose here is meaningless. In the meantime, have fun chatting it up.

P.S. - I took it upon my self, out of pure curiosity, to read some of your posts on this forum. You know, I now realize that you don't just ridicule me, you ridicule others as well.

Some of your previous posts that I ran into with just 5 minutes of scroll through. Not bad.

"god, i hate when people realize they posted something *****ic and go back and delete it."
"Just came here to post how glad I am that OP finally got banned"
"I'm struggling to see how your analogy is relevant. (seems you had trouble here, too?)"
"Your piss-poor analogy of being on top of the hill is over one measly year in undergrad. Don't blow it by being stupid. (Wow!)"

 

[genericpremedstudent]

I'm flattered that you took the time out of your busy saturday evening to lurk through my post history, especially after you called me creepy. Irony is a hell of a thing.

"In some cases, Osteopathic schools offer even more science based labs and classes and yes, Osteopathic medical schools also have the coveted OMM lab in addition to all of the other courses involved." ok lets break down this quote. The word "more" indicates that you believe DO schools offer a significant amount of science based labs and classes than MD schools, seeing as that is the context that you set up. Now, the fact that you address these somehow "coveted" OMM labs in the same exact sentence that compared MD vs DO curriculum indicates that you are still comparing the two. you are still confused on the definition of "covet." Covet doesn't mean "desire." As I stated above, it means to desire something that you do not have in a wrongful manner. And none of that even matters, because you claim it is in a context that was never mentioned (laypersons wanting to learn OMM for some reason).

I'm obviously not the only person who sees it this way. I wish you luck on your application essays, you'll need it.

 

[pageantry]

This thread has gone to hell, but the question, from my perspective, needs to be turned back on the questioner. What do you accept as "science"?

There was a great study that has been passed around a lot describing the importance of physical touch in babies' development. Was that science?

Alternatively, I personally know (and this is not uncommon) several Chinese immigrants who have described having zero success combatting cancer with western techniques, but were able to stabilize using Traditional Chinese Medicine.

Medicine is not a science stick with which you beat illness to death. It's called an art for a reason. Hell, science is not a science stick.

 

[Monkitty]

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Medicine is not a science stick with which you beat illness to death. [...]

Someone please make a t-shirt of this.

 

[NontradCA]

If you think voodoo is science, then sure.

 

[AlteredScale]

Let's keep it professional guys.