J&J on the move, new Antibiotic approved

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SpirivaSunrise said:
Yeah...but they can't see you...that's the beauty of a conference call
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Oh..not the guys that'll be on this conference call..these are our people..aint no stupid people on our team..
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
You wouldn't happen to be one of those people that rolls their eyes and mocks the other people while their talking would you? 🙄
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Doesn't everyone do this??? Don't forget the beauty of the mute button!! (Although my boss said once, "these meetings are a colossal waste of my time." and didn't have himself muted... Oops!) :laugh:
 
Epic said:
YES! He called me the clinical god!!!! oh ..she.
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You had better count your lucky stars. My pathophys professor has made my existence in pharmacy school a little easier. He keeps cracking jokes that are actually entertaining, unlike some people :meanie:.

I gotta head back to class.
 
PharmDstudent said:
You had better count your lucky stars. My pathophys professor has made my existence in pharmacy school a little easier. He keeps cracking jokes that are actually entertaining, unlike so people :meanie:.

I gotta head back to class.
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I really am entertaining... my 2 year old boy seems to think so..
 
CaliCPhT said:
Doesn't everyone do this??? Don't forget the beauty of the mute button!! (Although my boss said once, "these meetings are a colossal waste of my time." and didn't have himself muted... Oops!) :laugh:
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Your boss is somebody I would roll my eyes at..
 
CaliCPhT said:
🙄 LOL!!! So do I, almost daily! But, he's great. He tries to be funny, and sometimes he even succeeds. He tells funny stories, so I think that's why we get along, mostly.
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hmmm.... hey..do you work for me by any chance??
 
CaliCPhT said:
Because I'm a great employee, that's why! 😀
Maybe one day you can work for me! 😉
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Me being your employee would be your worst nightmare. I cause trouble.
 
So did that press release say you can use this as a SINGLE agent for Pseudomonas? I could see that as a big advantage.
 
Trancelucent1 said:
So did that press release say you can use this as a SINGLE agent for Pseudomonas? I could see that as a big advantage.
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conventional wisdom says dual coverage is desired for pseudomonas..but there are conflicting studies.. not for Doripenem..but generally speaking.

I can't imagine how Dori would be much different than Mero or Imi as far as pseudomona coverage goes. It really depends on your local sensitivity...
 
Epic said:
conventional wisdom says dual coverage is desired for pseudomonas..but there are conflicting studies.. not for Doripenem..but generally speaking.

I can't imagine how Dori would be much different than Mero or Imi as far as pseudomona coverage goes. It really depends on your local sensitivity...
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So really what's the advantage? It's basically just a new drug that'll be overused until resistance emerges.
 
Trancelucent1 said:
So really what's the advantage? It's basically just a new drug that'll be overused until resistance emerges.
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why would it be overused if it's not on the formulary..
 
Epic said:
why would it be overused if it's not on the formulary..
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Haha I guess that's the key and you'll be keeping it off. Well if it's no different than the others then it really wouldn't need to be added. Either way it's another drug in the arsenal...can't really hurt for it to be waiting in the wings while the others are being used.
 
Trancelucent1 said:
So did that press release say you can use this as a SINGLE agent for Pseudomonas? I could see that as a big advantage.
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Who is using a carbapenem as empiric therapy against Pseudomonas?
 
Trancelucent1 said:
Haha I guess that's the key and you'll be keeping it off. Well if it's no different than the others then it really wouldn't need to be added. Either way it's another drug in the arsenal...can't really hurt for it to be waiting in the wings while the others are being used.
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But would you think Johnson & Johnson: Ortho McNeil investing hundreds of million dollars to just let the drug sit in the arsenal waiting to be used? The miniskirts will get shorter, heels will get taller, reps will get younger and lunches will get tastier.. and the drug will get promoted like there is no tomorrow. And the cost of healthcare at our expense will again rise.
 
Priapism321 said:
Who is using a carbapenem as empiric therapy against Pseudomonas?
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Did you not read Dec 21 issue of NEJM Cefotetan vs Ertapenem in colorectal surgery prophylaxis? Not pseudomonas related...more B-fragilis.. but Merck reps are out in full force pushing it for CRS prophylaxis...imagine..carbapenem for surgical prophylaxis. Stop the madness.
 
Priapism321 said:
Who is using a carbapenem as empiric therapy against Pseudomonas?
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Well...CAP Guideline does promote empiric use of Carbapenem in the healthcare related CAP ie Nursing home pts..... don't they?
 
Epic said:
Well...CAP Guideline does promote empiric use of Carbapenem in the healthcare related CAP ie Nursing home pts..... don't they?
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Guidelines recommend a lot of things as viable options I suppose; which is why everyone in my class during third year had our pretend VAP patient on meropenem, gentamicin and linezolid.
 
Epic said:
But would you think Johnson & Johnson: Ortho McNeil investing hundreds of million dollars to just let the drug sit in the arsenal waiting to be used? The miniskirts will get shorter, heels will get taller, reps will get younger and lunches will get tastier.. and the drug will get promoted like there is no tomorrow. And the cost of healthcare at our expense will again rise.
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Exactly...so, until then, keep it off. Wear a blind-fold when the girls walk in, and keep your mouth shut when the filet mignon passes by. We'll see if the pseudomonas superiority claims are true clinically...if the MIC #'s are right, it'll be nice for hospital's dealing with resistance issues.
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
Exactly...so, until then, keep it off. Wear a blind-fold when the girls walk in, and keep your mouth shut when the filet mignon passes by. We'll see if the pseudomonas superiority claims are true clinically...if the MIC #'s are right, it'll be nice for hospital's dealing with resistance issues.
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Hospitals that are currently having resistance issues with carbapenems are going to need more than doripenem..
 
Priapism321 said:
Guidelines recommend a lot of things as viable options I suppose; which is why everyone in my class during third year had our pretend VAP patient on meropenem, gentamicin and linezolid.
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Well, both CAP and HAP guidelines have penems on the list... it will depend on each hospital to choose the right agent to put on the list.
 
Epic said:
Well, both CAP and HAP guidelines have penems on the list... it will depend on each hospital to choose the right agent to put on the list.
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Ummmmm, OK...
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
Exactly...so, until then, keep it off. Wear a blind-fold when the girls walk in, and keep your mouth shut when the filet mignon passes by. We'll see if the pseudomonas superiority claims are true clinically...if the MIC #'s are right, it'll be nice for hospital's dealing with resistance issues.
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Pseudomonas aren't as big of a concern ....

We're concerned with resistant Acinetobacters, Kleb Pneumo..with ESBL..

I'm not big on filet..
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
Yeah...but they're going to push the pseudomonas angle...that's where the big bucks are.

I hear you're not a big fan of legs either 🙄
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who sez?
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
Would have to be at Daniel Bouloud's Brasserie at the Wynn...only place I've got connections. And may I recommend the Côte de Boeuf for two...c'est magnifique.
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You going?
 
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