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is this allowed
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I wonder if these proposals will go though. I hope not, it's just adding more bias towards DO. I think it's completely stupid to try and give DO students a potential hurdle for no reason. Wouldn't these proposals favor FMGs and hinder DOs? Why would you want to do that -_-. At least the AOA is working on keeping this from happening. I like how this will primarily affect florida. At least im moving from florida, lol.
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he asked a question about the two new proposals against DO/what he should do and i guess he chagned his mind about wanting an answer.
fmg=foreign medical graduate
fmg=foreign medical graduate
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Florida residents who are practicing osteopathic physcians will no longer be certified to practice in florida and DO will not be recognized by over 86% of hospitals in florida.
Where did you hear this?
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It's big right now in the AOA news.
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Recent proposal for 2014.
Hmm, this is certainly news to me. Have you seen this in print somewhere? I have not seen this mentioned in the osteo thread devoted to this topic.
If you can provide a link to these changes in Florida, I would greatly appreciate it!
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Im totally messing with you, lol. its nowhere near as severe as that but they are planning an unfair proposal towards DOs: http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-a...ral-training/Pages/acgme-training-limits.aspx
but im not worried about it honestly
but im not worried about it honestly
You're killing me, Smalls.
+1. Haha
Technically, yes. But you can get out of it through Resolution 42. There are several other states that require this.
Is that if you do any residency in FL or if you want to practice there after residency.
But does that really matter since there are so many aoa residencies in florida?
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Basically what is going on in a nutshell:
certain states require that DO graduates do an AOA intern year.
the ACGME proposal will not allow PGY2 applicants who did not do an ACGME intern year.
Therefore, DO graduates will not be eligible for ACGME residencies and (likely) fellowships in these states.
I am a little fuzzy on the specifics, but....
If the fellowship proposal passes, it means that all DO residents in these states are boxed out of specializing in many cases. It also would mean that DO physicians who did residency in other states and who did not do an AOA intern year would not be eligible for certification (or perhaps licensure?) within these states. Although that may already be the case for these states..... I am not really sure.
I am not sure how resolution 42 gets used IRL, but IMO it seems like another obstacle to DOs requiring AOA membership and ACGME program input in order to validate the training..... I have not heard that res 42 has the power to overrule state specific requirements for residency.
How hard is it to match into an ACGME traditional year as a DO? I'm interested in PM&R.
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There are no traditional Acgme internships. There are, however, Acgme transitional years. They are competitive. I doubt there is much, if any, DO bias. Its still going to be hard to match a transitional year, though. You are competing against all of the radiology and anesthiology superstars. Preliminary medicine and surgery spots are pretty easy to match. PM&R, if you are not aware, is easy as a DO and you could very well end up at top tier program.
The proposal will affect all DOs, not just those in Florida, Michigan, ect. The proposal, in my opinion, is not a big deal unless you are applying for aoa radiology or surgery. There are very few aoa surgical and radiological fellowships and, as a consequence of this proposal, those entering these fields will not be able to specialize.
I was well aware of this, but I was assuming that the new ACGME policies would affect that. Are you saying that the transitional year can be filled with prelim medicine to fulfill the requirement to start a PGY-2 residency?
But aoa specialty residency do exist Especially alot in michigan and florida. Also most dos already match into aoa specialty residencies and not acgme. Say ortho and radio. So I still don't understand why this would be bad for dos wanting to go into competitive specialty since they already mostly go unit aoa residency
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Specialty is not the same as fellowship. Nobody is saying there aren't specialty programs.....
Yep, you can do either a transitional, preliminary medicine or preliminary surgery year. People just want the transitional year because its easy.
And, to zoner, as Spector said, the issue is fellowships not residencies. Let's say you do an AOA ortho residency and you want to do a spine fellowship afterwards. If the proposal passes, your ability to do a spine fellowship would be greatly diminished because you would be ineligible for acgme fellowships.
