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[msa786]

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Is it true that NYCPM accepts almost everyone? Are they really that lenient on admissions? If so, then why?

My friend has a 2.4 overall GPA and is planning on taking her DAT's soon. She shadows a podiatrist, works in a hospital, does research, and volunteers as well. She is also planning on doing the summer pre-matriculation course that NYCPM offers.

What are her chances of getting in? Please be honest.

Thanks🙂

 

[WannaBeDPM]

your "friend" doesn't quite make the minimum GPA requirements for most of the Pod schools....

NYCPM may or may not grant "her" admission...but if they did, it would be based on her DAT score...

It's worth a shot though...NYCPM has been known to accept some pretty low stat (on paper at least) applicants!

good luck to your friend...

👍

 

[MaseratiGT]

You happen to know a lot of information about your "friend."

 

[165007]

2.4??

i dont think any schools would accept u

 

[GoldenGustie]

I don't go to NYCPM, but I did find this on their admissions web page:

"The profile of the average incoming first year student has a 3.2 GPA and an overall MCAT score of 21. To be most competitive, you should possess a science and overall GPA over 3.0, on a 4.0 scale. It is recommended that candidates with less than a 2.75 grade point average consult the Office of Admissions prior to applying."

Do your friend a favor and tell her to call the admissions office before she does anything. GL

 

[JEWmongous]

I know a few people accepted to NYCPM with 15 AA on their DAT. That is an awful score so pretty much anything is possible.

 

[cool_vkb]

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[GoldenGustie]

I am more curious about why one would take the DAT when they are thinking med school from the beginning? I just seems to me that you show more motivation towards a career in medicine by taking the MCAT (since the DAT is for dentistry). The profession is headed in a direction where schools should no longer accept exams other than the MCAT, that is if we want to show that our education is on a level equivalent to that of our MD/DO counterparts which is part of the APMA's Vision 2015.

Just my opinion though...

 

[msa786]

You happen to know a lot of information about your "friend."

Thanks for the sarcasm, but I have already been accepted to NYCPM for the September 2008 class. 👍

 

[msa786]

your "friend" doesn't quite make the minimum GPA requirements for most of the Pod schools....

NYCPM may or may not grant "her" admission...but if they did, it would be based on her DAT score...

It's worth a shot though...NYCPM has been known to accept some pretty low stat (on paper at least) applicants!

good luck to your friend...

👍

So which ones does she have the highest shot at?

 

[msa786]

your "friend" doesn't quite make the minimum GPA requirements for most of the Pod schools....

NYCPM may or may not grant "her" admission...but if they did, it would be based on her DAT score...

It's worth a shot though...NYCPM has been known to accept some pretty low stat (on paper at least) applicants!

good luck to your friend...

👍

So which ones does she have the greatest chances at?

 

[Feli]

So which ones does she have the greatest chances at?

Everything varies year to year depending on how many apps each school gets.

Scholl, DMU, and AZ are generally percieved as the more selective pod schools. NY, Ohio, Barry, and CSPM are not as selective. Temple is more of an enigma since they were fairly selective in the past but that might have changed depending who you talk to (I really have no idea).

The hard part is not just getting into the pod programs, it's graduating and doing well. The admissions stats appear low, but the attrition rates are much much higher than MD or DO programs. My particular pod program probably has fairly lax admissions standards in some years when applicant strength is not high, but it's not as if people who don't have adequate talent or don't put in work will waltz right thorugh to graduation day. There are a lot of tough classes to take, and there are also board exams. My '09 class started with 70+ people and currently has around 40.

I've probably posted at length on this issue in the past, but it's certainly not just a vending machine where you put in $100k in tuition and 4yrs of sitting in class and out pops a degree. With MD or DO, "getting in" is usually the big part, and after tough admissions criteria, courses are curved or repeated so 90%+ of those who are accepted will eventually graduate. With pod schools (or Carib MD schools), they are more tuition driven and will accept many borderline students... many of whom cannot handle the curriculum and will never make it to graduation.

 

[DRFootball]

I am currently a fourth year student at NYCPM and have been involved in the admissions process for many of the current students, having interviewed and given tours of NYCPM to many of them. I can tell you first hand that admission to NYCPM, and I'm sure to many of the other schools, is based on many factors. While test scores and GPAs have their importance in this process, a person's extra-curricular activities, enthusiasm for their future profession, and personality go a long way. Anyone with any significant clinical experience knows that if a patient does not trust you, they will not give you the history of their problem. So what good are all those grades that people put so much emphasis on if that is the only thing you rely on?

That being said, NYCPM's standards for admission are of the utmost quality, not only to ensure the stature of the school but also in efforts to help promote the future of podiatry. If your friend can explain her low GPA and possesses the other valuable qualities that a doctor must have, they have a good shot at getting in. Once they get in, however, they will have to live up to the even higher standards of an NYCPM graduate.

 

[Buspar]

I am currently a fourth year student at NYCPM and have been involved in the admissions process for many of the current students, having interviewed and given tours of NYCPM to many of them. I can tell you first hand that admission to NYCPM, and I'm sure to many of the other schools, is based on many factors. While test scores and GPAs have their importance in this process, a person's extra-curricular activities, enthusiasm for their future profession, and personality go a long way. Anyone with any significant clinical experience knows that if a patient does not trust you, they will not give you the history of their problem. So what good are all those grades that people put so much emphasis on if that is the only thing you rely on?

That being said, NYCPM's standards for admission are of the utmost quality, not only to ensure the stature of the school but also in efforts to help promote the future of podiatry. If your friend can explain her low GPA and possesses the other valuable qualities that a doctor must have, they have a good shot at getting in. Once they get in, however, they will have to live up to the even higher standards of an NYCPM graduate.

Good point👍

 

[JEWmongous]

I am currently a fourth year student at NYCPM and have been involved in the admissions process for many of the current students, having interviewed and given tours of NYCPM to many of them. I can tell you first hand that admission to NYCPM, and I'm sure to many of the other schools, is based on many factors. While test scores and GPAs have their importance in this process, a person's extra-curricular activities, enthusiasm for their future profession, and personality go a long way. Anyone with any significant clinical experience knows that if a patient does not trust you, they will not give you the history of their problem. So what good are all those grades that people put so much emphasis on if that is the only thing you rely on?

That being said, NYCPM's standards for admission are of the utmost quality, not only to ensure the stature of the school but also in efforts to help promote the future of podiatry. If your friend can explain her low GPA and possesses the other valuable qualities that a doctor must have, they have a good shot at getting in. Once they get in, however, they will have to live up to the even higher standards of an NYCPM graduate.

Do you honestly think NYCPM's admission standards are on par with those of DMU or AZPOD for example? I know you are proud of your school and that is a good thing. But after interviewing at all 8 places, I don't feel the admission standards at nycpm are of the utmost quality. The school STILL accepts the DAT and doesnt even look at the hardest section, the PAT. I was told this by a dean actually. If podiatry is moving move and move towards equality with MD and DO's, why the hell do some schools (not just NYCPM) accept a test for dentists? Futhermore, I have a few buddies at nycpm who were offered admission to the program and were told to score at least a 15 on the test. That is a terrible score, and 2 full points below the national average of anyone who just takes the DAT. Overall, I believe nycpm offers a good education, but I don't think the admission standards are very good or what they should be.

 

[msa786]

^^True, I've noticed that NYCPM does tend to have "lower" admission standards than the other pod schools but that doesn't mean its a bad school. They have great quality education and have been around for years making it one of the oldest pod schools. Like everyone has said over and over again in various threads, it depends on the person themselves and not the school as much. If you work hard, do well on boards and classes there should be no reason why you can't get a good residency placement.

Having good contacts never hurt as well.

 

[GoldenGustie]

SO I know we have all heard the phrase P = DPM (or MD or DO...), but does this mean that all graduates can live up to the same requirements for residency? I am not trying to point out any one school, but this is one of the main issues with the profession right now. Many, I would go as far as saying most, graduates leave school with the knowledge and know-how to do very well in residencies around the nation and then be very competent once in practice. However, I know for a fact that not everyone who is admitted will make it through to graduation (much less through the first semester or year). The fact is that attrition plays a much larger role in podiatry schools than it does in any MD or DO program. I don't necessarily agree that individuals who show promise based upon their personality should be granted admission with the idea that they "may" be able to do well once in school. The reality is that podiatry school is HARD! When talking with friends that go to other MD programs around the nation, they can't believe that we are required to take all the same classes that they do (or most of the same atleast). I just don't know whether or not giving admissions to individuals who don't show a level of competency before podiatry school will all be able to show a level of competency after podiatry school. I personally worry about those individuals who are, and I quote, "given a chance." Not just for their well-being and the fact that they will be spending 150K, but also that it may not turn out to be what they thought it would be if they are not able to do well. I also worry about the face of the profession b/c if we are turning out graduates that don't necessarily represent us as a whole, they tend to be the outcasts that give the profession a bad name...

I will end with saying this. Ultimately it is up to the schools to determine who is competent and who is not. I don't hold anything against any schools because they are all accredited for a reason. I do however think we should begin holding our selves and our profession to a higher level. This is only one of the ways in which we can see our education and level of respect sky rocket within the medical field.

I hope I did not offend anyone, for this is not what this message was meant to do. This was just about putting some ideas out their on the current state of our admissions.

 

[TheBee]

... With pod schools (or Carib MD schools), they are more tuition driven and will accept many borderline students... many of whom cannot handle the curriculum and will never make it to graduation.

Though I must say I have a friend who went to one of those Carribean MD schools, and he just scored in the 99th percentile overall on his boards part I. So there definitely is something to students going the extra mile...

 

[DRFootball]

The last time I checked, many schools had accepted the DAT but there was recently a vote done by the American Podiatric Medical Student Association to recommend only accepting MCAT scores. I know personally that NYCPM students voted to only accept MCAT scores for admissions purposes. The fact is that many schools accepted a variety of tests when considering admission because the profession wanted a larger applicant pool due to decreased numbers at one time. Not necessarily the case these days, as there are many applicants every year and class sizes are increasing in number.

As far as concerns for graduating competent doctors, whether you got in to school with a 4.0 and 30 on the MCAT or 3.0 and 15 on the DAT, you still have to get the grades and pass Boards Parts I, II, and III. If you do that, the NBPME says you are competent and you can then continue on to residency.

And as for your concerns about the student that is "given a chance". First of all, this is a rare occurrence, not the norm. And I was one of those students. I goofed off in college and didn't have the types of grades that are typical for medical students. Yet, I am set to graduate magna cum laude, # 3 in my class of 76, and have earned many awards/scholarships. I am glad someone gave me a chance and know that I will help this profession greatly as it moves forward. I don't consider myself amazing so if I can do well after being "given a chance", I'm sure others can as well.

 

[MaseratiGT]

Thanks for the sarcasm, but I have already been accepted to NYCPM for the September 2008 class. 👍

Right after I posted that, I saw your name on some other school thread. Congrats! 🙂👍

 

[MaseratiGT]

The last time I checked, many schools had accepted the DAT but there was recently a vote done by the American Podiatric Medical Student Association to recommend only accepting MCAT scores. I know personally that NYCPM students voted to only accept MCAT scores for admissions purposes. The fact is that many schools accepted a variety of tests when considering admission because the profession wanted a larger applicant pool due to decreased numbers at one time. Not necessarily the case these days, as there are many applicants every year and class sizes are increasing in number.

As far as concerns for graduating competent doctors, whether you got in to school with a 4.0 and 30 on the MCAT or 3.0 and 15 on the DAT, you still have to get the grades and pass Boards Parts I, II, and III. If you do that, the NBPME says you are competent and you can then continue on to residency.

And as for your concerns about the student that is "given a chance". First of all, this is a rare occurrence, not the norm. And I was one of those students. I goofed off in college and didn't have the types of grades that are typical for medical students. Yet, I am set to graduate magna cum laude, # 3 in my class of 76, and have earned many awards/scholarships. I am glad someone gave me a chance and know that I will help this profession greatly as it moves forward. I don't consider myself amazing so if I can do well after being "given a chance", I'm sure others can as well.

Although I do commend you for your accomplishments, I agree with Golden because I think you are not the exemplar of accepted pod students who performed poorly in their undergraduate studies. Schools should be demanding of their applicants because they are demanding of their students.

 

[DRFootball]

I completely agree that schools should be looking for the best students they can find. I am just saying that GPAs and MCAT scores are not the only factors in the admissions process. I don't think that admissions standards can be compared school by school. What works at NYCPM maybe wouldn't work at DMU or AZPOD and vice versa. But the type of students that get accepted to those schools don't have to work in a NYC clinic with a patient population as demanding as those in Manhattan, Harlem, and the Bronx. Every school has their standards based on the atmosphere they wish to have in their school and I believe based on the type of student doctors they need in their clinics to deal with those particular patient populations. I do believe though that the curriculums, competencies, and Boards create a level playing field where all graduates have the same skills and knowledge that will bring podiatry to the level of respect that it rightfully deserves. We may all enter on different levels but we should be leaving on the same one.

 

[msa786]

I was at NYCPM last week and one of the medical students there told me they accept 100 students each year for the Septemebr class. I was surprised at the high number. I guess that helps explain the lower admission standards.

 

[JEWmongous]

I was at NYCPM last week and one of the medical students there told me they accept 100 students each year for the Septemebr class. I was surprised at the high number. I guess that helps explain the lower admission standards.

Your logic is a little off pal. For one thing, NYCPM has a bigger class than most of the pod schools (Scholl and ohio also have large classes). In addition, new york accepts MORE than 100 students for the class. This is for obvious reasons, as not everyone accepted will actually matriculate to the school. This is not a new thing, as universities, med schools, etc do it.

 

[DRFootball]

Completely right Jewmongous. NYCPM has generally always had larger class sizes compared to other podiatric schools and not everyone will matriculate to the school. There are a few other reasons to explain this phenomenon as well. One reason is that the classrooms are equipped with enough seating to hold roughly 126 students comfortably. Also, the number of applicants to NYCPM, as well as other schools I am sure, are well over 500. Podiatry has gained a lot of interest over the years as it is finally being widely accepted as an integral part of the medical team for patient care and as a great career option. With so many qualified, motivated applicants and enough seats to hold over 100 students, why would a school not accept a large class?

Simple math.... HUNDREDS of applicants + Enough seating and resources = 100+ students accepted

Nowhere in the equation are lower admissions standards.

 

[2work]

DRFootball has it right.

Everyone should be given a "chance" to follow their dream. Passion will ALWAYS be a stronger driving force than brains any day. These "chances /people" are what keep the small amount of compassion in medicine now.

Who cares if they drop out? Does it affect your life?

You see we all come from different places and situations, but until people are all in the medical school environment there really is no fair playing field. That is why they have national boards and state medical licensing.

So anyone commenting on anyone else's GPA or MCAT is just opening their mouth wider for that big foot taste. These are the idiots who are dumb enough to think the MCAT matters, usually the mommy and daddy paid for everything types or the mine is bigger than yours group. They are the typical doctor of today that goes for the typical dream, I will have money, be respected, and everyone will think I am smart. Notice anything wrong with that.... Oh yea the patient!

I sometimes wonder how much better the medical field in this country would be if the doctors pay wasn't always plastered everywhere? Can you imagine if just 25% of the doctors were there because they first and foremost wanted to heal?

As a current cancer patient and Pre-Pod applicant I would choose a doctor with less brains and more heart any day of the week. In medicine brains come by the truck load, but heart and passion is worth it's weight in gold.

 

[Feli]

DRFootball has it right.

Everyone should be given a "chance" to follow their dream. Passion will ALWAYS be a stronger driving force than brains any day. These "chances /people" are what keep the small amount of compassion in medicine now.

Who cares if they drop out? Does it affect your life?

You see we all come from different places and situations, but until people are all in the medical school environment there really is no fair playing field. That is why they have national boards and state medical licensing.

So anyone commenting on anyone else's GPA or MCAT is just opening their mouth wider for that big foot taste. These are the idiots who are dumb enough to think the MCAT matters, usually the mommy and daddy paid for everything types or the mine is bigger than yours group. They are the typical doctor of today that goes for the typical dream, I will have money, be respected, and everyone will think I am smart. Notice anything wrong with that.... Oh yea the patient!

I sometimes wonder how much better the medical field in this country would be if the doctors pay wasn't always plastered everywhere? Can you imagine if just 25% of the doctors were there because they first and foremost wanted to heal?

As a current cancer patient and Pre-Pod applicant I would choose a doctor with less brains and more heart any day of the week. In medicine brains come by the truck load, but heart and passion is worth it's weight in gold.

Your thinking is noble, but it's just not really practical.

As you will see when you start school, the knowledge base is enormous. Pharm and micro are basically like memorizing a phone book, and courses like biochem or physio will really push you to understand the chain of microscopic processes. The curriculum takes at least a baseline abilities of memorization, conceptual thinking, and scientific know-how that a lot of people just do not have.

GPA is just a good way of knowing if a student was a hard worker in undergrad, and MCAT has been correlated again and again with success in med school. That's pretty much why it exists). I would bet that if you took the top 10 pod students out of any graduating class at any school, they're probably the at, or at least near, the ones who had the highest gpa/MCATs, especially MCAT, going in.

Being interested in what you're learning is important and helps you stay dedicated during the years of study, but talent is the bottom line. Accepting anyone who is interested would be a disaster. They'd end up flunking out with a lot of student loans, or maybe even worse, they'd barely pass their classes and then be unable to pass boards, do a residency, etc.

 

[Feli]

...Also, the number of applicants to NYCPM, as well as other schools I am sure, are well over 500...

This may or may not be true, but keep in mind that many students apply and gain acceptance to multiple schools. For the sake of argument, the 8 schools may get a total of over 3000 applications, but there are people applying to 3, 5, or even all of the programs. In the end, there might only be around 1000 applicants for ~700 seats.

Overall, there has been a nearly 1:1 app:accept ratio, and that needs to be improved. I think it will improve, but as it stands, students rejected at one pod school can just apply to another less selective pod school and probably be accepted assuming they have minimal qualifications. Will all students who start finish? Of course not, and that's what I alluded to above. Still, the selectivity on the front end is pretty low right now.

A school may have 300 applicants for 100 seats, but that does not mean a 3:1 app:accept ration. Suppose 275 of those apps are "accepted," but half of those might prefer and send their deposit to another program (DPM or other). Then, a few decide to delay or not go to pod school after all, and that brings you to a nearly 1:1 ratio.

 

[hyperpodia]

DRFootball has it right.


As a current cancer patient and Pre-Pod applicant I would choose a doctor with less brains and more heart any day of the week. In medicine brains come by the truck load, but heart and passion is worth it's weight in gold.

I want my doctor to have a brain🙄

 

[DRFootball]

After going through medical school, completing the National Board exams, and going through residency, all doctors have brains....not all have hearts or the ability to connect with patients. Anyone ever watch Patch Adams??? If not, I highly recommend it. That is a great example of what is being discussed here. I realize it is a movie, but after spending two years in clinics and hospitals, some of those scenarios are true.

 

[SugarNaCl]

After going through medical school, completing the National Board exams, and going through residency, all doctors have brains....not all have hearts or the ability to connect with patients. Anyone ever watch Patch Adams??? If not, I highly recommend it. That is a great example of what is being discussed here. I realize it is a movie, but after spending two years in clinics and hospitals, some of those scenarios are true.

Patch Adams is a movie... based on a real life MD. He went to VCU (MCV at the time)...not Robin Williams, the real Dr. Adams! 😉

 

[biocmp]

I'm not sure if it is insecurity or just true curiosity, but it seems people constantly have the need to belittle. MDs are better than DOs, MDs/DOs are better than DDS/DMDs, Ivy Leagues are better than state schools. Everyone wants to take pride in their alma mater without a jab at the quality of the institution.

Only competent individuals should be able to pass the rigors of the education in podiatry. If the national view of podiatry isn't strong enough to pull higher level applicants right now, then there should be no shame in accepting students based on other merits. Schools require money. To get the money, you need to fill the seats. Podiatry is what the community of practicioners make of it.

People pursue good income, good lifestyle and respect when looking at jobs. If current students did less bickering about whose academic program was better, and did more about increasing the perception of podiatry, then over time I suspect we would see a gradual increase in the quality and quantity of applicants.

 

[SportPOD]

I'm not sure if it is insecurity or just true curiosity, but it seems people constantly have the need to belittle. MDs are better than DOs, MDs/DOs are better than DDS/DMDs, Ivy Leagues are better than state schools. Everyone wants to take pride in their alma mater without a jab at the quality of the institution.

Only competent individuals should be able to pass the rigors of the education in podiatry. If the national view of podiatry isn't strong enough to pull higher level applicants right now, then there should be no shame in accepting students based on other merits. Schools require money. To get the money, you need to fill the seats. Podiatry is what the community of practicioners make of it.

People pursue good income, good lifestyle and respect when looking at jobs. If current students did less bickering about whose academic program was better, and did more about increasing the perception of podiatry, then over time I suspect we would see a gradual increase in the quality and quantity of applicants.

Well said.👍

 

[Poder8ter]

I tend to agree with biocomp and DRFootball on this issue. When talking with two very close family friends both M.D.'s (one an otrho surgeoun and one a plastic surgeon) they have commented on that very problem in medicine. To many people see an M.D. degree as such a highly respected thing in life that they must have it and will do whatever it takes to get it. Once obtained however they don't know how to deal with what comes next. As a DPM I believe that you have less of that in the field and that is what we need to focus on.

Quit bickering about application processes ecspecially because there is no point in doing so.

I was the applicant that scored a 21 on the MCAT with a 3.0 GPA which is hardly good enough to get me into all podiatry schools. Every semester I was in undergrad I had a 40 hour a week job that required much of my time and energy. So how much time did I really have to get great grades? You could say well that is your own fault for working that much but really if a company wants to throw money at you for doing a good job how many of us would have declined that offer.

ON the other hand Joe Blow didn't work a day in his life and had a 3.8 with a 31 on the MCAT. Does that mean he is more intelligent than me, or that he works harder than me, or does it mean that he had more time to study and attention to give to his grades.

It is hardly an equal playing field in undergrad but when you get into podiatry school there are no excuses. Everyone has more or less equal time to study and put into their coursework.

My point is simple success is never final and failure is never fatal.

 

[Gryhu]

Going a little off topic for a little. What do you guys do for money in Pod school? I know there's a crap load of work, but do you still even have time for a part time job?

 

[jpevball]

Loans

 

[krabmas]

Going a little off topic for a little. What do you guys do for money in Pod school? I know there's a crap load of work, but do you still even have time for a part time job?

I worked for a semester at Starbucks.

Some people sell things on Ebay

Tutor other students

Work study - library...

pan handle?

 

[jonwill]

I worked for a semester at Starbucks.

Some people sell things on Ebay

Tutor other students

Work study - library...

pan handle?

I worked for Iowa Donor Network as a donor recovery tech my 2nd and 3rd year. We went around the state and harvested bones, soft tissue, and organs when someone passed away and was a donor. I took 3-4 calls a month and each trip payed 300-400 bucks. It was great for operating room etiquette, anatomy, and a little extra cash.

 

[iceman69]

How does one get a job with the Donor network?

 

[Gryhu]

Yeah that sounds pretty awesome, whom would I have to talk to in order to get that job?

 

[jonwill]

How does one get a job with the Donor network?

You apply. They want people with a strong science/anatomy background so med students are perfect. You also have to have a strong stomach

 

[Feli]

I was an RA during 2nd and 3rd year... some lost sleep and study time from many overnights on duty, but it was a good leadership job with free housing + food... and saved a lot on gas by living on campus.

Having a job is not for every pod student; it will cut into your study time. Pod curriculum is very tough, so definitely see how you do for a couple semesters. Professors, clinics, etc may tend to assume that all students do nothing but school. Test/lecture/lab/clinic/etc time/date changes will really give you a scheduling conflict or headache sometimes. I liked my job in 2nd year (all classes), but I wish I would not advise having a job in 3rd year (clinics) and would advise against it. The hours during clinical rotations are just too variable, and the amount of self-directed reading you will probably want to do in the evenings for clinic and/or upcoming clerkships takes a lot of effort.

 

[jonwill]

I was an RA during 2nd and 3rd year... some lost sleep and study time from many overnights on duty, but it was a good leadership job with free housing + food... and saved a lot on gas by living on campus.

Having a job is not for every pod student; it will cut into your study time. Pod curriculum is very tough, so definitely see how you do for a couple semesters. Professors, clinics, etc may tend to assume that all students do nothing but school. Test/lecture/lab/clinic/etc time/date changes will really give you a scheduling conflict or headache sometimes. I liked my job in 2nd year (all classes), but I wish I would not advise having a job in 3rd year (clinics) and would advise against it. The hours during clinical rotations are just too variable, and the amount of self-directed reading you will probably want to do in the evenings for clinic and/or upcoming clerkships takes a lot of effort.

Yes, I would advise starting school and seeing how you do. If after a little while, you think you have some extra time, go for it. I think many will find that their time is mostly occupied with studying.

 

[msa786]

I'm sorry guys but I believe we're going off topic here

 

[Dr 14220]

are podiatrists actually considered physicians?? this is an honest question and is in no way meant to seem condescending.

i was just under the impression that the title of physician is only used for those with an MD or DO degree????

 

[Gryhu]

are podiatrists actually considered physicians?? this is an honest question and is in no way meant to seem condescending.

i was just under the impression that the title of physician is only used for those with an MD or DO degree????

According to wikipedia,

A physician, medical practitioner or medical doctor is a person who practices medicine and is concerned with maintaining or restoring human health through the study, diagnosis, and treatment of disease and injury.

Podiatrists fill that criteria but are rarely referred to as physicians. Podiatry also has a major surgical branch, so podiatrists could also be referred to as surgeons. What you are called, I guess, depends on whether you do more routine office procedures or more surgery. Its the best of both worlds. 😎

Any Pod students/residents/attending want to chime in?

 

[nkhan00]

She is also planning on doing the summer pre-matriculation course that NYCPM offers.

Do you have more information about the summer pre-matriculation course that NYCPM offers??

 

[TheBee]

According to wikipedia,


Podiatrists fill that criteria but are rarely referred to as physicians. Podiatry also has a major surgical branch, so podiatrists could also be referred to as surgeons. What you are called, I guess, depends on whether you do more routine office procedures or more surgery. Its the best of both worlds. 😎

Any Pod students/residents/attending want to chime in?

I've frequently heard podiatrists referred to as practitioners, but not usually physicians.

 

[OSUDDS]

I've frequently heard podiatrists referred to as practitioners, but not usually physicians.

it just depends what state your in, its different everywhere

 

[Dr 14220]

yea i never thought pods were considered physicians either, but then i saw jon will's signature which says "resident physician-podiatric surgery".

......so i guess pods are considered physicians. cool.