Is this real? State of Texas creating their own EPPP?

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They can do it, but I imagine this would lead to them losing PSYPACT status, as well as their licenses not being recognized elsewhere. So, fine if you want to stay in Texas and don't plan on any out of state practice, telehealth or otherwise.

Texas has also sharply expanded midlevel scope in recent years. Looks like they essentially want to make the practice of psychology a midlevel thing. An ebbing tide lowers all boats, y'all. Glad I'm not an ECP these days.
 
Reading further, the TX argument seems disingenuous. They're saying that an easier test will allow them to meet shortages. The first-time pass rate of the EPP usually hovers between 76-82% any given year. So, it's not like there is a flood of people just waiting to get in. Additionally, most of these are diploma mills grads, with a high proportion in CA urban areas. It's not like these people are just itching to move to rural TX to go practice. This seems like just another way TX wants to enter the culture war and erode any semblance of training/expertise in a bid to out MAGA Florida, where you can teach without a license as long as you were in the military.
 
It's going to be a tough hill for TX to climb for the reasons mentioned above. Not sure if I'm being overly hopeful or not, but wondering if this ends up being posturing by TX in an attempt to further pressure ASPPB to scuttle whatever EPPP part 2 will end up looking like. We have to remember ASPPB didn't shut it down for good, just for now. Maybe things like this (losing control of their exam and licensing process) might make them think twice about a part two. IIRC part two's ability to actually predict whether someone can practice clinically was up for debate. And ASPPB still tried to shove it down the state's throats.
 
downhillfromhere said:
…What is this in reference to? lol? Could you share more?

As to the broader OP, thank goodness I will never be anywhere near TX. Seems like a **** show. I do wish ASPBB would directly address the issue of racial disparities across EPPP scores… which I think is what prompted this effort across several states.

They need to simultaneously tackle the (very serious) issues of diploma mill grads w/o competencies or actual evidence-based training joining the field… It’s all such a circus. Created by the larger incompetence/negligence of the APA.
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While this could be true, the "data" that suggest this are disingenuous. The Sharpless articles are fundamentally flawed. This association is almost assuredly accounted for by the diploma mills. Or, even if you wanted to step up from there, the PsyD/PhD differences. They had the data to run these analyses, but chose not to, likely because it did not fit their narrative. You'd really have to control for program quality, such as seeing how pass rates within programs did when you looked at demographic differences. But, this was not done, and we probably know why.
 
downhillfromhere said:
…What is this in reference to? lol? Could you share more?

As to the broader OP, thank goodness I will never be anywhere near TX. Seems like a **** show. I do wish ASPBB would directly address the issue of racial disparities across EPPP scores… which I think is what prompted this effort across several states.

They need to simultaneously tackle the (very serious) issues of diploma mill grads w/o competencies or actual evidence-based training joining the field… It’s all such a circus. Created by the larger incompetence/negligence of the APA.
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Because apparently, serving in the military inherently prepares you to teach children.
 
Shiori said:
I can see the problems they're trying to solve, but fail to see how creating their own test would solve any of those problems.
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Well, they can create a cheaper test, but likely only if Texas citizens are footing a large part of the bill on a yearly basis. And, they can also make it hilariously easy to pass. So, they can try and recruit the very small number of people who cannot pass the EPPP from multiple attempts. Makes perfect sense.
 
R. Matey said:
I personally can't wait to see the items:

A standard treatment plan for depression includes:

A. Manning Up
B. Getting an open carry permit to man up
C. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps
D. Going to church
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Way too progressive there. Texas allows permitless carry.
 
I've been to a recent presentation from ASPPB on the pending changes to EPPP. It is being referred to as the "integrated format" which is a single test with items dedicated to both knowledge and skills (skills being the area that they had been trying to address with the failed EPPP 2). Other than refocusing the content of some of the questions, I'm not sure how different the experience of taking the test will ultimately be? I just googled and found this "hot off the press" update. It's supposed to roll out 2027. I'm kind of neutral on the matter. It's not like the EPPP in its current form is so great, but I'm not sure this will be appreciably better or worse. 🤷‍♀️

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LM02 said:
I've been to a recent presentation from ASPPB on the pending changes to EPPP. It is being referred to as the "integrated format" which is a single test with items dedicated to both knowledge and skills (skills being the area that they had been trying to address with the failed EPPP 2). Other than refocusing the content of some of the questions, I'm not sure how different the experience of taking the test will ultimately be? I just googled and found this "hot off the press" update. It's supposed to roll out 2027. I'm kind of neutral on the matter. It's not like the EPPP in its current form is so great, but I'm not sure this will be appreciably better or worse. 🤷‍♀️

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EPPP Exam Changes Coming in 2027 | What Psychologists Need to Know

A new, integrated EPPP exam is launching in 2027. Learn what’s changing, why it matters, and how to prepare with trusted AATBS study materials for the current...
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I can appreciate them combining it into a single test, and I can also appreciate the desire to add some skills-based content. It'll mostly be a matter of how successful they are in doing that. Seems like it'll be pretty tough to make it worse.
 
cara susanna said:
Maybe next we can make all state exams open book (come on, in real life you can look up statutes!)
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Half of the licenses I've had were open book exams. The others were pretty easy. For my home state jurisprudence exam I just looked over pdfs for half an hour before the exam in the testing center parking lot.
 
LM02 said:
I've been to a recent presentation from ASPPB on the pending changes to EPPP. It is being referred to as the "integrated format" which is a single test with items dedicated to both knowledge and skills (skills being the area that they had been trying to address with the failed EPPP 2). Other than refocusing the content of some of the questions, I'm not sure how different the experience of taking the test will ultimately be? I just googled and found this "hot off the press" update. It's supposed to roll out 2027. I'm kind of neutral on the matter. It's not like the EPPP in its current form is so great, but I'm not sure this will be appreciably better or worse. 🤷‍♀️

aatbs.com

EPPP Exam Changes Coming in 2027 | What Psychologists Need to Know

A new, integrated EPPP exam is launching in 2027. Learn what’s changing, why it matters, and how to prepare with trusted AATBS study materials for the current...
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I'm about 100% that this doesn't happen either. None of what they have said about "roll-outs" or requirements or adoptions of all this stuff over the past 10 have ever really happened.
 
WisNeuro said:
Half of the licenses I've had were open book exams. The others were pretty easy. For my home state jurisprudence exam I just looked over pdfs for half an hour before the exam in the testing center parking lot.
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Two of mine were like this, but my current state was not open book and was extremely hard. Not because any of the content was difficult, but because it appeared as though a 13 year old wrote the questions with a "gotcha!" goal in mind. It was bizarre. I passed, but many perfectly competent colleagues had failed previously.
 
thebalmofhurtminds said:
Two of mine were like this, but my current state was not open book and was extremely hard. Not because any of the content was difficult, but because it appeared as though a 13 year old wrote the questions with a "gotcha!" goal in mind. It was bizarre. I passed, but many perfectly competent colleagues had failed previously.
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I had an oral exam in one midwestern state that was unnecessarily picky. I passed, but there were like ~6 topic areas and you could get something like 1-2 questions wrong, but if you got the F/U wrong you automatically failed; it felt very "gotcha". I still remember the question I "failed" bc it was related to suicidality and I had published in that area, but my answer didn't specify some random thing, so I had to answer the alternative question. I am all for ensuring competency, but requiring on oral exam that took weeks to schedule and still required applicants to drive to the closest location seemed excessive.

The written juris prudence in another state was very straight foward and basically verbatim from the book.
 
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