Is Road2MD a scam?

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Hi guys,

I recently signed up for this free consultation from this online premed consulting company from Road2MD (road2md.com) and I'm wondering if any of you have used this company before and your experiences with it. It seems a bit fishy to me for several reasons and I'm not sure if I can trust the advice I have been given from my consultation.

1) He says he got an MD from UCSF, was on the admissions committee, completed surgery internship and then started working for a biomedical start-up company (which I'm guessing is this consulting firm). However, I did not find him on any residents face page. It doesn't make sense to go through the hassle of getting an MD and then quit in the middle of residency after all that hard work to work with a business and not continue your training. I'm thinking something must have gone wrong (having your license suspended, getting kicked out of residency)

2) There are no set prices listed for various services listed on the website or a place to sign up for a consultation.

3) He put up a testimonial from a "customer" and it feels like the guy was made to testify on his behalf.

4) The guys seems too available to be a physician

5) He seems to be the only one doing all the work even though he put down the name of a partner

6) I was on hold at several UC schools for interviews and I explained they don't accept update letters. He said I should give them a phone call, be super nice, try to get them to like me, and express my sincere interest in the school to get off the waitlist. I guess that makes sense since it's not technically an update letter. I said the person answering the phone is not an admissions officer, so how can they influence the process? He said the people working there have a greater influence than I think and there are people who drop out from interviews. I'm not sure if this actually works b/c that is not how the admissions process is supposed to be. Applicants have priority scores, so any vacancies are filled by the next highest scores, not based the whims of one's emotions. I feel it's equivalent to standing in a long time of people and asking to bypass your turn and be put in the front of the line when others have been waiting patiently. What do you you guys think?

7) I also said I got a 25 and then a 32 on my 2 MCAT attempts and I asked him if he suggests I take a 3rd time to be competitive for the top 20 schools. He said no b/c taking more than 2x is frowned upon. I asked why and he said it looks like you don't care about people and you just want to get into the best school you can. But I see a reason to take it another time b/c I'm not doing well this cycle.

So I'm not sure who to believe. I found this guy on SDN and while there are a lot of good advice here, everything should be taken with a grain of salt, and I'm sure there are people out there who claim to be admissions officers who may not actually be what they seem. Please let me know what you guys think.


Thanks, PP
 
the only thing you might need paid external help for is proofing your primary/secondary essays and possibly MCAT study. everything else either you can do youself with a good premed advisor at a university or SDN.

number 6: it is every non-profit med school's mission to make sure admission is as fair as possible.
number 7: taking MCAT more than once is bad, but his rationale is absurd. more MCAT taken = less empathy? seriously? you just need to make sure you perform notably better than the last time, which you have.

don't talk to this guy again unless you are SO incredibly lazy that you want someone else to plan everything for you for an exorbitant fee.
 
Uh use your common sense here. Gotta have some of that by the time you're a physician.

Regarding #7: I too would not recommend you retake a 32 unless it's very unbalanced. You'd need to get a 35+ for it to be any improvement and if you get anything 33 or less it will look worse than what you currently have.
 
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1. If you know the state he is licensed in you can probably check online with the state licensing board that he is in good standing. It might even list his med school and year of licensure, etc.
2. I don't think telling someone not to retake a 32 is particularly bad advice, unless you are consistently scoring much higher on practice tests. That's already a big improvement from your first attempt.
3. From what you've written his advice isn't wrong. Just not worth the money. You could get the answers to these and other questions here on SDN for free.
 
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If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Your radar is already going off. Listen to it!


Hi guys,

I recently signed up for this free consultation from this online premed consulting company from Road2MD (road2md.com) and I'm wondering if any of you have used this company before and your experiences with it. It seems a bit fishy to me for several reasons and I'm not sure if I can trust the advice I have been given from my consultation.

1) He says he got an MD from UCSF, was on the admissions committee, completed surgery internship and then started working for a biomedical start-up company (which I'm guessing is this consulting firm). However, I did not find him on any residents face page. It doesn't make sense to go through the hassle of getting an MD and then quit in the middle of residency after all that hard work to work with a business and not continue your training. I'm thinking something must have gone wrong (having your license suspended, getting kicked out of residency)

2) There are no set prices listed for various services listed on the website or a place to sign up for a consultation.

3) He put up a testimonial from a "customer" and it feels like the guy was made to testify on his behalf.

4) The guys seems too available to be a physician

5) He seems to be the only one doing all the work even though he put down the name of a partner

6) I was on hold at several UC schools for interviews and I explained they don't accept update letters. He said I should give them a phone call, be super nice, try to get them to like me, and express my sincere interest in the school to get off the waitlist. I guess that makes sense since it's not technically an update letter. I said the person answering the phone is not an admissions officer, so how can they influence the process? He said the people working there have a greater influence than I think and there are people who drop out from interviews. I'm not sure if this actually works b/c that is not how the admissions process is supposed to be. Applicants have priority scores, so any vacancies are filled by the next highest scores, not based the whims of one's emotions. I feel it's equivalent to standing in a long time of people and asking to bypass your turn and be put in the front of the line when others have been waiting patiently. What do you you guys think?

7) I also said I got a 25 and then a 32 on my 2 MCAT attempts and I asked him if he suggests I take a 3rd time to be competitive for the top 20 schools. He said no b/c taking more than 2x is frowned upon. I asked why and he said it looks like you don't care about people and you just want to get into the best school you can. But I see a reason to take it another time b/c I'm not doing well this cycle.

So I'm not sure who to believe. I found this guy on SDN and while there are a lot of good advice here, everything should be taken with a grain of salt, and I'm sure there are people out there who claim to be admissions officers who may not actually be what they seem. Please let me know what you guys think.


Thanks, PP
 
I just got a reminder email from him reminding me about my crappy MCAT score and letting me know to contact him to get assistance getting off the interview hold list.....
 
If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Your radar is already going off. Listen to it!

I like the way you put it haha. It's like on Facebook where everyone posts pictures of their "perfect" lives until you call them and realize it isn't the case te he he. There are enough inconsistencies that I don't trust him advice anymore regardless of whether he has an MD. My mom was like "You should just ignore him." I also have a premed advisor.....why not use him for free?
 
One can get plenty of good free advice on SDN, but make sure to wade past the hyper-neuroticism and angst.


I like the way you put it haha. It's like on Facebook where everyone posts pictures of their "perfect" lives until you call them and realize it isn't the case te he he. There are enough inconsistencies that I don't trust him advice anymore regardless of whether he has an MD. My mom was like "You should just ignore him." I also have a premed advisor.....why not use him for free?
 
Uh use your common sense here. Gotta have some of that by the time you're a physician.

Regarding #7: I too would not recommend you retake a 32 unless it's very unbalanced. You'd need to get a 35+ for it to be any improvement and if you get anything 33 or less it will look worse than what you currently have.

I totally agree with you that re-taking would be a risk. My score is however unbalanced: bio/biochem (127 77%), CARS, (125 55%), chem/phys (129 93%), psych/soc (130, 97%). You think I should retake?
 
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I totally agree with you that re-taking would be a risk. My score is however unbalanced: bio/biochem (127 77%), CARS, (125 55%), chem/phys (129 93%), psych/soc (130, 97%). You think I should retake?
No. My score was even more unbalanced (around 90%+ in 3 sections with a 124 in CARS) and I ended up with a full-tuition scholarship to my favorite school. Your MCAT is fine.
 
One can get plenty of good free advice on SDN, but make sure to wade past the hyper-neuroticism and angst.

Totally agree with you. Like everything else, advice on SDN should be taken with a grain of salt. Do you recommend me retaking the MCAT a 3rd time to be more competitive at a top 20 school? My score is a 32 on the old scale and fairly unbalanced. I'm not doing well this cycle. I figured if I was doing well this cycle, I wouldn't need to retake, but since I'm not, there is everything reason to retake since it is the most obvious weakness in my application. I just don't want it to be viewed negatively by admissions committees for taking taking it more than twice. Every school I called said they take the best score, so I'm not sure...
 
No. My score was even more unbalanced (around 90%+ in 3 sections with a 124 in CARS) and I ended up with a full-tuition scholarship to my favorite school. Your MCAT is fine.

Which school is it? I guess the thing is, my MCAT score is competitive for the majority of MD schools, but I'm interested in a research-oriented career and the top 20 schools tend to have the best research environment and I'm debating whether I should retake for these schools...
 
Which school is it? I guess the thing is, my MCAT score is competitive for the majority of MD schools, but I'm interested in a research-oriented career and the top 20 schools tend to have the best research environment and I'm debating whether I should retake for these schools...
Well, your composite score is low for top 20, so it'll hold you back but not necessarily because it's unbalanced. Even still, I would not recommend retaking. If you've taken it twice and haven't broken 32, you should apply with what you have. There are plenty of great schools that will take you with that score.
 
No. My score was even more unbalanced (around 90%+ in 3 sections with a 124 in CARS) and I ended up with a full-tuition scholarship to my favorite school. Your MCAT is fine.
I didn't know DO schools gave scholarships
 
I'm not a fan of retakes with your track record. The 25-> 32 is very admirable, but most people either hit a plateau or even go down slightly. If you go to a 34, you're still 2-3 MCAT points below the median for the top schools, and a 3x take to boot. Gyngyn's school wouldn't give you the time of day. And we don't even know your GPAs! Keep in mind that 3.7 is the median nationwide for acceptees; for the top schools it's 3.9.

Here' my list. as you can see, there are some research powerhouses there, and even the more modest schools have decent research programs (at least in my field).


U VM
Duke (maybe)
Case (maybe)
Mayo (maybe)
Miami
St. Louis
Albany
Albert Einstein
Rochester
Rush
Rosy Franklin
BU
Hofstra
NYMC
VCU
EVMS
Wake Forest
Jefferson
Temple
Drexel
Creighton
George Washington
Emory
USC/Keck
Tulane
Dartmouth
Loyola
Any new MD school. Skip Central MI and the three new FL schools. I can't recommend CNU.
Your state school(s).
Any DO program




Totally agree with you. Like everything else, advice on SDN should be taken with a grain of salt. Do you recommend me retaking the MCAT a 3rd time to be more competitive at a top 20 school? My score is a 32 on the old scale and fairly unbalanced. I'm not doing well this cycle. I figured if I was doing well this cycle, I wouldn't need to retake, but since I'm not, there is everything reason to retake since it is the most obvious weakness in my application. I just don't want it to be viewed negatively by admissions committees for taking taking it more than twice. Every school I called said they take the best score, so I'm not sure...
 
No. My score was even more unbalanced (around 90%+ in 3 sections with a 124 in CARS) and I ended up with a full-tuition scholarship to my favorite school. Your MCAT is fine.
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I wouldn't waste any time or money on that. You're either going to get in to med school or you're not, and a "consultant" like this is not going to change the odds in your favor. In fact, since some of his advice is pretty stupid (the part about calling the schools), he very likely might actually hurt your chances.
 
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Totally agree with you. Like everything else, advice on SDN should be taken with a grain of salt. Do you recommend me retaking the MCAT a 3rd time to be more competitive at a top 20 school? My score is a 32 on the old scale and fairly unbalanced. I'm not doing well this cycle. I figured if I was doing well this cycle, I wouldn't need to retake, but since I'm not, there is everything reason to retake since it is the most obvious weakness in my application. I just don't want it to be viewed negatively by admissions committees for taking taking it more than twice. Every school I called said they take the best score, so I'm not sure...
You really might want to set your sights lower if it's highly unbalanced. A retake is unlikely to be a wise decision, as if your score drops, you will be screwed in future cycles. Plus the new MCAT is totally different than the old one, so it'd be a whole new test that might not play to your strengths. Broaden your app, because if you keep thinking "top 20 or bust" you might very well bust.
 
It honestly doesn't look like a scam but it doesn't look like a great idea either. He probably could help but it wouldn't be worth the $$
 
I wouldn't waste any time or money on that. You're either going to get in to med school or you're not, and a "consultant" like this is not going to change the odds in your favor. In fact, since some of his advice is pretty stupid (the part about calling the schools), he very likely might actually hurt your chances.

Yeah I figured it was a bit. If the dean of admissions finds out the admissions office did that, both the secretoary and I could get into a lot trouble for breeching their "fair admissions" policy and that's a sure fire way to kill your app.