Is this enough clinical experience?

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[YCAGA]

Hey, all!

Mom of a pre-med here. I'm doing the asking because I'm not sure my pre-med is getting good advising at school.

Here's what his clinical experience will look like by the time he applies. His goal is MD, pediatric ER.

400+ hours of urban, high-volume ambulance service as a licensed paramedic (EMT-P). Assessments, starting IVs at 70 MPH, intubations, pre-hospital trauma treatment, pushing meds, etc.

150+ hours in various ERs/other facilities. These are hands-on hours with constant patient contact and procedures (under supervision) like what's mentioned above, not observation/shadowing hours. Breakdown is like so:

• 88 hours spread across 6 different main/regular ERs, including 16 hrs at a Level 1 Trauma Center
• 24 hours pediatric ER
• 16 hours Labor & Delivery
• 8 hours OMI (morgue / autopsy)
• 8 hours ICU
• 8 hours hospital OR

He's planning to work part-time/PRN during his senior year. If he does a gap year, which he's considering, he'll be able to add a year of full-time ambulance or ER work.

If he needs something more / different, please let me know. My concern isn't so much the number of hours, it's that they were acquired mostly through his paramedic clinical rotations and internship. Does that matter?

Thanks in advance!

Throw in some shadowing for primary care and 1-2 other specialties (outside of emergency medicine/ICU/trauma)--you still need to shadow physicians if you want to go to medical school, not just work in medical settings or be around physicians. It sounds like plenty of clinical experience though. The only question I would have is why did he become a paramedic to only work a few hundred hours? Also, let him ask these questions lol. You are way too involved for someone wanting to go to medical school. He needs to be doing all of this research himself. Are you going to help him match for residency too?

 

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[Goro]

Hey, all!

Mom of a pre-med here. I'm doing the asking because I'm not sure my pre-med is getting good advising at school.

Here's what his clinical experience will look like by the time he applies. His goal is MD, pediatric ER.

400+ hours of urban, high-volume ambulance service as a licensed paramedic (EMT-P). Assessments, starting IVs at 70 MPH, intubations, pre-hospital trauma treatment, pushing meds, etc.

150+ hours in various ERs/other facilities. These are hands-on hours with constant patient contact and procedures (under supervision) like what's mentioned above, not observation/shadowing hours. Breakdown is like so:

• 88 hours spread across 6 different main/regular ERs, including 16 hrs at a Level 1 Trauma Center
• 24 hours pediatric ER
• 16 hours Labor & Delivery
• 8 hours OMI (morgue / autopsy)
• 8 hours ICU
• 8 hours hospital OR

He's planning to work part-time/PRN during his senior year. If he does a gap year, which he's considering, he'll be able to add a year of full-time ambulance or ER work.

If he needs something more / different, please let me know. My concern isn't so much the number of hours, it's that they were acquired mostly through his paramedic clinical rotations and internship. Does that matter?

Thanks in advance!

Your boy is good.

 

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Your boy is good.

Thanks

 

[LizzyM]

Things may be different in your jurisdiction but I thought that EMT-P training takes 1-3 years. That's why working at it for only 400 hours after putting in so much time to be licensed seems short-sighted.

Working in pre-hospital care of patients is clinical experience but shadowing in primary care setting and non-emergency hospital settings would be a good idea. Fifty hours of shadowing should suffice. Pre-meds aren't expected to have performed procedures -- that's taught in medical school but teamwork experiences acquired on a rig will be appreciated.

In terms of volunteering hours... clinical volunteering is not required, particularly if someone has paid clinical service hours. Community service to the needy is another story and it is always a good idea to put in the time, year in and year out, to do one's part for the broader community in an activity that is not a "two birds - one stone" clinical volunteer activity.

 

[deleted1036842]

Things may be different in your jurisdiction but I thought that EMT-P training takes 1-3 years. That's why working at it for only 400 hours after putting in so much time to be licensed seems short-sighted.

Working in pre-hospital care of patients is clinical experience but shadowing in primary care setting and non-emergency hospital settings would be a good idea. Fifty hours of shadowing should suffice. Pre-meds aren't expected to have performed procedures -- that's taught in medical school but teamwork experiences acquired on a rig will be appreciated.

In terms of volunteering hours... clinical volunteering is not required, particularly if someone has paid clinical service hours. Community service to the needy is another story and it is always a good idea to put in the time, year in and year out, to do one's part for the broader community in an activity that is not a "two birds - one stone" clinical volunteer activity.

Thank you

 

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Cheers!