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[LADoc00]

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someone emailed me about what this was, here is the 411:
The Johns Hopkins Atlas of Surgical Pathology
Edited by Jonathan I. Epstein and Fred Sanfilippo
Copyright 1999
$1,719.00, CD-ROM
Availability: Please call 1-800-545-2522 for availability
FREE shipping for individuals.
Bibliographic & ordering Information
CD-ROM, ISBN: 0-443-06510-1, publication date:

Notice the price, good luck..
Oh and by the way, I eventually got the Osler MP3s, which was the whole reason I even started posting here to begin with...

 

[AngryTesticle]

Holy crap. That's even more than my whole book fund!!! 😱

 

[yaah]

You almost half expect to get that in the mail, put the CD in, and just hear continuous laughter for 5 hours.

 

[Aubrey]

Interlibrary loan is your friend.
Can you dig it? 😎

 

[AngryTesticle]

Oh look mommy and daddy...it's free shipping! Yip-dee-frickin'-dah! 🙄

 

[beary]

Oh look mommy and daddy...it's free shipping! Yip-dee-frickin'-dah! 🙄

I thought that was hilarious too. 1719 for a CD that probably costs less than a buck to ship.

 

[Supersheep]

Holy crap. That's even more than my whole book fund!!! 😱

I was actually kind of wondering about that... does this mean then that your book fund is $350/yr? Just curious 🙂

And actually, if you had an apartment in Detroit you could make that this weekend- one of my friends is "subletting" her apt for the SuperBowl for almost $2000! I should have lived in Detroit... wait... no 😉

 

[AngryTesticle]

I was actually kind of wondering about that... does this mean then that your book fund is $350/yr? Just curious 🙂

The book fund for the whole residency is $1500. You can spend it all at once. But let's say you don't spend any of it for the first few years but then decided to buy a big load of books, you will have $1500 at your disposal. The money is not divided on a per year basis.

Hope that answers your question.

 

[Supersheep]

The book fund for the whole residency is $1500. You can spend it all at once. But let's say you don't spend any of it for the first few years but then decided to buy a big load of books, you will have $1500 at your disposal. The money is not divided on a per year basis.

Hope that answers your question.

Thanks, that makes much more sense... it's not a major point or anything, I was just wondering. I was looking at Dr Crum and Lee's book and it got me thinking 🙂

 

[Gross/Micro]

The book fund for the whole residency is $1500. You can spend it all at once. But let's say you don't spend any of it for the first few years but then decided to buy a big load of books, you will have $1500 at your disposal. The money is not divided on a per year basis.

Hope that answers your question.

At BWH, you can also get "bonus money" depending on what rotations you do after your second year.

If you are Chief Resident (3 month rotation) or the Senior Resident in Surgical Pathology (SRSP, 3 month rotation with a silly name), you get an extra $1500 in your book fund plus an extra $1000 bucks in your paycheck.

Not bad. Plus the department covers your travel expenses (up to $1500) if you are presenting at a meeting.

 

[AngryTesticle]

What the...? Who is this guy?

 

[LADoc00]

The book fund for the whole residency is $1500. You can spend it all at once. But let's say you don't spend any of it for the first few years but then decided to buy a big load of books, you will have $1500 at your disposal. The money is not divided on a per year basis.

Hope that answers your question.

What ghetto residency program has only $1500 for all FOUR years of training?? That is like maybe 2 books/yr if you never went to a conference or bought a computer. Shame. Shame. Path training is such a scam too.

 

[Pathmonster]

^$1,000 per year should be the minimum.

 

[Pathmonster]

The book fund for the whole residency is $1500. You can spend it all at once. But let's say you don't spend any of it for the first few years but then decided to buy a big load of books, you will have $1500 at your disposal. The money is not divided on a per year basis.

Hope that answers your question.

Don't try to put a good spin on that ("if you don't buy anything for years, you have 1500!")

A well funded harvard program should be giving you 1000 a year, like all the decent programs

 

[yaah]

Hmmm....$1000 a year I don't think is that common - $500 a year is more likely I think. I may be wrong. Here we get a bunch of books and a laptop first year (probably total worth like $600-700, then $500 a year for books. Travel expenses are always paid if we present, and they will fund one extra one if you are just going out of interest.

 

[AngryTesticle]

A well funded harvard program should be giving you 1000 a year, like all the decent programs

That is principle. Unfortunately there is this thing called reality. The one thing I've definitely picked up on is the whole Harvard elitism thing.

The implicit attitude of "You should be privileged to be at Harvard. You're gonna be happy with what we give you!" is quite pervasive. "Bite me...I guess I won't be buying/reading too many books then" is my usual response.

I agree that the $1500 book fund for the whole residency is pretty meager. But Harvard can be a pretty cheap place.

 

[QuietSylph]

Don't try to put a good spin on that ("if you don't buy anything for years, you have 1500!")

A well funded harvard program should be giving you 1000 a year, like all the decent programs

At University of New Mexico, we get $1200/year, which is great since path books seem to be an average of $300 each. We can use it for other educational purposes, like a laptop or PDA or taking Step 3.

Our book fund is at the high end of the spectrum though, nationwide. I only encountered a couple others that were as high - Ohio State was one. A lot of them were closer to $500-700/year.

 

[yaah]

That is principle. Unfortunately there is this thing called reality. The one thing I've definitely picked up on is the whole Harvard elitism thing.

The implicit attitude of "You should be privileged to be at Harvard. You're gonna be happy with what we give you!" is quite pervasive. "Bite me...I guess I won't be buying/reading too many books then" is my usual response.

I agree that the $1500 book fund for the whole residency is pretty meager. But Harvard can be a pretty cheap place.

My Dad started surgical residency at BWH (then called Peter Bent Brigham) in the late 60s, and one of the interns had the "audacity" to complain that they were being forced to work well over a hundred hours per week with very little pay or benefits. The chief of surgery then called them all together and proceeded to yell at them and tell them they should all be paying him for the privilege of being there. Part of the reason he left his residency after a couple of years and went into ER.

 

[AngryTesticle]

My Dad started surgical residency at BWH (then called Peter Bent Brigham) in the late 60s, and one of the interns had the "audacity" to complain that they were being forced to work well over a hundred hours per week with very little pay or benefits. The chief of surgery then called them all together and proceeded to yell at them and tell them they should all be paying him for the privilege of being there. Part of the reason he left his residency after a couple of years and went into ER.

Yeah, this mentality is just plain sick. I refuse to buy into this bullsh*t.

 

[Gut Shot]

someone emailed me about what this was, here is the 411:
The Johns Hopkins Atlas of Surgical Pathology
Edited by Jonathan I. Epstein and Fred Sanfilippo
Copyright 1999
$1,719.00, CD-ROM
Availability: Please call 1-800-545-2522 for availability
FREE shipping for individuals.
Bibliographic & ordering Information
CD-ROM, ISBN: 0-443-06510-1, publication date:

Notice the price, good luck..
Oh and by the way, I eventually got the Osler MP3s, which was the whole reason I even started posting here to begin with...

Just got my hands on this bad boy via interlibrary loan from the National Library of Medicine. It's pretty cool.

 

[tsj]

That is principle. Unfortunately there is this thing called reality. The one thing I've definitely picked up on is the whole Harvard elitism thing.

The implicit attitude of "You should be privileged to be at Harvard. You're gonna be happy with what we give you!" is quite pervasive. "Bite me...I guess I won't be buying/reading too many books then" is my usual response.

I agree that the $1500 book fund for the whole residency is pretty meager. But Harvard can be a pretty cheap place.

Like LA DOC said, at harvard, junior attendings get paid pocket lint, a used condom and a healthy serving of "Shut the **** Up Bitch".