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[LifeIsMiserable]

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Hello guys,

First time posting. Made an account because I was seriously depressed.

So I got rejected by my top choice recently and I really wanted it badly. I did get into another school but I don't think I will be too happy by going to that school. I know all dental schools will produce "dentists" and all will be "qualified" but seriously, I think I would feel like I didn't achieve my goal if I don't attend my top choice school. I don't want to regret 20 years later thinking I should have went to another school. But since I still got into a dental school even though it wasn't my top choice, I would still attend because it's still a dental school.

My question is, am I allowed to apply again this cycle while I'm going to be in dental school? I don't mind staying back one more year to do D1 again or paying for one more year. Ok this may sound stupid to some people but seriously I want to go to a school I would be proud of and I would be happy to attend for 4 years. If I don't get in again next year then that's another story and I probably finish with that school but is this possible? Would the school look at it negatively and not select me because I'm willing to quit from the other dental school?

Please help...

 

[fldnstrm]

What will change about your application from this year to next to make you think you will get into your top choice next year? Also on your AADSAS application it asks if you have applied previous years, and I don't see any school being super excited to accept a D1 from another school. If you really want to go to that school just wait one more year to go and save yourself the wasted money from the school you don't want to go to.

 

[coolslugs]

Hello guys,

First time posting. Made an account because I was seriously depressed.

So I got rejected by my top choice recently and I really wanted it badly. I did get into another school but I don't think I will be too happy by going to that school. I know all dental schools will produce "dentists" and all will be "qualified" but seriously, I think I would feel like I didn't achieve my goal if I don't attend my top choice school. I don't want to regret 20 years later thinking I should have went to another school. But since I still got into a dental school even though it wasn't my top choice, I would still attend because it's still a dental school.

My question is, am I allowed to apply again this cycle while I'm going to be in dental school? I don't mind staying back one more year to do D1 again or paying for one more year. Ok this may sound stupid to some people but seriously I want to go to a school I would be proud of and I would be happy to attend for 4 years. If I don't get in again next year then that's another story and I probably finish with that school but is this possible? Would the school look at it negatively and not select me because I'm willing to quit from the other dental school?

Please help...

Don't be depressed. There are many, many applicants who would rather be in your shoes. Chances are 20 years from now you won't care which school you went to and no one will ask. Does your top choice dental school take transfers?

 

[AmpedUp]

I say take the opportunity to challenge yourself to liking something. At the worst, you'll become a dentist. However, if you don't mind waiting, then it's your call...

Do you think it was by luck you got in? What were your numbers? It's getting increasingly competitive to get in now...and I don't think that will change...

Honestly, you don't know the meaning of depression when you've been in my shoes. I've got some serious pressure on me now...and I'm a little paranoid about the prospects of getting into dental school this round. You've got all of that in your favor. I wouldn't remove myself from this great opportunity (if I were you), even if it was at a school I hate. The worst thing you can do is pre-judge a school. answer this question: how do you know you hate it?

 

[xjmgenius]

I say don't go if you don't like the school, and give the opportunity to someone who wants it.
And do not reapply as a D1 because 1. you'll waste tuition 2. doesn't make you more qualified as an applicant 3. i'm not sure but doesn't that make you a dropout?

 

[Vicviper]

I've heard of a few schools who are OK with reapplying for D1 as a D1, such as Western, but the impression I got from other schools when I was asking this, because I was in a very similar situation, where my top choice literally told me that if I had applied earlier I would have been accepted, was that it's somewhat frowned upon. In all reality, beyond your first job, I don't think the dental school you go to really matters very much, and that's the impression I've gotten from a number of dentists as well. And if you don't have anything tying you down to a specific location, like a family, loved ones, in the long run, losing the year isn't particularly worthwhile.

 

[dentalWorks]

Hello guys,

First time posting. Made an account because I was seriously depressed.

So I got rejected by my top choice recently and I really wanted it badly. I did get into another school but I don't think I will be too happy by going to that school. I know all dental schools will produce "dentists" and all will be "qualified" but seriously, I think I would feel like I didn't achieve my goal if I don't attend my top choice school. I don't want to regret 20 years later thinking I should have went to another school. But since I still got into a dental school even though it wasn't my top choice, I would still attend because it's still a dental school.

My question is, am I allowed to apply again this cycle while I'm going to be in dental school? I don't mind staying back one more year to do D1 again or paying for one more year. Ok this may sound stupid to some people but seriously I want to go to a school I would be proud of and I would be happy to attend for 4 years. If I don't get in again next year then that's another story and I probably finish with that school but is this possible? Would the school look at it negatively and not select me because I'm willing to quit from the other dental school?

Please help...

Your given a great opportunity at one of the most competitive fields in today's education system.... This statement alone should be your Prozac.

 

[doc toothache]

It appears that you have a difficult time recognizing the good fortune that is smiling upon you. Your primary goal should be to get accepted to a dental program while the secondary goal should be to make it to your dream school. In 20 years it quite likely that, even if you achieved your dream, you may still be on non speaking terms with your alma. What makes you think that your "top choice" will respond differently the second time around? You could certainly give someone else the gift of a lifetime by declining your spot.

 

[peanutb123]

Hello guys,

First time posting. Made an account because I was seriously depressed.

So I got rejected by my top choice recently and I really wanted it badly. I did get into another school but I don't think I will be too happy by going to that school. I know all dental schools will produce "dentists" and all will be "qualified" but seriously, I think I would feel like I didn't achieve my goal if I don't attend my top choice school. I don't want to regret 20 years later thinking I should have went to another school. But since I still got into a dental school even though it wasn't my top choice, I would still attend because it's still a dental school.

My question is, am I allowed to apply again this cycle while I'm going to be in dental school? I don't mind staying back one more year to do D1 again or paying for one more year. Ok this may sound stupid to some people but seriously I want to go to a school I would be proud of and I would be happy to attend for 4 years. If I don't get in again next year then that's another story and I probably finish with that school but is this possible? Would the school look at it negatively and not select me because I'm willing to quit from the other dental school?

Please help...

this is what i call a drama wh323

 

[Aceofspades]

This is why you don't apply to a school where you wouldn't go if accepted. If your life's goal is to get into this one "top school" then only apply to that one school. Since no other school will satisfy you then don't waste your time, the adcom's time, or a dental school seat.

Turn down your acceptance and reapply to your top school only. Tell them that you only want to go to their dental school or no dental school and that is your life's mission. Keep reapplying if rejected and sooner or later they are bound to accept you or get a restraining order against you.

 

[dentiist2be]

This is why you don't apply to a school where you wouldn't go if accepted. If your life's goal is to get into this one "top school" then only apply to that one school. Since no other school will satisfy you then don't waste your time, the adcom's time, or a dental school seat.

Turn down your acceptance and reapply to your top school only. Tell them that you only want to go to their dental school or no dental school and that is your life's mission. Keep reapplying if rejected and sooner or later they are bound to accept you or get a restraining order against you.

 

[cmcner]

Keep reapplying if rejected and sooner or later they are bound to accept you or get a restraining order against you.

There is no guarantee of acceptance ever at any school. You might not fit their mission for one reason or another, if not they may never let you in and you'll never know why. Remember at some of these schools you're one of 3500 applicants for 35 spots. They can fill their classes 100 times over without ever accepting you, they have all the power you have none and it just keeps getting harder every year. Every acceptance you receive is like winning the lottery, don't throw away your winning scratch off ticket because you think if you buy another ticket you'll be able to win the jackpot, cash it in and buy something nice for yourself, like a white coat.

 

[psi169]

I understand being upset because its something that you really wanted, but it isn't a reason to be depressed; its just another goal to work towards.

Be PROUD that (thank goodness) you got into a dental school. You are going to go there, work your butt off to be at the very top of your class, and reapply to your top choice school when you specialize. Then you will end up at your top choice school pursuing an ADVANCED dental degree.

And having that goal to work towards will carry you through the first 4 years of dental school. So man up and be proud. You will end up there in 4 years.

 

[LifeIsMiserable]

This is why you don't apply to a school where you wouldn't go if accepted. If your life's goal is to get into this one "top school" then only apply to that one school. Since no other school will satisfy you then don't waste your time, the adcom's time, or a dental school seat.

Turn down your acceptance and reapply to your top school only. Tell them that you only want to go to their dental school or no dental school and that is your life's mission. Keep reapplying if rejected and sooner or later they are bound to accept you or get a restraining order against you.

I applied because I knew it's going to be difficult to get into my top choice school no matter how much I want to get in. And yes I do feel grateful that I have gotten in somewhere at least but I'm still depressed that I didn't get into my top choice. I hope there is nothing wrong with this? I'm obviously still going to go to the school I got in because nothing is a guarantee and I obviously may not get in again next year. At that point I probably settle with this school but I still was wondering if I could try again as a D1. I don't think many people on this forum have answered the question for me yet. I hope you guys don't take my intention offensive, I respect this profession very dearly and I would still like to go to this school but I still can't help the fact that at back of my mind, I just feel like I would be happier being at my top choice instead.

For those of you who have asked me what makes me think I could get in next year I'm thinking of re writing DAT (20/22/20) because I didn't have much time to study for this last time so I could probably improve, my GPA is fine I think (~3.85). Also shadow more, volunteer in more activities etc? Write a better personal statement?

So back to the question, this maybe frowned upon but still allowed? Shouldn't the school look at this actually positively that I would be willing to go through all this to go to their school? Do you ever see people from D1 applying to a better school?

Thanks...I appreciate all your comments

 

[adrift1984]

if you are solely interested in this one school, I would suggest transferring.

this though requires certain circumstances in order to be feasible.
-on open seat in the class (usually requiring that someone had left during D1)
-a seamless transition of the curriculum
-approval by the schools.

 

[mylilpony]

What is your first choice? Is it a state school or IVY?

If it's your state school and you would be saving money...then it might be okay to consider the possibility of stay back and applying next year.

If it's a school like Harvard, I would say...just go to the school you got into. Just because you are losing too much money by staying back and waiting.

 

[setdoc7]

You may be happily surprised at your accepted school. You could have been miserable at your top choice. Every year and class is different, only the building remains the same. Stop over-analyzing and send in your deposit and start packing.

 

[Blue Panther]

Reapplying next year will also set you back a year. A year of residency or a year of practice making potentially $100k before tax. Twenty years from now, you won't be regretting that you should have went to your top choice but rather regret what you should have done AFTER graduation.

Even if your top choice is a state school and you got into a more expensive private school, applying next year and losing one year of income will more than likely equal out the increased tuition.

 

[MRSA]

If it's a school like Harvard, I would say...just go to the school you got into. Just because you are losing too much money by staying back and waiting.

👍


like fldnstrm said, there's only so much you can do to make your app more competitive by application time. don't take this the wrong way, but they likely rejected you for a reason (Assuming that timing was not an issue and you applied prudently).

A DDS is a DDS.

 

[doanh]

Everything happens for a reason. Sure, mop around for a little bit, but who knows, maybe your future significant other is at the school you've been accepted at!

I was pretty depressed when I was rejected at my #1 choice for undergrad and felt like I had to settle...for 2nd or 3rd best, but in retrospect, I saved $$, I made friends that I would not have otherwise met if I went elsewhere, and I was able to continue my friendships by living closer to home.

Anyway your ultimate dream is to be a dentist right? Life will always give ya bumps but enjoy the roller coaster

 

[longhornpride]

I know you have good intentions... but like people have said, everything happens for a reason. There are thousands of people that would love to be in your shoes right now, so really appreciate and take advantage of your opportunities.

 

[doc toothache]

I'm obviously still going to go to the school I got in because nothing is a guarantee and I obviously may not get in again next year. At that point I probably settle with this school but I still was wondering if I could try again as a D1. I don't think many people on this forum have answered the question for me yet.
For those of you who have asked me what makes me think I could get in next year I'm thinking of re writing DAT (20/22/20) because I didn't have much time to study for this last time so I could probably improve, my GPA is fine I think (~3.85). Also shadow more, volunteer in more activities etc? Write a better personal statement?

So back to the question, this maybe frowned upon but still allowed? Shouldn't the school look at this actually positively that I would be willing to go through all this to go to their school? Do you ever see people from D1 applying to a better school?

Logic should dictate that if you start a program you will not be in a position to apply as a D1 unless you are talking about a transfer which, in general, is difficult to achieve. You seem to be oblivious to the possibility that your love affair with your top choice is unilateral. Once you start a ds program, contemplating on "re writing" the DAT and the rest of your laundry list for improving your application makes about as much sense as your pouting because you didn't get the one you wanted.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=655797
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=619685

 

[mylilpony]

Logic should dictate that if you start a program you will not be in a position to apply as a D1 unless you are talking about a transfer which, in general, is difficult to achieve. You seem to be oblivious to the possibility that your love affair with your top choice is unilateral. Once you start a ds program, contemplating on "re writing" the DAT and the rest of your laundry list for improving your application makes about as much sense as your pouting because you didn't get the one you wanted.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=655797
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=619685

Oh Doc, you are so poetic 😍. No but really, that was kind of funny. Look OP, we all get rejected in some way. Maybe it's a girl/guy, maybe it's a school, maybe it's a job...but in the real world, there are no re-do's. It is what it is. I can tell you that we all feel your pain, but use this "rejection" to move forward and continue to try your best.

 

[ub40]

i'm really curious what these two schools are..

 

[dentalWorks]

This thread is stupid as hell and serves none of us PRE-dents with any insightful information. wtf the kid is "depressed" cause he didn't get into his favorite school

close this f****** thread before I lose my mind

 

[dentalaee]

I've heard of a few schools who are OK with reapplying for D1 as a D1, such as Western, but the impression I got from other schools when I was asking this, because I was in a very similar situation, where my top choice literally told me that if I had applied earlier I would have been accepted, was that it's somewhat frowned upon. In all reality, beyond your first job, I don't think the dental school you go to really matters very much, and that's the impression I've gotten from a number of dentists as well. And if you don't have anything tying you down to a specific location, like a family, loved ones, in the long run, losing the year isn't particularly worthwhile.

Vicviper, may I ask you what your 1st choice was?

 

[Vicviper]

Vicviper, may I ask you what your 1st choice was?

Loma Linda - was like the school I always thought I'd be going to all the years in the run up to applying, but... *stuff* happens, and they don't always work out like you expect. And anyways, dental school is dental school, and I was glad to have been accepted to the schools I was admitted to, but, with dental you go where you get in.

 

[iluvdentistry]

This thread is stupid as hell and serves none of us PRE-dents with any insightful information. wtf the kid is "depressed" cause he didn't get into his favorite school

close this f****** thread before I lose my mind

I kind of agree. Looking at the stats for most dental schools any dummy could see how incredibly awesome it is to be one of that miniscule percentage of applicants that gets accepted. I'll crap my pants if I get accepted for the first time. Please don't take a positive thing and make it negative... it just makes people in my shoes feel more depressed than you're probably feeling. Tough love buddy.

 

[psi169]

Like you I didn't get into my top choice. I was bummed, it was an outright rejection, not even waitlisted. It really turned out to be the best thing that could have happened to me. I absolutely love my new school and the faculty couldn't be better. While it seems harder, honestly you didn't get in this year and they probably won't "really" tell you why. This means you have no idea if you will get in the next year. Add that to the fact that whoever accepted you this year might not want you next year and you could end up like the guy in my class who applied 5 years in a row, or worse, the guy NOT in my class who never got in.

It isn't as bad as it seems, unless you make it that way. Your experience is mostly the students you attend with, and not the school. Also, good stats are fine, but if you don't have the skills in the interview, your toast, no matter how well you score.

👍 Well said. There are no guarantees.

But bitbrain, what was it about your first choice that had you so fixated on it over the school you got into to? And does it even linger in your mind anymore?

 

[razorback2009]

I applied because I knew it's going to be difficult to get into my top choice school no matter how much I want to get in. And yes I do feel grateful that I have gotten in somewhere at least but I'm still depressed that I didn't get into my top choice. I hope there is nothing wrong with this? I'm obviously still going to go to the school I got in because nothing is a guarantee and I obviously may not get in again next year. At that point I probably settle with this school but I still was wondering if I could try again as a D1. I don't think many people on this forum have answered the question for me yet. I hope you guys don't take my intention offensive, I respect this profession very dearly and I would still like to go to this school but I still can't help the fact that at back of my mind, I just feel like I would be happier being at my top choice instead.

For those of you who have asked me what makes me think I could get in next year I'm thinking of re writing DAT (20/22/20) because I didn't have much time to study for this last time so I could probably improve, my GPA is fine I think (~3.85). Also shadow more, volunteer in more activities etc? Write a better personal statement?

So back to the question, this maybe frowned upon but still allowed? Shouldn't the school look at this actually positively that I would be willing to go through all this to go to their school? Do you ever see people from D1 applying to a better school?

Thanks...I appreciate all your comments

Your dream university is no longer "a choice"... so why kill yourself over it? There are literally thousands of applicants that would be willing to give their right arm to be in your position.

Reapplying to another school as a D1 would be seen as a sign of great disrespect towards your university. You could only hope that the deans of each school don't know/contact each other.

On top of that, would you really be willing to pay $30-60k for a year of school, only to be forced to start all over again at a new school as a D1 (I think this is what would happen)?

The only "choice" you have, IMO, is whether or not you should turn down your spot this year or not. I can't fathom doing such a thing for risk of not getting in next year...

Good luck with whatever choice you make 😉

 

[Hordel]

I applied because I knew it's going to be difficult to get into my top choice school no matter how much I want to get in. And yes I do feel grateful that I have gotten in somewhere at least but I'm still depressed that I didn't get into my top choice. I hope there is nothing wrong with this? I'm obviously still going to go to the school I got in because nothing is a guarantee and I obviously may not get in again next year. At that point I probably settle with this school but I still was wondering if I could try again as a D1. I don't think many people on this forum have answered the question for me yet. I hope you guys don't take my intention offensive, I respect this profession very dearly and I would still like to go to this school but I still can't help the fact that at back of my mind, I just feel like I would be happier being at my top choice instead.

For those of you who have asked me what makes me think I could get in next year I'm thinking of re writing DAT (20/22/20) because I didn't have much time to study for this last time so I could probably improve, my GPA is fine I think (~3.85). Also shadow more, volunteer in more activities etc? Write a better personal statement?

So back to the question, this maybe frowned upon but still allowed? Shouldn't the school look at this actually positively that I would be willing to go through all this to go to their school? Do you ever see people from D1 applying to a better school?

Thanks...I appreciate all your comments

Coming from a current D1, good luck having ANY time to do any of the above things to improve your app once in dental school! If you focus n reapplying and NOT your D1 year you could find yourself with poor grades or even failing (yes, no matter how good you are it is going to take a LOT of time and studying not to mention in lab time). I honestly think that, as stated, your best bet is to go to the school and forget this other "dream school." Then make yourself top of your class and get into a residency at this other school!

 

[Atticus]

Hello guys,

First time posting. Made an account because I was seriously depressed.

So I got rejected by my top choice recently and I really wanted it badly. I did get into another school but I don't think I will be too happy by going to that school. I know all dental schools will produce "dentists" and all will be "qualified" but seriously, I think I would feel like I didn't achieve my goal if I don't attend my top choice school. I don't want to regret 20 years later thinking I should have went to another school. But since I still got into a dental school even though it wasn't my top choice, I would still attend because it's still a dental school.

My question is, am I allowed to apply again this cycle while I'm going to be in dental school? I don't mind staying back one more year to do D1 again or paying for one more year. Ok this may sound stupid to some people but seriously I want to go to a school I would be proud of and I would be happy to attend for 4 years. If I don't get in again next year then that's another story and I probably finish with that school but is this possible? Would the school look at it negatively and not select me because I'm willing to quit from the other dental school?

Please help...

Hello there,
I just wanted to tell you something-- If you are seriously this depressed, not because you didn't get into dental school but because it matters that much what school you got into, I really think you should think about your reasoning behind pursuing dentistry.

Also, if something so relatively trivial (actually, not even relatively trivial... completely trivial!) in the grand scheme of things threw me into this large of a "depression," I would be worried about my mental stability entering into such a mentally exhausting educational field.

 

[doanh]

So the school I wanted was ASDOH. It is a new school with excellent facilities AND it was only 6 miles from my old house. I was self employed in the area with great stable income that I could have sustained for a bit.

I got the rejection letter in November just before my only other interview (applied to 15 schools) and just made the best out of my interview at Midwestern. I was accepted Dec 1 at Midwestern without a degree and only 93 credits. It was a long shot the first year I applied, but used it as a learning experience and it paid off.

I wasn't excited about moving to Glendale AZ from Mesa AZ, it wasn't an exotic change for my family, it didn't let me travel the country or experience new culture. I wasn't excited about the move, but hey, I got into school, what else mattered? I can tell you I love the school, the program, the area is amazing. Where I used to live was an older community where we were on the 230th generation of small businesses in the area which resulted in a very haphazard town. Glendale is newer and still seems to have a planned feel to it.

To answer the last part of the question, I don't still miss ASDOH, it would have been convenient, but the mission of ASDOH is one of public service, and mine will be private practice. Midwestern fits me better, I knew it, they knew it, I just wanted life to be convenient. It turned out for the best as now I have more time to focus on school without the distractions of all my old friends and businesses.

Haha, this sounds like me! I really wanted to go to ASDOH. I toured their school prior to the cycle and it was awesome. However, when time came around for applications-- I was flat out rejected. I was so sad....but MWU accepted me and I'm glad things turned out the way they did and I haven't even gone to MWU yet 😛

 

[judottt]

Life is miserable? Really? A little dramatic aren't ya?

Check out your ideal school and see if they will accept transfers and find out everything you need to know about how to become a transfer student. Maybe write a post asking for students that have transferred- why they did it, what schools allow it, who they talked to in the admissions department, etc.