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Dr. Spartan

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I wonder what happens if someone does not do the ITE. Does anyone knows what happens if someone just don’t show up?
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There are usually a couple days scheduled..... I am sure you will at least get a talk to, and probably on the hit list for your program, until the end. Probably kiss your recommendation goodbye. But if you’re a ca3, and don’t give a ****.... you probably will be “okay”.
 
Weren’t you the guy that raved how half of your program including you got top 10% on basic? Why the cold feet for ITE? You will be just fine.

Not showing up to ITE without a valid excuse would look extremely unprofessional at least at my program and there will be consequences. Our program is flexible with the dates, so if residents can’t take it on either Friday or Saturday, they are offered a few more dates, so there really is 0 excuse not to take it.

Most fellowship programs don’t care about CA-2 ITE, but if they ask and you didn’t take it, it would look very fishy.
 
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JiPo said:
Weren’t you the guy that raved how half of your program including you got top 10% on basic? Why the cold feet for ITE? You will be just fine.

Not showing up to ITE without a valid excuse would look extremely unprofessional at least at my program and there will be consequences. Our program is flexible with the dates, so if residents can’t take it on either Friday or Saturday, they are offered a few more dates, so there really is 0 excuse not to take it.

Most fellowship programs don’t care about CA-2 ITE, but if they ask and you didn’t take it, it would look very fishy.
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LMAO
 
Dr. Spartan said:
I wonder what happens if someone does not do the ITE. Does anyone knows what happens if someone just don’t show up?
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Lol it’s like 2-4 hours of your life.

I’m also not looking forward to it, with fellowship interview season and being fortunate enough with my CA-1 performance, I’ll admit I haven’t been firing on all cylinders for this exam.

But we always need opportunities to push ourselves. It can be easy to get complacent. For me anyway.
 
My program would lose it's mind.

I did poorly on ITE last year and it was a giant pain in the ass. I did well on basic. I have since gotten a divorce, had other family issues that strongly (and very quietly) pulled me away from study time, so I'm expecting to do equally as bad. I know I'll be find on advanced and other boards, but I'm more anxious about the flack I'll get from my program leadership. By far the smartest attending at my place is a young guy about 4 years out of residency. He never broke 10th percentile on ITE.
 
Regardless of what your program would do, it’s just not worth doing something so unprofessional. You’ve worked your butt off to get to this stage and to even risk it by not showing up to the ITE without a very legitimate excuse (family member dying, you’re in the ER, etc) is not worth it.
 
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My program would lose it's mind.

I did poorly on ITE last year and it was a giant pain in the ass. I did well on basic. I have since gotten a divorce, had other family issues that strongly (and very quietly) pulled me away from study time, so I'm expecting to do equally as bad. I know I'll be find on advanced and other boards, but I'm more anxious about the flack I'll get from my program leadership. By far the smartest attending at my place is a young guy about 4 years out of residency. He never broke 10th percentile on ITE.
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No offense, but as someone who did poorly on the ITEs, you might not be the best person to judge the smartness of your attendings. He may be the slickest or the most reasonable with regards to decision-making, but I'd be surprised if the smartest person at your program never broke 10th% on the ITE.

I agree that the ITE is not a good indicator of who makes a good attending, and I would say that the smartest attendings I've known are not the best in-room anesthesiologists, but the ITE is a reasonable barometer of how book-smart someone is. If the smartest attending at your program never broke 10%, you may need a new program.
 
No offense, but as someone who did poorly on the ITEs, you might not be the best person to judge the smartness of your attendings.

-A pretty hilarious and useless statement. Some of my co-residents and basically all of my attendings agree, and they scored a few points higher on ITE so that probably holds more water with you.
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If the smartest attending at your program never broke 10%, you may need a new program.
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He broke top 10% on Basic. And while I didn't, I wasn't far off.

There are quite a few reasons why ITE goes well or not well. And unless you're at the extremes it provides exactly zero predictive value on your performance on boards.
 
WholeLottaGame7 said:
No offense, but as someone who did poorly on the ITEs, you might not be the best person to judge the smartness of your attendings. He may be the slickest or the most reasonable with regards to decision-making, but I'd be surprised if the smartest person at your program never broke 10th% on the ITE.

I agree that the ITE is not a good indicator of who makes a good attending, and I would say that the smartest attendings I've known are not the best in-room anesthesiologists, but the ITE is a reasonable barometer of how book-smart someone is. If the smartest attending at your program never broke 10%, you may need a new program.
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I will say this. You have to put WORK in to be good. The attending who never broke 10% probably put work in for the boards. You cannot get this done by not prioritizing your training. I know attending physicians with multiple board failures who are excellent physicians. Take your test sometimes just sometimes the test asks the questions you know.
 
Mehd School said:
No offense, but as someone who did poorly on the ITEs, you might not be the best person to judge the smartness of your attendings.

-A pretty hilarious and useless statement. Some of my co-residents and basically all of my attendings agree, and they scored a few points higher on ITE so that probably holds more water with you.


He broke top 10% on Basic. And while I didn't, I wasn't far off.

There are quite a few reasons why ITE goes well or not well. And unless you're at the extremes it provides exactly zero predictive value on your performance on boards.
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You’re talking to the wrong crowd here, most of us here believe the ITE is probably useless long term, but most of did well on our ITEs as well. I’m a new attending, who did okay on my ITEs (only scored 40 on my CA1 ITE), but I don’t consider myself a genius or a great attending, just reasonably adequate.

And not sure what you mean about predictive value, but the data suggest that those with lower scores do have a increased chance of not passing boards. 10-15% failure rate is nothing to scoff at.
 
chocomorsel said:
Race and sex please? Not trying to be funny but
no way could I pull this off.
This is the type of behavior that is typically White boy privilege. Sometimes White girl.
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Not going down that rabbit hole. Closing.
 
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