job market path

[ojojoj]

Hi,

I am a Swedish med student and I am considering doing residency in America.

However, in Iserson´s "How to get into a residency" I read that there is a surplus of pathologist in the US, is that true? Are there people who do not find a job after residency?

The surplus was a shock to me since there is a huge deficit of pathologists in Scandinavia.

 

[LADoc00]

Hi,

I am a Swedish med student and I am considering doing residency in America.

However, in Iserson´s "How to get into a residency" I read that there is a surplus of pathologist in the US, is that true? Are there people who do not find a job after residency?

The surplus was a shock to me since there is a huge deficit of pathologists in Scandinavia.

yeah. Basically the leaders of Pathology have miserably failed us. Long story but involves one of corruption, greed and complete lack of common sense.

Although I would rather push a taco cart off Wilshire Blvd. in LA than be a doctor in Scandinavia. More akin to mining DeBeers diamonds in South Africa for a paultry government wage.

But you have some giant 6 foot+ hot chicks there, Ive dated a few. F'ing huge white blond women. That is probably cold comfort tho.

Yeah, socialism sucks balls.

 

[Arctic Char]

yeah. Basically the leaders of Pathology have miserably failed us. Long story but involves one of corruption, greed and complete lack of common sense.

Although I would rather push a taco cart off Wilshire Blvd. in LA than be a doctor in Scandinavia. More akin to mining DeBeers diamonds in South Africa for a paultry government wage.

But you have some giant 6 foot+ hot chicks there, Ive dated a few. F'ing huge white blond women. That is probably cold comfort tho.

Yeah, socialism sucks balls.

socialism may suck balls, but natural bleach blondes - in my honest opinion - more than makes up for it.

path job in Scandinavia? where do i sign?

anyone ever hear of Jens Jensen's Herring? spelled with a "J", pronounced with a "Y" . . . why? because it yust is, thats why😉

 

[ojojoj]

OK guys, in other words it´s true. I guess it´s either staying in Sweden and do path or move to the US and do another specialty.

Well, there are beautiful blonds in America too, I´ve actually been dating a few of them.🙂 So, that´s no reason moving here.

Will not even comment on whether we have socialism or not here in Scandinavia... 😡 But sure, there are things that are better in America, that´s why I´d like to move there! Too bad the job market in path is so bad though. Path in America, that would have been great.

 

[Arctic Char]

OK guys, in other words it´s true. I guess it´s either staying in Sweden and do path or move to the US and do another specialty.

Well, there are beautiful blonds in America too, I´ve actually been dating a few of them.🙂 So, that´s no reason moving here.

Will not even comment on whether we have socialism or not here in Scandinavia... 😡 But sure, there are things that are better in America, that´s why I´d like to move there! Too bad the job market in path is so bad though. Path in America, that would have been great.

jeez man, you give up pretty easily. If you will it, it is no dream - theodore hertzl

 

[ZZPath]

Good jobs are very scarce. Good jobs in desirable locations are very very scarce. Good looking desirable blonde women in places where there are occasional good pathology jobs are nonexistent. Bad jobs are a dime a dozen.

 

[exPCM]

Hi,

I am a Swedish med student and I am considering doing residency in America.

However, in Iserson´s "How to get into a residency" I read that there is a surplus of pathologist in the US, is that true? Are there people who do not find a job after residency?

The surplus was a shock to me since there is a huge deficit of pathologists in Scandinavia.

Based on discussions with colleagues I feel confident in saying the pathology job market stinks. There are too many pathologists being trained for the available jobs. I beleve that the ASCP job market survey results which are to be released in July will confirm the deteriorating job prospects. IMHO doing 2 or 3 fellowships does not guarantee a position.
See end of link re: job market survey
http://www.ascp.org/MainMenu/residents/FellowshipApplicationProcessTimeforChange.aspx

 

[exPCM]

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[Marsupilami]

Hi,

I am a Swedish med student and I am considering doing residency in America.

However, in Iserson´s "How to get into a residency" I read that there is a surplus of pathologist in the US, is that true? Are there people who do not find a job after residency?

The surplus was a shock to me since there is a huge deficit of pathologists in Scandinavia.

Hej Jojo,

have you looked at the possibility of doing your path residency in Canada ? There is a great demand of pathologists in Canada. I have been in contact with a German pathology resident who secured a residency spot in Canada after doing research there...he already had some experience in the field prior
to transfering to Canada. This is a very unusual thing for Canada since it is usually impossible for IMGs to enter the market. But in Path it is supposed to be different due to the great demand. The education according to him is great, salary after residency is excellent.

 

[Marsupilami]

socialism may suck balls, but natural bleach blondes - in my honest opinion - more than makes up for it.

path job in Scandinavia? where do i sign?

anyone ever hear of Jens Jensen's Herring? spelled with a "J", pronounced with a "Y" . . . why? because it yust is, thats why😉

A lot of Scandinavian women are $hit hot 😱 but life in these countries isn't that great.

 

[yaah]

IMHO doing 2 or 3 fellowships does not guarantee a position.

I would assume not. The problem a lot of people have is that they think fellowship(s) can make up for their glaring deficiencies in other areas (communication, responsibility, ethical behavior, collegiality, competence). They cannot. Some fellowships can make a difference if you are otherwise marginal and wherever you are looking needs that type of person. But I would wager that most private practice places are going to use "what fellowship you did" as something of a secondary consideration in whether to hire you.

Succeeding in pathology in this country as an FMG is an uphill climb. Many people do it and are very successful. A lot of it depends on your communication skills, it seems. If you are willing to put in the time and effort and you have a good background, you will probably be successful, but there may be some tradeoffs in terms of where you will live or what kind of job you will specifically do.

As far as life in scandinavia being "not that great," scandinavian countries are consistently the highest on the indexes of which countries are happiest. A lot of it comes from contentment and safety nets, though. In Denmark, for example, I think you are basically guaranteed multiple years of free college as well as health care and all that. It's hard to become truly successful though like in true capitalist countries. But for many, the tradeoff is worth it. Having been to all the scandinavian countries except Norway, they were gorgeous as well as close to an ideal climate.

 

[LADoc00]

I would assume not. The problem a lot of people have is that they think fellowship(s) can make up for their glaring deficiencies in other areas (communication, responsibility, ethical behavior, collegiality, competence). They cannot. Some fellowships can make a difference if you are otherwise marginal and wherever you are looking needs that type of person. But I would wager that most private practice places are going to use "what fellowship you did" as something of a secondary consideration in whether to hire you.

Succeeding in pathology in this country as an FMG is an uphill climb. Many people do it and are very successful. A lot of it depends on your communication skills, it seems. If you are willing to put in the time and effort and you have a good background, you will probably be successful, but there may be some tradeoffs in terms of where you will live or what kind of job you will specifically do.

As far as life in scandinavia being "not that great," scandinavian countries are consistently the highest on the indexes of which countries are happiest. A lot of it comes from contentment and safety nets, though. In Denmark, for example, I think you are basically guaranteed multiple years of free college as well as health care and all that. It's hard to become truly successful though like in true capitalist countries. But for many, the tradeoff is worth it. Having been to all the scandinavian countries except Norway, they were gorgeous as well as close to an ideal climate.

Norway ranks ahead of the US, India and Armenia in terms of suicides per capita, so someone is not telling the truth. Unless you think suicide and happiness are completely unconnected concepts...

 

[yaah]

Norway ranks ahead of the US, India and Armenia in terms of suicides per capita, so someone is not telling the truth. Unless you think suicide and happiness are completely unconnected concepts...

Lack of suicide is but one measure of happiness. For the same reason that US incomes are high relative to a lot of the world, but happiness is not. Like I said, a lot of the "happiness" may merely reflect lack of worrying about certain things.

 

[mcfaddens]

Lack of suicide is but one measure of happiness. For the same reason that US incomes are high relative to a lot of the world, but happiness is not. Like I said, a lot of the "happiness" may merely reflect lack of worrying about certain things.

I saw the 60 minutes episode last night too, the whole thing comes down to personal and curtural beliefs. the money, success ect is secondary to that

 

[LADoc00]

Lack of suicide is but one measure of happiness. For the same reason that US incomes are high relative to a lot of the world, but happiness is not. Like I said, a lot of the "happiness" may merely reflect lack of worrying about certain things.

Or..in developed socialist hive-mind countries, when asked on a poll whether you are happy, you automatically say yes, then proceed to leap off a cliff into icy waters.

Explanation revealed!!!

I should get a Nobel prize or somethin. No seriously.

Most of the people in Northern Europe are like those cultist followers of James Earl Jones snake god character in the original Conan the Barbarian.

 

[skinknee]

What if you're not an FMG? You're a US grad but you didn't go to an amazing program (eg MGH, Columbia, UCSF, etc...). How bad is the path job market in the North-east (PA, NJ, NY, CT, DE)?